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backfire
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lancaster, PA
Joined: 08.07.2018

Jul 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
Did Tampa watch any Flyers video from last year? How can they look at that and not see Cam is toast.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
Right now lots of teams look improved. Calgary could be bad. San Jose could be in the top 5 again. But a lot of teams have made moves to improve.

This is perfect for the Flyers to now move out Konecny and Laughton. Teams are looking for both types. Top 6 scoring and bottom 6 guys. Now that FA is over it is time to target teams who missed out on players.

It is actually setting up to be a perfect time for the flyers to have 2 down season's and maybe walk away with Hagens in 2025 of McKenna in 2026.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 3 @ 10:44 AM ET
He's a defensive disaster!

Perfect guy for Torts to have in the perpetual dog house. On second thought, if Torts keeps Sprong in the Cote Suite, perhaps he'll relent on Frost. Just a thought.

- Letterkenney


He's like a Bellows that actually scores.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
Right now lots of teams look improved. Calgary could be bad. San Jose could be in the top 5 again. But a lot of teams have made moves to improve.

This is perfect for the Flyers to now move out Konecny and Laughton. Teams are looking for both types. Top 6 scoring and bottom 6 guys. Now that FA is over it is time to target teams who missed out on players.

It is actually setting up to be a perfect time for the flyers to have 2 down season's and maybe walk away with Hagens in 2025 of McKenna in 2026.

- J35Bacher

If they get hagens and McKenna with mm ummmm yeah
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 10:47 AM ET
Did Tampa watch any Flyers video from last year? How can they look at that and not see Cam is toast.
- backfire

low risk move. see how he respodns i the offseason not having to rehab. they are not going to be asking a lot from him. I say he bounces back and contributes to the 4th line.
Uncle Vanya
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.20.2024

Jul 3 @ 10:54 AM ET
low risk move. see how he respodns i the offseason not having to rehab. they are not going to be asking a lot from him. I say he bounces back and contributes to the 4th line.
- hello it's me 2050

I hope he fing lights it up.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 11:02 AM ET
I hope he fing lights it up.
- Uncle Vanya

not sure he will the opportunity to.

I would have kept him to see if he did have anything left to offer.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 3 @ 11:05 AM ET
not sure he will the opportunity to.

I would have kept him to see if he did have anything left to offer.

- hello it's me 2050


They got him for peanuts. Maybe see if he can still PK, provide a couple goals on the bottom 6.

I agree though. I would have just kept him in the bottom 6 and sent Deslauriers to Lehigh. Maybe he produces somewhat and can get a mid round pick at the deadline from a contender.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jul 3 @ 11:12 AM ET
Briebois is ruthless. Look what he just did with Stamkos, Killorn, and Palat over the last few years. They were all fan favorites and he lowballed all of them out of town. Atkinson gets no guarantees.
- GalacticStone

It is a 35+(?) contract so actually he does get some guarantees....
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 11:17 AM ET
I'm recently told that Briere and Jones are instilling character, culture and locker room harmony that is equally important to talent and skill for an NHL team on the Flyers. That should lead to numerous Stanley Cups with the history of how good the Flyers are as an organization in accomplishing that.
- MJL


It’s funny how culture and the room don’t matter, yet Colorado gave us a first to help fix theirs…
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
It’s funny how culture and the room don’t matter, yet Colorado gave us a first to help fix theirs…
- anti-lame

if RYJO was such a bad seed as you say why would the flyers bring him into the organization?

does having to pay him what 4 million for another season factor in at all for why they wanted to move him?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
if RYJO was such a bad seed as you say why would the flyers bring him into the organization?

does having to pay him what 4 million for another season factor in at all for why they wanted to move him?

- hello it's me 2050


https://www.hockeyfeed.co...-johansen-out-of-colorado


https://x.com/adater/stat.../1765545808743534825?s=46

Not what I say, what the Colorado players say. It was widely reported.

Why couldn’t the coach just make it work? (As some around here would say regarding Torts and Hayes)
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 3 @ 11:31 AM ET
Did Tampa watch any Flyers video from last year? How can they look at that and not see Cam is toast.
- backfire


Maybe if he only plays 40 games for them he'll do OK.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jul 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
Right now lots of teams look improved. Calgary could be bad. San Jose could be in the top 5 again. But a lot of teams have made moves to improve.

This is perfect for the Flyers to now move out Konecny and Laughton. Teams are looking for both types. Top 6 scoring and bottom 6 guys. Now that FA is over it is time to target teams who missed out on players.

It is actually setting up to be a perfect time for the flyers to have 2 down season's and maybe walk away with Hagens in 2025 of McKenna in 2026.

- J35Bacher

Stop making sense. If it was really a rebuild they'd do something as smart as what you had mentioned... but instead we will comtinue to dwell on the low end of mediocrity for another decade..... yay....
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
The flyers have petitioned the league for a slew of new trophies to be added to the current group.

The laperriere trophy- goes to the player who best exemplifies leadership and fortitude after getting smashed in the face with a puck. Guarantees that player has a job for life with that organization.

The Triumvirate trophy- Goes to the team that best shows what a collaborative front office can achieve.

The Rocky Thompson trophy- Goes to the best assistant coach who shows an all around knowledge and excellence at his position.

The Briere trophy- Goes to the GM who is smarter than anyone else in the room and makes the ultimate hockey draft selections.

The Fletcher trophy- For the best trade that didn’t actually happen. Because trades are hard.

The Torterella trophy- For the coach that best establishes a cohesive locker room and whose team plays the right way.

The Nic D trophy- goes to the leagues best 4th liner provided they don’t score more than two goals a season. Must lose most of his fights. Must be a great locker room presence.



- bird_dog_pa


Instead of The President's Trophy we can just have a Flyers' trophy awarded to the team whom players in the leagu feel had best exemplified was "really hard to play against."
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/core-avalanche-players-wanted-ryan-johansen-out-of-colorado


https://x.com/adater/stat.../1765545808743534825?s=46

Not what I say, what the Colorado players say. It was widely reported.

Why couldn’t the coach just make it work? (As some around here would say regarding Torts and Hayes)

- anti-lame

any player quotes? anything else from his long nhl career that says he is a problem?

still didn't answer the question.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 12:09 PM ET
any player quotes? anything else from his long nhl career that says he is a problem?

still didn't answer the question.

- hello it's me 2050


https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/UpPVHOCN33

He was on 3 teams in the course of a year and then waived.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/UpPVHOCN33

He was on 3 teams in the course of a year and then waived.

- anti-lame

where does that say he is a problem?

still didn't answer my question.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 12:14 PM ET
if RYJO was such a bad seed as you say why would the flyers bring him into the organization?

does having to pay him what 4 million for another season factor in at all for why they wanted to move him?

- hello it's me 2050


1) we brought him in to get a first and Torts has no problem ending this guys career

2) do you think giving up a 1st to save $4 million makes any sense?

That Devon Toews quote is pretty telling, especially when fans who have been watching those games all believed this was about RyJo. Very rarely are you going to get a player to call out another by name and you know this. Considering the Adrian Dater report as well as many other outlets reporting the same thing , I trust you can put the pieces together, right?

Full clip:
https://x.com/guerillaspo...tatus/1737330507774402854

Says it’s a few guys but it’s clear it’s new guys not playing how the team plays
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
1) we brought him in to get a first and Torts has no problem ending this guys career

2) do you think giving up a 1st to save $4 million makes any sense?

That Devon Toews quote is pretty telling, especially when fans who have been watching those games all believed this was about RyJo. Very rarely are you going to get a player to call out another by name and you know this. Considering the Adrian Dater report as well as many other outlets reporting the same thing , I trust you can put the pieces together, right?

- anti-lame


- so why bring him here if a problem. So they waived him to poison the LHV locker room? Having a disgruntled vet there would do wonders for the culture the flyers adore. Just what you want. Schitt don’t jive holmes.

- yes it makes perfect sense as teams' dump contracts all the time. They needed the space as they are in win now mode. You also seem to exclude the fact they got back a good dman to help with with a cup push. Plus a 5th.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
Right now lots of teams look improved. Calgary could be bad. San Jose could be in the top 5 again. But a lot of teams have made moves to improve.

This is perfect for the Flyers to now move out Konecny and Laughton. Teams are looking for both types. Top 6 scoring and bottom 6 guys. Now that FA is over it is time to target teams who missed out on players.

It is actually setting up to be a perfect time for the flyers to have 2 down season's and maybe walk away with Hagens in 2025 of McKenna in 2026.

- J35Bacher

winnipeg could be bad too

The worst teams probably will be

1. Flyers
2. Sharks
3. Islanders
4. Calgary
5. Columbus
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
Instead of The President's Trophy we can just have a Flyers' trophy awarded to the team whom players in the leagu feel had best exemplified was "really hard to play against."
- Pelle31Forever


The "trophy" that the Flyers get is that as a whole, the gullible fan base buys into the rhetoric they spew. Culture and all the buzzwords they throw around is the invisible product that they market and sell. Until the fan base as a whole, wises up. Things may never truly change.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 12:31 PM ET
- so why bring him here if a problem. So they waived him to poison the LHV locker room? Having a disgruntled vet there would do wonders for the culture the flyers adore. Just what you want. Schitt don’t jive holmes.

- yes it makes perfect sense as teams' dump contracts all the time. They needed the space as they are in win now mode. You also seem to exclude the fact they got back a good dman to help with with a cup push. Plus a 5th.

- hello it's me 2050


Walker wasn’t getting you a first alone. If he did we would have done that rather than taking RyJo.

It doesn’t jive? It’s what happened. We waived him to play in the AHL which is when his “injury” magically appeared.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 12:35 PM ET
Walker wasn’t getting you a first alone. If he did we would have done that rather than taking RyJo.

It doesn’t jive? It’s what happened. We waived him to play in the AHL which is when his “injury” magically appeared.

- anti-lame

- no kidding he wasn't getting a 1st on his own. that isn't news.

- then if such a bad guy why have him in the LHV locker room with the young players? you really want that kind on influence on your prospects? a bad seed disgruntled vet?

anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 12:37 PM ET
- no kidding he wasn't getting a 1st on his own. that isn't news.

- then if such a bad guy why have him in the LHV locker room with the young players? you really want that kind on influence on your prospects? a bad seed disgruntled vet?

- hello it's me 2050


Don’t ask me, ask DB and Torts and Jonesy. Cost of doing business for a first they had no business acquiring. They must have had confidence Lappy wouldn’t put up with poop. That or they knew he wouldn’t report.

At least that’s the word around the popcorn machines
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