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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
So MM is here, how are the flyers going to be worse than last year? I dont see it. They need to get rid of some guys for that to happen. Right now my guess is flyers will be drafting #12-14
- bradster

- weak goaltending

- still putrid PP

- still a below offense.

- possible torts gets tuned out.

- injury prone defense which isnt that to boot.

I think they draft top 8 easily if they stand pat.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 3 @ 1:28 PM ET
how did you know I have a pool?
- hello it's me 2050

Take a nap in it. With any luck, you won’t get out…
FATALITY!
- anti-lame

One can only hope.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 3 @ 1:30 PM ET
- weak goaltending

- still putrid PP

- still a below offense.

- possible torts gets tuned out.

- injury prone defense which isnt that to boot.

I think they draft top 8 easily if they stand pat.

- hello it's me 2050


Agree with all.

Add to it

- could still move vets out like Laughton or even move guys like Frost and Farabeee.

- Not overachieve like last year where they won games they probably shouldn't have.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 1:31 PM ET
look at Briebois' moves the past few yrs and then compare to Briere's now tell me who is doing a better job. That Tampa team is hanging on my a thread these days overpaying and then liquidating - rinse repeat
- 26912 PP

Looking at the flyers last 4 top picks in each draft this what you have to show for it:

Jett
MM
Cutter
Samu

That is a well not good. Don’t want to hear they have JD. For a team that sucks as bad as the flyers that is just brutal. Then when you look at the roster. Then at the prospects. How can they be this bad at this? They are “ rebuilding” yet are so far away all one can do is laugh. Take MM out of the equation and prospect poll is in the bottom 3rd easily.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
Take a nap in it. With any luck, you won’t get out…

One can only hope.

- roenick97

lamont why such anger? daddy didn't give you love as a child?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
So MM is here, how are the flyers going to be worse than last year? I dont see it. They need to get rid of some guys for that to happen. Right now my guess is flyers will be drafting #12-14
- bradster


I think MM will make things more entertaining for sure, but the team as a whole doesn’t appear to be better. They still don’t have any reliable or centers, too many wingers, the same unproven goalies, and a suspect defense with nothing new to add to an abysmal PP. even if they are slightly better than last year, it seems all the other teams have gotten better so the Flyers should have a really good chance at picks 1-5.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 3 @ 1:33 PM ET
- weak goaltending

- still putrid PP

- still a below offense.

- possible torts gets tuned out.

- injury prone defense which isnt that to boot.

I think they draft top 8 easily if they stand pat.

- hello it's me 2050



I hope your right, i dont see it. IF drysdale is heathy, MM, Cam being bought out, goal i am on the fence with . Possible Fedotov will be decent to good
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Jul 3 @ 1:33 PM ET

- could still move vets out like Laughton or even move guys like Frost and Farabeee.

- J35Bacher

I doubt it. Briere has misread the market by asking for too much or the other GMs are low balling him. My guess it’s the former.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 3 @ 1:34 PM ET
To me, Pavel Buchnevich's contract solidifies what TK should make in his next deal. Same production, roughly same age when contract begins, thus 6 x $8M is what TK should get. He can want more, but bottom line, the Flyers should not go further than this for TK.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 3 @ 1:35 PM ET
I hope your right, i dont see it. IF drysdale is heathy, MM, Cam being bought out, goal i am on the fence with . Possible Fedotov will be decent to good
- bradster


Not having walker for the year could be the difference, still not convinced they are worse though
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 3 @ 1:41 PM ET
lamont why such anger? daddy didn't give you love as a child?
- hello it's me 2050

How close are you to your 50 comment a day quota here on hockeybuzz? Think you’ll once again meet that mark?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 3 @ 1:41 PM ET
I doubt it. Briere has misread the market by asking for too much or the other GMs are low balling him. My guess it’s the former.
- psuhockey


Now that the free agent frenzy is dead it will allow teams to look at their rosters and see what they still want to upgrade. I can see trade avenues. Lot of playoff teams looking for bottom 6 where I could see Laughton. Maybe you get a 2nd and prospect if you take a contract back? They just need to be creative.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 3 @ 1:42 PM ET
Looking at the flyers last 4 top picks in each draft this what you have to show for it:

Jett
MM
Cutter
Samu

That is a well not good. Don’t want to hear they have JD. For a team that sucks as bad as the flyers that is just brutal. Then when you look at the roster. Then at the prospects. How can they be this bad at this? They are “ rebuilding” yet are so far away all one can do is laugh. Take MM out of the equation and prospect poll is in the bottom 3rd easily.

- hello it's me 2050


You forgot that Bonk was drafted in the same round as MM, in the same year.
So it would go:
Jett
MM
Bonk
Cutter

Samu was a second round pick in 2021
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 3 @ 1:42 PM ET
The "trophy" that the Flyers get is that as a whole, the gullible fan base buys into the rhetoric they spew. Culture and all the buzzwords they throw around is the invisible product that they market and sell. Until the fan base as a whole, wises up. Things may never truly change.
- MJL


The Flyers are now the fat, 5'5", unemployed, lives with parents person who desperately wants to find their soul mate but only has "a nice personality " and "funny" as selling points.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 1:46 PM ET
How close are you to your 50 comment a day quota here on hockeybuzz? Think you’ll once again meet that mark?
- roenick97

bringing up daddy a sore spot I see.

what would you say is the most requested lunch meat you slice daily?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 1:46 PM ET
You forgot that Bonk was drafted in the same round as MM, in the same year.
So it would go:
Jett
MM
Bonk
Cutter

Samu was a second round pick in 2021

- WhiskeyMan

no I didn't forget at all. go back and read what I said.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 3 @ 1:49 PM ET
no I didn't forget at all. go back and read what I said.
- hello it's me 2050


I guess if you go by draft you are correct but when I when I read "top picks" I read first round picks.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 3 @ 1:51 PM ET
bringing up daddy a sore spot I see.

what would you say is the most requested lunch meat you slice daily?

- hello it's me 2050

This site needs a daily average of comments left by each member. I’ve gotta see your’s.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 3 @ 1:51 PM ET
- weak goaltending

- still putrid PP

- still a below offense.

- possible torts gets tuned out.

- injury prone defense which isnt that to boot.

I think they draft top 8 easily if they stand pat.

- hello it's me 2050


Weren't the Flyers on pace to finish 9th worst before winning those last 2 games this year? I wonder what the Flyers draft would've looked like if they hadn't.

A game here or there is all that stands between 8th and 12th.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 3 @ 1:55 PM ET
So MM is here, how are the flyers going to be worse than last year? I dont see it. They need to get rid of some guys for that to happen. Right now my guess is flyers will be drafting #12-14
- bradster

every other team pretty much got better
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 3 @ 2:00 PM ET
winnipeg could be bad too

The worst teams probably will be

1. Flyers
2. Sharks
3. Islanders
4. Calgary
5. Columbus

- 2Real


I will say in no particular order bottom 5

Sharks
Utah
Ducks
Seattle
Flyers


WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 3 @ 2:05 PM ET
no I didn't forget at all. go back and read what I said.
- hello it's me 2050


So lets compare to a gold standard to some, Hurricanes.
Jett
MM - in the NHL
Cutter - in the NHL
Samu - in the AHL

Badinka
Nadeau - played 1 game in the NHL, currently listed as AHL
Trikozov - in the AHL
Morrow - played 2 games in the NHL, currently listed as AHL

Which looks better a team with 2 of 4 picks in the NHL or a team with none?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
So lets compare to a gold standard to some, Hurricanes.
Jett
MM - in the NHL
Cutter - in the NHL
Samu - in the AHL

Badinka
Nadeau - played 1 game in the NHL, currently listed as AHL
Trikozov - in the AHL
Morrow - played 2 games in the NHL, currently listed as AHL

Which looks better a team with 2 of 4 picks in the NHL or a team with none?

- WhiskeyMan

I do not care what other teams are doing. Is that supposed to justify or let the flyers off the hook?

The point is clearly missed by you which isn't a shock. Great comparison by the way. Pure entertainment.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 3 @ 2:10 PM ET
So lets compare to a gold standard to some, Hurricanes.
Jett
MM - in the NHL
Cutter - in the NHL
Samu - in the AHL

Badinka
Nadeau - played 1 game in the NHL, currently listed as AHL
Trikozov - in the AHL
Morrow - played 2 games in the NHL, currently listed as AHL

Which looks better a team with 2 of 4 picks in the NHL or a team with none?

- WhiskeyMan

You can't be serious with this, right? Right??? 'Currently listed as AHL' it's the (frank)ing offseason. The total number of NHL games played by those Canes prospects you listed is still more NHL games than the Flyers prospects (or former) you listed. Can you do me a favor and list each one's draft year and pick number? Thanks.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:15 PM ET
What should those of us who don’t want to gullible fans anymore do? How do I wise up? Should I stop following their every move obsessively? Are you saying I shouldn’t spend hours of my day discussing them on social media? Should I stop watching their games? Please let me know how I can alter my behavior so that I can stop being so dumb.
- Dkos


First, why do you consider yourself a gullible fan? Are you a fan who buys into the rhetoric the team spews and believes that the team is on the right path and has the right approach to building a contending team? Only you can look inside yourself and determine if you need to change your behavior. That's a personal choice.

I personally believe that only a message sent to the organization that the fan base is unhappy with their approach and philosophies will change how they operate. That happening is a pipe dream unfortunately.
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