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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 3 @ 2:15 PM ET
no I didn't forget at all. go back and read what I said.
- hello it's me 2050

Sorry, but this is a ridiculous post. The Flyers officially started the rebuild once Fletcher and Scott were fired. Since then Briere has been working to draft and develop players and obtain more assets in a deep 2025 draft. Michkov was the highest rated player in the draft season, a close 2nd to only Connor Bedard. After Bonk's +1 a redraft would have put him even higher in the 1st round. Jett Luchenko has a high ceiling. Plus next year the Flyers have 6 picks in the first two rounds of a very good draft. We shall see how Drysdale and Quitter develop, but remember, Quitter was a Fletcher pick, not a Briere pick. In the end, we can't judge these picks and prospects now, we have to wait 2-3 years to see how it turns out. Briere took a gamble on Michkov last year and he took a gamble on Luchenko this year. How these gambles turn out will determine if Briere has a job or not.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 3 @ 2:15 PM ET
So lets compare to a gold standard to some, Hurricanes.
Jett
MM - in the NHL
Cutter - in the NHL
Samu - in the AHL

Badinka
Nadeau - played 1 game in the NHL, currently listed as AHL
Trikozov - in the AHL
Morrow - played 2 games in the NHL, currently listed as AHL

Which looks better a team with 2 of 4 picks in the NHL or a team with none?

- WhiskeyMan



Badinka- picked THIS draft at #34 in the 2nd round
Nadeau picked #30 same year as Michkov who has played no games in the NHL.
Trikozov picked #60 in 2nd round
Morrow picked #40 in 2nd round.

I'm not sure what you are getting at.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:16 PM ET
He is healthy, and rest assured he will not report to camp
- jd250


If he is healthy then he has to report to camp. If he doesn't, the Flyers can suspend him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:17 PM ET
https://x.com/i/status/1808139026370564516

Yup, Jett's not that good ...

- jd250


First, that's a drill. Secondly, there isn't anyone on this forum that I'm aware of that has said that Luchanko is not good or won't be a good player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:18 PM ET
look at Briebois' moves the past few yrs and then compare to Briere's now tell me who is doing a better job. That Tampa team is hanging on my a thread these days overpaying and then liquidating - rinse repeat
- 26912 PP


Briesbois. That TB team has 3 elite level players and just added Guentzel.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 2:19 PM ET
Sorry, but this is a ridiculous post. The Flyers officially started the rebuild once Fletcher and Scott were fired. Since then Briere has been working to draft and develop players and obtain more assets in a deep 2025 draft. Michkov was the highest rated player in the draft season, a close 2nd to only Connor Bedard. After Bonk's +1 a redraft would have put him even higher in the 1st round. Jett Luchenko has a high ceiling. Plus next year the Flyers have 6 picks in the first two rounds of a very good draft. We shall see how Drysdale and Quitter develop, but remember, Quitter was a Fletcher pick, not a Briere pick. In the end, we can't judge these picks and prospects now, we have to wait 2-3 years to see how it turns out. Briere took a gamble on Michkov last year and he took a gamble on Luchenko this year. How these gambles turn out will determine if Briere has a job or not.
- jd250

you also miss the point. shocking. MM was not a gamble at all. It was the simple smart play. No matter how he turns out. It was the correct move.

Especially about Cutter. JD is soft as butter injury prone at bad spots of the body. Just do not see it with him at all so far.

But your boy Flahr has bene the constant during both tenures.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
Badinka- picked THIS draft at #34 in the 2nd round
Nadeau picked #30 same year as Michkov who has played no games in the NHL.
Trikozov picked #60 in 2nd round
Morrow picked #40 in 2nd round.

I'm not sure what you are getting at.

- MBFlyerfan

peeps just missing the point obviously.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
Badinka- picked THIS draft at #34 in the 2nd round
Nadeau picked #30 same year as Michkov who has played no games in the NHL.
Trikozov picked #60 in 2nd round
Morrow picked #40 in 2nd round.

I'm not sure what you are getting at.

- MBFlyerfan

Mind boggling. Three 2nd rounders and a late first round pick (30th) to three top 15 picks and a dude who has 69 AHL regular season games under his belt. If anything the comparison is, oh wow the Canes actually signed their college draft picks and got them in NHL games.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
The Flyers are now the fat, 5'5", unemployed, lives with parents person who desperately wants to find their soul mate but only has "a nice personality " and "funny" as selling points.
- Pelle31Forever


I'll add posting a fake picture of themselves in their bio
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
Mind boggling. Three 2nd rounders and a late first round pick (30th) to three top 15 picks and a dude who has 69 AHL regular season games under his belt. If anything the comparison is, oh wow the Canes actually signed their college draft picks and got them in NHL games.
- TobyFlenderson

add the cane are contenders. amazing peeps will defend to the end no matter what
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
First, that's a drill. Secondly, there isn't anyone on this forum that I'm aware of that has said that Luchanko is not good or won't be a good player.
- MJL



And isn't skating supposed to be is best talent?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 3 @ 2:29 PM ET
Would this work?

To TOR: Laughton
To PHL: Liljegren + 2025 2nd rounder(FLA pick)

Both have 2 years at 3mil. Lilijegren is 25 right shot, RD.

TOR upgrades their bottom 6.

mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 3 @ 2:31 PM ET
Looking at the back and forths today, it must be an extremely slow news/rumors day.

Laughton still here
TK status the same
Frost still gonna be a healthy scratch
Farabee in the doghouse
Risto recovering from late surgery
Coots getting paid
Michkov is the Flyers new doughnut (no center)
Same defense returning
Same offense returning but with MM
Same goalies returning
Same coaches returning

Alrighty. It’s been one helluva ride so far since the Flyers last played! But…

Well show em all at next years draft!
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 3 @ 2:33 PM ET
Sorry, but this is a ridiculous post. The Flyers officially started the rebuild once Fletcher and Scott were fired. Since then Briere has been working to draft and develop players and obtain more assets in a deep 2025 draft. Michkov was the highest rated player in the draft season, a close 2nd to only Connor Bedard. After Bonk's +1 a redraft would have put him even higher in the 1st round. Jett Luchenko has a high ceiling. Plus next year the Flyers have 6 picks in the first two rounds of a very good draft. We shall see how Drysdale and Quitter develop, but remember, Quitter was a Fletcher pick, not a Briere pick. In the end, we can't judge these picks and prospects now, we have to wait 2-3 years to see how it turns out. Briere took a gamble on Michkov last year and he took a gamble on Luchenko this year. How these gambles turn out will determine if Briere has a job or not.
- jd250


Does anyone think when Bonk does get here, that Rocky and Torts experiments with him at the bumper position?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 3 @ 2:39 PM ET
you also miss the point. shocking. MM was not a gamble at all. It was the simple smart play. No matter how he turns out. It was the correct move.

Especially about Cutter. JD is soft as butter injury prone at bad spots of the body. Just do not see it with him at all so far.

But your boy Flahr has bene the constant during both tenures.

- hello it's me 2050


surely you jest.

you are on a roll today
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 3 @ 3:01 PM ET
You can't be serious with this, right? Right??? 'Currently listed as AHL' it's the (frank)ing offseason. The total number of NHL games played by those Canes prospects you listed is still more NHL games than the Flyers prospects (or former) you listed. Can you do me a favor and list each one's draft year and pick number? Thanks.
- TobyFlenderson



Just yesterday the same poster said prospects mean nothing and are crap.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 3 @ 3:05 PM ET
surely you jest.

you are on a roll today

- anti-lame

seeded or unseeded?
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 3 @ 3:07 PM ET
And isn't skating supposed to be is best talent?
- MBFlyerfan


From the draft reports he is a superior skater with speed and edge work. You can't tell anything by one small clip of one drill - seems like a 20 second clip provided by JD2Fitty trying to prove he "has the goods."

Skating does look good in it but not much to go on in terms of what his ceiling is at this time.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:12 PM ET
From the draft reports he is a superior skater with speed and edge work. You can't tell anything by one small clip of one drill - seems like a 20 second clip provided by JD2Fitty trying to prove he "has the goods."

Skating does look good in it but not much to go on in terms of what his ceiling is at this time.

- Flyfly


Even though I think the Flyers thought process was poor and they picked the wrong player. I still believe that Luchanko is going to be a good player for the Flyers. I'm glad that they picked a player with elite skating ability. They badly need that in the lineup.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 3 @ 3:20 PM ET
you also miss the point. shocking. MM was not a gamble at all. It was the simple smart play. No matter how he turns out. It was the correct move.

Especially about Cutter. JD is soft as butter injury prone at bad spots of the body. Just do not see it with him at all so far.

But your boy Flahr has bene the constant during both tenures.

- hello it's me 2050


I think JD was the pickup because they were counting on his production last year to get into the playoffs, otherwise shouldve held cutter and traded in the offseason.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 3 @ 3:28 PM ET
https://x.com/i/status/1808139026370564516

Yup, Jett's not that good ...

- jd250


I don't see anything too impressive besides the skating. That was pretty feeble defending from josh z. And the goalie didn't even try. Just stood there leaving a gaping hole blocker side.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:29 PM ET
I think JD was the pickup because they were counting on his production last year to get into the playoffs, otherwise shouldve held cutter and traded in the offseason.
- bradster



I worry about JD. Has he ever been healthy? And the kind of injuries he has sustained worry me that they may end up being chronic. Abdomen, shoulder etc.


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:30 PM ET
I don't see anything too impressive besides the skating. That was pretty feeble defending from josh z. And the goalie didn't even try. Just stood there leaving a gaping hole blocker side.
- PT21



You don't think JD knows what "the goods" are in a player?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 3 @ 3:31 PM ET
If he is healthy then he has to report to camp. If he doesn't, the Flyers can suspend him.
- MJL

He is healthy, but will claim he is not healthy as he has so far since trade. Briere has said it multiple times if you read between the lines, Johansen is faking.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 3 @ 3:31 PM ET
You don't think JD knows what "the goods" are in a player?

- MBFlyerfan

I know more in my little pinky then you will ever know!
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