I worry about JD. Has he ever been healthy? And the kind of injuries he has sustained worry me that they may end up being chronic. Abdomen, shoulder etc.
- MBFlyerfan

The kid is only 22 years old, he will get bigger and stronger and figure things out in terms of how to avoid putting himself in a bad position and absorb contact better. I am not worried about this kid, he is a good pro that will do what it takes to stay on the ice.

First, why do you consider yourself a gullible fan? Are you a fan who buys into the rhetoric the team spews and believes that the team is on the right path and has the right approach to building a contending team? Only you can look inside yourself and determine if you need to change your behavior. That's a personal choice.

I personally believe that only a message sent to the organization that the fan base is unhappy with their approach and philosophies will change how they operate. That happening is a pipe dream unfortunately.
- MJL

Maybe I’m gullible. I do like a lot of the work ethic, desire, culture themes they push. The emotional side of the game appeals to me a lot more than stats. I guess some of that Flyers “rhetoric” is why I’ve been a fan for 50+ years. Do I believe they are on the right path? I’m doubtful. I don’t really like when people tell me how to fan. I don’t need to be told I’m stupid because I’m fanning wrong. If you really think about it, being this involved in a team is pretty goofy to begin with.

What’s a pipe dream? That fans will send a message or that the organization will change how they operate? If you put together a protest letter to Comcast/Flyers I’ll be happy to sign it.

First, that's a drill. Secondly, there isn't anyone on this forum that I'm aware of that has said that Luchanko is not good or won't be a good player.
- MJL

Really Sherlock .. I think you should dig deeper. I saw several posts comparing Luchenko to Jay O'Brien which was one of the more ridiculous posts I saw.

First, that's a drill. Secondly, there isn't anyone on this forum that I'm aware of that has said that Luchanko is not good or won't be a good player.
- MJL

Really Sherlock .. I think you should dig deeper. I saw several posts comparing Luchenko to Jay O'Brien which was one of the more ridiculous posts I saw.

seeded or unseeded?
- hello it's me 2050

Comment 27. Keep it going, you’re so close…

Looking at the back and forths today, it must be an extremely slow news/rumors day.

Laughton still here
TK status the same
Frost still gonna be a healthy scratch
Farabee in the doghouse
Risto recovering from late surgery
Coots getting paid
Michkov is the Flyers new doughnut (no center)
Same defense returning
Same offense returning but with MM
Same goalies returning
Same coaches returning

Alrighty. It’s been one helluva ride so far since the Flyers last played! But…

Well show em all at next years draft!
- mikeyo27

I don’t consider myself to be a hater but I was just thinking pretty much the same thing. Like Wtf? At the 2025 TDL Laughton and TK will be here and either injured or having poop years. And we’ll still be on this merry go round with no way to get off.

I don't see anything too impressive besides the skating. That was pretty feeble defending from josh z. And the goalie didn't even try. Just stood there leaving a gaping hole blocker side.
- PT21

It's a development camp drill... can't believe folks are trying to read this much into it.

He is healthy, but will claim he is not healthy as he has so far since trade. Briere has said it multiple times if you read between the lines, Johansen is faking.
- jd250

Again, if he is healthy, he has to report to camp. Even if he is unhealthy, he has to likely report to camp for a physical. This is something the Flyers can challenge if they choose to. Their medical team has to document his injury in order for him to be placed on LTIR.

you also miss the point. shocking. MM was not a gamble at all. It was the simple smart play. No matter how he turns out. It was the correct move.

Especially about Cutter. JD is soft as butter injury prone at bad spots of the body. Just do not see it with him at all so far.

But your boy Flahr has bene the constant during both tenures.
- hello it's me 2050

MM was a gamble which is why he fell to the Flyers at 7 in the first place. No one doubted his talent but many teams were scared off by the geopolitical situation and whether they could get him to the NHL. With JD, give him a chance, he is only 22 years old. He will get stronger and work with Brad Shaw who will bring out the most in him. Drysdale will be a strong player for the Flyers. Will he be better than Quitter? We'll find out in a couple of years. Flahr has done a good job picking in the 1st round of the draft, that is just a fact. York, Foerster, Quitter (recall people were surprised he was picked this high), Michkov, Bonk and Luchenko. Not a bad crop of players.

Really Sherlock .. I think you should dig deeper. I saw several posts comparing Luchenko to Jay O'Brien which was one of the more ridiculous posts I saw.
- jd250

No Sherlock, they were making fun of your ability to assess players by bringing up Jay O'Brien.

It's a development camp drill... can't believe folks are trying to read this much into it.
- Tomahawk

ding, ding ding... we have a winner.

Maybe I’m gullible. I do like a lot of the work ethic, desire, culture themes they push. The emotional side of the game appeals to me a lot more than stats. I guess some of that Flyers “rhetoric” is why I’ve been a fan for 50+ years. Do I believe they are on the right path? I’m doubtful. I don’t really like when people tell me how to fan. I don’t need to be told I’m stupid because I’m fanning wrong. If you really think about it, being this involved in a team is pretty goofy to begin with.

What’s a pipe dream? That fans will send a message or that the organization will change how they operate? If you put together a protest letter to Comcast/Flyers I’ll be happy to sign it.
- Dkos

I don't believe I told you how to fan. In fact I told you that what you do is completely up to you. It's a pipe dream that this fan base as a whole, will collectively by showing disinterest and therefore disapproval to force them to change.

I don't believe I told you how to fan. In fact I told you that what you do is completely up to you. It's a pipe dream that this fan base as a whole, will collectively by showing disinterest and therefore disapproval to force them to change.
- MJL

Does this or does this not include you?

I know more in my little pinky then you will ever know!
- jd250

Oh JD, you try so hard but people just laugh at you.

MM was a gamble which is why he fell to the Flyers at 7 in the first place. No one doubted his talent but many teams were scared off by the geopolitical situation and whether they could get him to the NHL. With JD, give him a chance, he is only 22 years old. He will get stronger and work with Brad Shaw who will bring out the most in him. Drysdale will be a strong player for the Flyers. Will he be better than Quitter? We'll find out in a couple of years. Flahr has done a good job picking in the 1st round of the draft, that is just a fact. York, Foerster, Quitter (recall people were surprised he was picked this high), Michkov, Bonk and Luchenko. Not a bad crop of players.
- jd250

#1, geopolitics wasn't the only reason MM dropped to #7. He was very undersized and his skating was suspect. Teams are back to placing a premium on size at the draft. Most of the big guys are just as skilled/mobile as small guys now.

#2, if JD can't stay healthy Brad Shaw won't matter. Nothing else will matter. If he doesn't play he can't improve.

#3, Cutter was ranked #5 in McKenzie's final rankings, which are based on input from NHL scout/executives. Flahr didn't do anything unusual by taking Cutter at #5.

Does this or does this not include you?
- roenick97

Good question.

look at Briebois' moves the past few yrs and then compare to Briere's now tell me who is doing a better job. That Tampa team is hanging on my a thread these days overpaying and then liquidating - rinse repeat
- 26912 PP

People go on and on about culture here and it always means the same thing in their mind: practice hard, be a good teammate, play hard etc. But there are other cultures too.

The risk-taking culture: Tampa saw a rising player in Hagel and gave up essentially 2 late firsts for what at that point was a player without much draft pedigree and who had 61 points in 107 games (avg to 47 odd in a season). Now, he seems to be on the verge of being a ppg player. Often such gambles don't pan out (the offer sheet to KK didn't for Canes) but it shows a mentality prepared to take risks and not worried about failure.

The nothing-but-the best culture: Got rid of Palat, lynchpin Stamkos, a potential #1D in Sergachev. Identified core and ruthlessly jettisoning other pieces.

The be-prepared-to-have-a-losing-culture-before-having-a-winning-one (too many examples, incl both SC finalists)

The use-your-head culture (using analytics as a tool for example- Canes?)

†he draft-develo- and-be-patient-with-in-house-talent-culture: Avs.

And so on.

I worry about JD. Has he ever been healthy? And the kind of injuries he has sustained worry me that they may end up being chronic. Abdomen, shoulder etc.
- MBFlyerfan

I worry about more than just his health. I havent seen anything special. But some guys shine brighter when they have more talent around them. Hoping thats his case

It's a development camp drill... can't believe folks are trying to read this much into it.
- Tomahawk

Well I clicked expecting to go wowza based on reactions. I didn't see anything tremendous so I was pretty baffled.

I then spent 5 mins trying to figure out who the heck that Zakresu kid was.

Good question.
- Dkos

I’m not even trying to attack him I just don’t understand how someone could make that statement and pretend like he’s not watching the games and the daily progress of this organization himself.

I’m not even trying to attack him I just don’t understand how someone could make that statement and pretend like he’s not watching the games and the daily progress of this organization himself.
- roenick97

I get what you're saying. I feel that about a lot of folks around here. I guess if I don't want people criticizing the way I fan I shouldnt question how they fan.

No Sherlock, they were making fun of your ability to assess players by bringing up Jay O'Brien.

- MJL

Well, all I can say is I watched JOB grow up around these parts and he was a damned good hockey player that was going to picked in the 1st round of that draft, if not by the Hextall and the Flyers then by another team. It was a gamble for sure and it didn't work out for Hextall, but I think it was a worthy gamble. Its not anyones fault that the kid got hurt multiple times which curtailed not only his development, but his ability also. None of you on this forum even heard of JOB before his name got called in the draft, and thus none of you have a right to comment about the player.

Well I clicked expecting to go wowza based on reactions. I didn't see anything tremendous so I was pretty baffled.

I then spent 5 mins trying to figure out who the heck that Zakresu kid was.
- PT21

Zakreski lol. Must be a good Polish kid.

I’m not even trying to attack him I just don’t understand how someone could make that statement and pretend like he’s not watching the games and the daily progress of this organization himself.
- roenick97

Well he did say the fanbase as a whole, right? So obviously, he includes himself.

The NHL as a whole is heavily dependent on tix sales (so watching the games on tv and following the team may not mean much). The situation might be different for us, in that the owners and the tv coverage owners are the same.

If the Flyers are like other teams though, it might mean he is just calling for the WFC to be less full. Which, in summary means that he could still watch the games on tv, follow the team, and discuss it here, without being a hypocrite.

People go on and on about culture here and it always means the same thing in their mind: practice hard, be a good teammate, play hard etc. But there are other cultures too.

The risk-taking culture: Tampa saw a rising player in Hagel and gave up essentially 2 late firsts for what at that point was a player without much draft pedigree and who had 61 points in 107 games (avg to 47 odd in a season). Now, he seems to be on the verge of being a ppg player. Often such gambles don't pan out (the offer sheet to KK didn't for Canes) but it shows a mentality prepared to take risks and not worried about failure.

The nothing-but-the best culture: Got rid of Palat, lynchpin Stamkos, a potential #1D in Sergachev. Identified core and ruthlessly jettisoning other pieces.

The be-prepared-to-have-a-losing-culture-before-having-a-winning-one (too many examples, incl both SC finalists)

The use-your-head culture (using analytics as a tool for example- Canes?)

†he draft-develo- and-be-patient-with-in-house-talent-culture: Avs.

And so on.
- PT21

The only culture that matters is a winning culture.