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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 5:43 PM ET
Why TK even wants an extension here does not make sense. He will get paid handsomely on his next contract. Why not get paid with a chance of winning something.
- bird_dog_pa


I'm honestly surprised a deal hasn't been announced yet. Could possibly mean negotiations are a little precocious. Maybe Konecny's ask is a bit high? Who knows.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 5 @ 5:43 PM ET
Why TK even wants an extension here does not make sense. He will get paid handsomely on his next contract. Why not get paid with a chance of winning something.
- bird_dog_pa

said that as well. I guess he just wants to take the bag and risk getting hurt? cant fault a guy for that. then ask for a trade later !!!

he likes it here with zero pressure. he can go out no one bothers him I bet. winning is not a top priority if he signs. he is comfortable.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 5 @ 5:44 PM ET
Yikes, and this is the GM who fleeced the Flyers.
- Tomahawk

this is a new era of orange..
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 5:45 PM ET
Why TK even wants an extension here does not make sense. He will get paid handsomely on his next contract. Why not get paid with a chance of winning something.
- bird_dog_pa
Flyers are desperate for the playoffs and if they think they’ve got a chance they’re just probably going to hold him, which is absurd imo.
Uncle Vanya
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.20.2024

Jul 5 @ 5:46 PM ET
I'm honestly surprised a deal hasn't been announced yet. Could possibly mean negotiations are and a little precocious. Maybe Konecny's ask is a bit high? Who knows.
- MJL

This contract situation will run into the season and TK will inevitably be injured next season killing any chance of a trade.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 5 @ 5:53 PM ET
Yikes, and this is the GM who fleeced the Flyers.
- Tomahawk

Right.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 5 @ 5:54 PM ET
said that as well. I guess he just wants to take the bag and risk getting hurt? cant fault a guy for that. then ask for a trade later !!!

he likes it here with zero pressure. he can go out no one bothers him I bet. winning is not a top priority if he signs. he is comfortable.

- hello it's me 2050

Ummmm we refer to that as status quo
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 5 @ 5:55 PM ET
This contract situation will run into the season and TK will inevitably be injured next season killing any chance of a trade.
- Uncle Vanya

To be more precise. Likely a week or 2 before tdl
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 5:56 PM ET
Flyers are desperate for the playoffs and if they think they’ve got a chance they’re just probably going to hold him, which is absurd imo.
- hereticpride



Well honestly it’s not a bad scenario for him to be rostered this year. If they are out of the playoffs he’s sure to be dealt at the deadline
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:02 PM ET
Well honestly it’s not a bad scenario for him to be rostered this year. If they are out of the playoffs he’s sure to be dealt at the deadline
- Just5

No they won’t lmmfao. They’ll hold him with hopes of signing him and lose him for nothing in that scenario
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 5 @ 6:03 PM ET
The Flyers like their guys. If Laughton can be had for a cheap aav he should be in line for a nice preemptive extension next offseason as well.

bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:25 PM ET
said that as well. I guess he just wants to take the bag and risk getting hurt? cant fault a guy for that. then ask for a trade later !!!

he likes it here with zero pressure. he can go out no one bothers him I bet. winning is not a top priority if he signs. he is comfortable.

- hello it's me 2050



It’s easy to armchair quarterback and say I would take a lighter contract if I had a chance to win the cup. The fact is it’s very hard to do so guys take the money and hope for the best.
I can’t fathom making 7 M a year let alone 9 m a year.
Just 7M is life changing. Invest wisely and your set for life.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 5 @ 6:28 PM ET
I'm honestly surprised a deal hasn't been announced yet. Could possibly mean negotiations are a little precocious. Maybe Konecny's ask is a bit high? Who knows.
- MJL


Didn't TK wait util training camp started when he signed his last contract?
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 5 @ 6:29 PM ET
Having players like laughton on the team will help the flyers not have a stellar season
Uncle Vanya
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.20.2024

Jul 5 @ 6:32 PM ET
To be more precise. Likely a week or 2 before tdl
- Stayin alive

Like clockwork.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:47 PM ET
The Flyers like their guys. If Laughton can be had for a cheap aav he should be in line for a nice preemptive extension next offseason as well.
- StepfordSam

I still can’t believe the Hathaway extension. I mean I can because this franchise is ran by clowns, but still.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 5 @ 7:45 PM ET
It’s easy to armchair quarterback and say I would take a lighter contract if I had a chance to win the cup. The fact is it’s very hard to do so guys take the money and hope for the best.
I can’t fathom making 7 M a year let alone 9 m a year.
Just 7M is life changing. Invest wisely and your set for life.

- bird_dog_pa

Don’t even need to invest wisely. Even 1 year at 7 million sets you for life. Not counting any investments over 70 years that’s 100k a year which you can easily live on and be set for life. Just saying lol
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 5 @ 7:46 PM ET
I still can’t believe the Hathaway extension. I mean I can because this franchise is ran by clowns, but still.
- hereticpride

Maybe someone at tdl will be looking for a star on cheap contract with a few years left on contract?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 5 @ 8:00 PM ET
I still can’t believe the Hathaway extension. I mean I can because this franchise is ran by clowns, but still.
- hereticpride


Too much money? Too many years? Don’t like the player? All of the above? Genuinely curious.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:20 PM ET
Too much money? Too many years? Don’t like the player? All of the above? Genuinely curious.
- anti-lame

It shows no direction. Signing Hathaway should have been immediately followed by a Laughton trade especially with Poehling locked up too. But Briere is showing himself to be paralyzed by indecision. The only trades he has made he was forced to make. The plan seems to be to outdraft the competition with middle of the 1st round picks much like Hextall and much like Hextall is going to fail.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 5 @ 8:30 PM ET
It shows no direction. Signing Hathaway should have been immediately followed by a Laughton trade especially with Poehling locked up too. But Briere is showing himself to be paralyzed by indecision. The only trades he has made he was forced to make. The plan seems to be to outdraft the competition with middle of the 1st round picks much like Hextall and much like Hextall is going to fail.
- psuhockey


More like paralyzed by the shadow of Torts and the kind of lineup he prefers.

But yeah, it's funny to see the fanbase so optimistic for another round of the Hexy wait-and-see. Michkov plays the part of the new Giroux (if we're even so lucky).
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 5 @ 8:34 PM ET
More like paralyzed by the shadow of Torts and the kind of lineup he prefers.

But yeah, it's funny to see the fanbase so optimistic for another round of the Hexy wait-and-see. Michkov plays the part of the new Giroux (if we're even so lucky).

- Tomahawk


Hexy 2.0 baby.

Well maybe, however if torts was really running roughshod, I would think at least one of farabee/frost would be gone by now. So DB is holding some power
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Jul 5 @ 8:40 PM ET
More like paralyzed by the shadow of Torts and the kind of lineup he prefers.

But yeah, it's funny to see the fanbase so optimistic for another round of the Hexy wait-and-see. Michkov plays the part of the new Giroux (if we're even so lucky).

- Tomahawk

I don’t agree that Tortorella has the influence everyone makes him out to have. He’s just an easy villain. Briere is just not ready to be GM and is falling into the exact same mistakes Hextall made like putting too much stock into his own scouting acumen for the draft and believing all his young players will make their ceiling and not accounting for the fact some will absolutely bust. It’s eerily identical.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 5 @ 9:48 PM ET
I don’t agree that Tortorella has the influence everyone makes him out to have. He’s just an easy villain. Briere is just not ready to be GM and is falling into the exact same mistakes Hextall made like putting too much stock into his own scouting acumen for the draft and believing all his young players will make their ceiling and not accounting for the fact some will absolutely bust. It’s eerily identical.
- psuhockey


regardless of what side of the coin you’re on, this is a solid post
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:55 PM ET
I don’t agree that Tortorella has the influence everyone makes him out to have. He’s just an easy villain. Briere is just not ready to be GM and is falling into the exact same mistakes Hextall made like putting too much stock into his own scouting acumen for the draft and believing all his young players will make their ceiling and not accounting for the fact some will absolutely bust. It’s eerily identical.
- psuhockey



Maybe Briere is ready, maybe he's not. There is zero doubt that Tortorella is the main influencer. That doesn't mean that he always gets his way but he obviously wins the battles he wants to go all in on. We know that Tortorella has Hilferty and Jones in his back pocket. Briere is either complicit and in agreement with them or he is just simply outvoted. Based on some of his most recent comments. I'm starting to heavily lean towards he is in agreement. The path that they will take moving forward is not hard to figure out. Especially with Michkov now on board. The rebuild is over. As soon as they can, when the cap is cleared up. They will escalate. This new era of orange will play out without the payoff and we'll be looking at another reset down the road. Before we know it, another decade of futility will be upon us. Only thing that can save us from the incompetence is if they get lucky in the draft. But that will have to be with more than one player.
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