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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
His dedication to fitness is a huge selling point. He’s younger and arguably in better shape than guys above him. Its a hard thing to instill in young players who want to make millions based off raw skill
- anti-lame


It is but just about all of them as they become professionals will catch up and realize they need to make their fitness paramount. Jett is just ahead of the game and is self driven. Great qualities but I think it can be overvalued when your still talking about kids
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 6 @ 1:38 PM ET
Chances are pretty good that SJ is in the running for first overall pick in 2025.
- MJL


Worst roster and it’s not close
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 6 @ 2:13 PM ET
Rod the Bod
Jett the ???

- 2Real


Jett the Met
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 6 @ 2:46 PM ET
No, I don't live in fantasy land, I simply don't look at things so negatively. I am rooting for Briere to succeed, not expecting him to fail. I am hoping that the Flyers build a great team, not expecting them to do the same ol' thing.

Yes, Briere stated when asked that he tried to move up, but the question came from the media who had heard rumors for weeks that the Flyers were trying to move up. Now I agree with you in one area, the Flyers wouldn't have to move up if they properly tank during the regular season in order to get a high pick. That is why it is REALLY important for the Flyers to take a significant step back this season in order to secure a top 10, even a top 5 pick. I agree with you and have stated previously that if the Flyers are picking 15th, 22nd and 27th, it does nothing to move the needle.

Briere and Jones both stated before the the draft that they would not be active in free agency this year because of the cap situation, but we all know it will improve greatly next season. They also stated that they are targeting the 2025 draft also, and their actions have backed that up. So I think they deserve a chance to execute at the trade deadline and the next draft and free agency, and then we can judge where the team is. I think getting flustered over not being part of free agent frenzy this year does you or I no good. Briere and Jones have a plan, they have stated that plan clearly, and everything they have done up to now has been consistent with that plan.

Finally, I completely disagree with you regarding Quitter. He wanted a guaranteed spot on the team and didn't like to hear that he would have to earn his spot. He is a entititle douchebag and I am actively rooting for him to fail miserably this year. I will state it again, Briere did nothing wrong. Just like Winnipeg has done nothing wrong with McGroarty.

- jd250


Rolling back the same squad plus Michkov….not seeing this as a step back season although I agree would be what a smart, well thought out plan should look like. I’m not seeing Briere implement that so far.
What tough decisions that they mentioned have they actually done? I know fully what they have said, which I’m good with….now if their actions would meet the rhetoric we might be in business.
As far as Quitter, I agree the Flyers aren’t fully at fault….just like I’m sure they aren’t fully at fault to getting nothing done this off season….just like they are not at fault for reaching in the first round and trading away draft capital to maybe grab the same pick next year in what might be a deeper draft…had they moved a Farabee, a Konecny, a Sanheim for another pick then I might agree that the rebuild plan is in full swing….they haven’t done that though.
Do I really care if they pick 8th or 12th next year ? Why would I if they are going to draft the 18th best prospect and reach again? After watching this disappointing off season I’m not going to blindly praise the new group just because they talk a good game….I will judge them on what they actually do and not brag about what they tried to do…
All that said I hope they do get this team going the other way…I’m not seeing a reason to be optimistic at this point…beyond Michkov.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
Rod the Bod
Jett the ???

- 2Real

If your name is Jett, you just leave it be. It’s a stand alone name.

It would be a cool nickname, but his parents blessed him with it right outta the box, so to speak.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 6 @ 3:46 PM ET
Rod the Bod
Jett the ???

- 2Real


Jett the regret
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:23 PM ET
Jett the regret
- Bayareaflyer


😆
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 6 @ 5:24 PM ET
That's all it is, is hope and faith. Blind faith



If they take a step back this season, it won't be due to their actions and planning. It will be due to other teams around them getting better.




The rebuild is over. They're just going to wait for the cap to clear up, they'll re-sign Konecny and as soon as they can, they'll escalate and start signing. That's their plan and it will lead to just more of the same.




You keep stating this and it is inaccurate. All Gauthier wanted is to be signed at the end of his first NCAA season and to play for the Flyers to burn the first year of his ELC. Like many other players. He did not ask the Flyers to guarantee him a future roster spot. Briere and the Flyers screwed up royally by not doing that. It's that simple. You continue to misread that situation. The McGroarty situation is not relevant and is completely different.

- MJL



I agree with all of this except 1 small detail and it’s an important one…
While yes the flyer more than likely screwed up by just not signing cutter in March after year 1 in college to burn that 1st year elc I don’t agree that it was a royal screw up.

Danny for whatever reason had the right under cba to send him back for 1mire year of college. I agree he should’ve just signed him but we don’t know for sure ALL the reasons he may not have wanted too. There’s rumors of cap overage but logically that doesn’t make sense as that’s not really an issue. There’s always something that could be done to deal with cap.

Maybe it was a combo of things who knows. At the end of the day the biggest mistake was trading him. Not not signing him in March
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 6 @ 6:15 PM ET
At #13. I don’t really have a problem in a vacuum drafting this type of player. Especially one that has elite skating ability. He has an elite trait, good enough I’ve relaxed. I was very high on Buium and was upset initially but he was what the 6th defenseman off the board? He dropped for some reason, 12 teams passed on him in just wondering what scared these teams away from him that we’re all not privy to
- Just5



Zeev didn’t drop. People need to stop saying this. There were 5/6 dmen projected to probably go top 10. There was celebrini lindstrom demigod and a few other forwards also projected to go probably top 10.


Not everyone was drafted dman. Obviously 1 went celebrini. We knew others were gonna take demigod and lindstrom and other may take those other forwards. Which some did. So none of the dmen “dropped”.


And people really need to stop with the zeev was the 6/6 dman taken why? Why did teams not take him.

NONE OF THE TOP 5/6 DMEN WERE A CONSESUS RATED TOP OF THAT BUNCH DMAN.

Here for example I’ll list some players:
Mackinnon
Bedard
Crosby
Jack Hughes
Aho
Etc etc etc.

If you’re drafting player it’s a matter of what you think you want to build with. Some rate this guy higher or that guy higher but as in example can’t really go wrong each way.


Take it to this draft. The dmen were different and all brought different elements. Will they all pan out? Who knows. Will they all be really good? Who knows?

It could’ve been any of those 6 dmen that fell to 12. That’s the point. So it doesn’t matter. You had a gift fall to 12 and philly passed. For a reach. Because of stupid reasons. And they will be crucified if zeev pans out better than Jett. Plain and simple.


But this narrative that something was wrong with zeev or he “dropped” or 11 other teams passed on him to justify or make excuse of the logic philly did is simply fake news
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 6 @ 6:50 PM ET
Worst roster and it’s not close
- Just5

Bottom 3 is the key 🔑
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 6 @ 6:53 PM ET
Anyone watching the scrimmage. How’s the Jett look? Anyone stand out?
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
The cutter situation really set us back. If he was still in the plans we’d all have a much more hopeful outlook. It’s only one player but we’d all be more excited about players like Bonk and Jett if we knew we had Michkov and Cutter.

I’m mad at both the team and cutter. why can’t we have nice things!?

- anti-lame

Ooh ooh 👋👋 because they are stuck on status quo philosophy. Because they refuse to do what any sane person knows needs to be done. Because they only care about profits from year to year. Because they have a extremely low iq fanbase like jd50 that sucks up every drop of jism they spew
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 6 @ 7:07 PM ET
Rolling back the same squad plus Michkov….not seeing this as a step back season although I agree would be what a smart, well thought out plan should look like. I’m not seeing Briere implement that so far.
What tough decisions that they mentioned have they actually done? I know fully what they have said, which I’m good with….now if their actions would meet the rhetoric we might be in business.
As far as Quitter, I agree the Flyers aren’t fully at fault….just like I’m sure they aren’t fully at fault to getting nothing done this off season….just like they are not at fault for reaching in the first round and trading away draft capital to maybe grab the same pick next year in what might be a deeper draft…had they moved a Farabee, a Konecny, a Sanheim for another pick then I might agree that the rebuild plan is in full swing….they haven’t done that though.
Do I really care if they pick 8th or 12th next year ? Why would I if they are going to draft the 18th best prospect and reach again? After watching this disappointing off season I’m not going to blindly praise the new group just because they talk a good game….I will judge them on what they actually do and not brag about what they tried to do…
All that said I hope they do get this team going the other way…I’m not seeing a reason to be optimistic at this point…beyond Michkov.

- landros 2



Only people that suck them off believe a word they are saying. Low iq people incapable of critical thinking. Everything they are doing shows the opposite of what they are saying. Like you said no reason for optimism until they do some things consistent with what they are trying to push to the base. Otherwise it’s it’s just one big ejaculation on the fanbase.


The smart thing is to see it cumming and (frank)ing move instead of running under the explosion head back mouth wide open like some do. Listen to jd 50 and asf. It’s unreal actually
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 6 @ 7:32 PM ET
Anyone watching the scrimmage. How’s the Jett look? Anyone stand out?
- Dkos


Barkey
Ruohonen
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 6 @ 7:58 PM ET
Jett is signed
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:05 PM ET
Jett is signed
- roenick97


Just saw this. Didn’t wait long to sign him.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 6 @ 8:10 PM ET
Just saw this. Didn’t wait long to sign him.
- Hextall271

What are the terms? We know Michkov is probably coming with every rookie bonus possible. They’re probably getting Jett as cheap as possible.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 6 @ 8:28 PM ET
Hey jd50 go listen to the latest stg that just dropped. You sound like asf. No offense but just like everyone on here cooks you. He’s definitely one of the idiots you listen to and think have the knowledge and can’t see what we describe as the local media being puppets for the front office. Russ rips into him like we all do to you. Its hilarious

Especially the last like 15-20 minutes
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:31 PM ET
Barkey
Ruohonen

- Glak18


Thanks. I caught a few minutes of the third. I agree Barkey was noticeable. Bjarnason made a few nice saves. Didn’t see much from Jett.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 8:40 PM ET
I agree with all of this except 1 small detail and it’s an important one…
While yes the flyer more than likely screwed up by just not signing cutter in March after year 1 in college to burn that 1st year elc I don’t agree that it was a royal screw up.

Danny for whatever reason had the right under cba to send him back for 1mire year of college. I agree he should’ve just signed him but we don’t know for sure ALL the reasons he may not have wanted too. There’s rumors of cap overage but logically that doesn’t make sense as that’s not really an issue. There’s always something that could be done to deal with cap.

Maybe it was a combo of things who knows. At the end of the day the biggest mistake was trading him. Not not signing him in March

- Stayin alive


If they had signed him in March, they wouldn't have been faced with the decision to trade him or not. It was a royal screw up. A colossal bungling of player handling.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 6 @ 9:06 PM ET
If they had signed him in March, they wouldn't have been faced with the decision to trade him or not. It was a royal screw up. A colossal bungling of player handling.
- MJL



If they had not traded him then the fact they didn’t sign him in March would not amounted to absolutely anything correct?

So if that’s the case then it’s not a royal mistake they didn’t sign him in March.

It may in hindsight been a bad move. A questionable decision for sure. But royal colossal mistake? Nope

That is designated for caving in and trading him. Which under cba they absolutely did not have to do
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Jul 6 @ 9:07 PM ET
Well, Laughton is a fine player to have on your back 6 if you’re a winning team, and likely nobody is willing to part with what the Flyers want. He's not that expensive, so I guess they’re comfortable with him as a locker room guys and dependable cheap option until the right deal comes along. If. If it comes along.

TK has more value, but I’m not sure if even the Flyers have decided what to do with him. My guess is he becomes a trade deadline guy, but who knows? I mentioned ages ago Zegras would be an interesting swap with him because of how deep the Ducks are with center but nothing else. Well, they’ve been attending to their wing needs since then. Savoie was another guy I was thinking of in a package deal, but as of today he’s off to Edmonton. Bring a jacket, kid.

That’s the thing with me. I don’t think they exactly know what to do with what they’ve got. They’re undecided instead of following a path.

- Hesh_

I would try to trade tk to Seattle for Shane wright and whatever else you could squeeze out of them
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 6 @ 9:21 PM ET
I would try to trade tk to Seattle for Shane wright and whatever else you could squeeze out of them
- SlNlSTER

They aren’t giving up wright for tk
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Jul 6 @ 9:25 PM ET
They aren’t giving up wright for tk
- Stayin alive

I would normally agree with you, but they just fired there coach for missing the playoffs, so they in win now mode and the keep send wright back down
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM ET
I would normally agree with you, but they just fired there coach for missing the playoffs, so they in win now mode and the keep send wright back down
- SlNlSTER

What? They are in win now mode? Ya nutz? They’ve been in the league how many years? They aren’t in win now mode.
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