On the night before he NHL debut. Not just some random practice. That’s pretty telling. Imagine being late to work on your first day because you were out all night? Now imagine a team has invested so much time and capital developing you and then when you’re ready to start you’re out late the night before what should be the most important thing in your life to date?
- Stripes77

so, he was out with krebs? and then got in a fight with krebs the next day? is that right?

So Savoie had a "blame them, not me" attitude? In this potential reality, no wonder they traded him.
- TheSabresTaco

OK, a kid not having thoughts isn't allowed. Whatever hope it Works out. About all is left

That's fine, doesn't mean using a Former Top 10 pick who was ranked in the Top 2 by most in your prospect pool was good asset management. Just shows Adams waited to long to use a Asset. Hope it works and am not against McLeod cause there some potential there.
- Buff36

Trading the early second for a player that is bad at everything, except being fast, is worse than trading for a good 3C for Savoie. Change my mind

You don't think Savoie had those thoughts, especially seeing Benson make it ?
- Buff36

You mean earned it over him?

so, he was out with krebs? and then got in a fight with krebs the next day? is that right?
- TheSabresTaco

Blamed Krebs for him being late.

Revolutionary history

The old guys were here to teach the youngest team in the league on and off ice

Complaining about last season doesn’t change this offseasons interesting moves
- Boss34

Yep, OK

On the night before he NHL debut. Not just some random practice. That’s pretty telling. Imagine being late to work on your first day because you were out all night? Now imagine a team has invested so much time and capital developing you and then when you’re ready to start you’re out late the night before what should be the most important thing in your life to date?
- Stripes77

I agree, but these guys are privileged teens

They make mistakes.

Savoies injuries are what got him traded imo

The Sabres needed a 3c next year and found an upgrade to the roster

Good for them

You mean earned it over him?
- Stripes77

He could have, what does that have anything to do with what He thinks.

Trading the early second for a player that is bad at everything, except being fast, is worse than trading for a good 3C for Savoie. Change my mind
- SDSabre

Not gonna change your mind, it's already made up with this post.
But you won't change my mind about Savoie and the asset Management. Especially when you knew about Savoie last off-season.

I never really bought into the hype of savoie so this move doesn’t give me heartburn.

I will say that I’m having much more fun thinking about what a decent (great with 1-2 more moves) nhl roster will play like instead of the last decade of “let’s see how XXXX prospect develops this year”

He could have, what does that have anything to do with what He thinks.
- Buff36

If that’s what Savoie thinks then it’s best to be done with him anyway.

If that’s what Savoie thinks then it’s best to be done with him anyway.
- Stripes77

Fine, that still doesn't mean it was good asset management. Hopefully McLeod works and blossoms. But you knew about Savoie last offseason, why wait and let his supposed value drop more.

Not gonna change your mind, it's already made up with this post.
But you won't change my mind about Savoie and the asset Management. Especially when you knew about Savoie last off-season.
- Buff36

So just so we’re all clear, you’re upset that this trade didn’t happen sooner (or a variation of it) because he (KA) wasted essentially 2 seasons with garbage one year deals on bad players in the bottom six. Maybe he had been shopping Savoie that long and finally got something worthy. Kulich, Ostlund, Wahlberg, and now Helenius all seem to have similar upside (as far as total impact). Using 1 in Savoie to get a guy who can actually impact defensively and on the PK is substantial, not forcing Tage, a superior offensive talent to Savoie btw, to focus more on that side. Farrari Sabres 2.0 is being loaded imo. The roster is actually built like an NHL team, with a ton of assets still in the chamber.

If it would piss him off, then his Agent hasn't explained how Arb works.
- IonSabres

Arb's not a pretty picture for goalies. The comps just aren't there for him to get much.

Sounds like Kev is willing to fight a bit on this one. Glad to see it.

Fine, that still doesn't mean it was good asset management. Hopefully McLeod works and blossoms. But you knew about Savoie last offseason, why wait and let his supposed value drop more.
- Buff36

In what sense? Buf got an actual good NHL defending forward with elite speed and PK abilities. Seems like Buf traded potential elite offensive upside for proven elite defensive play, something desperately needed with plenty still to fill out the top 6.

- washedup20

Good one

That's fine, doesn't mean using a Former Top 10 pick who was ranked in the Top 2 by most in your prospect pool was good asset management. Just shows Adams waited to long to use a Asset. Hope it works and am not against McLeod cause there some potential there.
- Buff36

Why does where he was picked matter and clearly that is not true.

Been stated GM's were asking for Whalberg over Savoie... y'know the 39th pick. The top 40 guy. the second rounder.

In what sense? Buf got an actual good NHL defending forward with elite speed and PK abilities. Seems like Buf traded potential elite offensive upside for proven elite defensive play, something desperately needed with plenty still to fill out the top 6.
- SDSabre

Blamed Krebs for him being late.
- Stripes77

Woooow

So just so we’re all clear, you’re upset that this trade didn’t happen sooner (or a variation of it) because he (KA) wasted essentially 2 seasons with garbage one year deals on bad players in the bottom six. Maybe he had been shopping Savoie that long and finally got something worthy. Kulich, Ostlund, Wahlberg, and now Helenius all seem to have similar upside (as far as total impact). Using 1 in Savoie to get a guy who can actually impact defensively and on the PK is substantial, not forcing Tage, a superior offensive talent to Savoie btw, to focus more on that side. Farrari Sabres 2.0 is being loaded imo. The roster is actually built like an NHL team, with a ton of assets still in the chamber.
- SDSabre

Mad because of those Garbage six players brought back. And Sorry if I want more from a former Top 10 pick in a trade then a 30pt 3C at this point. And Savoie was coveted in a few Trades that Adams said NO to because he wanted Savoie. He did his job and rebuilt the Bottom 6 that he could have started years earlier. Could have probably traded Savoie for a better bottom 6 last year if they thought so lowly of him.

Why does where he was picked matter and clearly that is not true.

Been stated GM's were asking for Whalberg over Savoie... y'know the 39th pick. The top 40 guy. the second rounder.

- DirtyDan

Yes now, if they knew about Savoie last off-season, why wait and let his value drop more. And Savoie was coveted in trades the last 2 off-seasons that Adams said NO to cause at that time he wanted to keep him.

Hey, I got one. Maybe Savoie is really good but got sick of being jerk around and caring about a badly run organization.
- Buff36

Is he sick of his shoulder being jerked around?

Yes now, if they knew about Savoie last off-season, why wait and let his value drop more. And Savoie was covered in trades the last 2 off-seasons that Adams said NO to cause at that time he wanted to keep him.
- Buff36

Then he got hurt... again

Mad because of those Garbage six players brought back. And Sorry if I want more from a former Top 10 pick in a trade then a 30pt 3C at this point. And Savoie was coveted in a few Trades that Adams said NO to because he wanted Savoie. He did his job and rebuilt the Bottom 6 that he could have started years earlier. Could have probably traded Savoie for a better bottom 6 last year if they thought so lowly of him.
- Buff36

If a #9 developed into a 25 point defensive 3C, you'd be disappointed.

It's a little odd after drafting a lower ceiling, higher floor, close to NHL ready, projected 3C a week earlier.

I'm just assuming they felt they had to move Savoie this summer.