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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 9 @ 6:10 PM ET
Let’s take the trade that happened , not a fictional trade.

Sabres tried hard to get a 3c trade at the draft
Sabres tried hard to get a 3c via free agency
Sabres still needed a 3c

The demand was still there, the supply was less

The price was higher

Sabres overpaid based on needing a 3c for next season

- Boss34


With all due respect, this is terrible logic. They had been trying to get a 3C for weeks, including at the draft. Eventually the prices became known, and they pulled the trigger. Anything beyond that is pure speculation. For all we know, they got exactly the guy that they wanted for a price they were comfortable paying.

Again, if there was a tax, it would be identified by the seller. Why would someone try to assign a tax and hurt their own chances of making a trade?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
side note, bought this smoker last week and it arrived today

took 20 minutes to assemble it and perhaps the best chicken I have ever had and was cooked in 2 and a half hours

used apple wood flavor

making ribs and pulled pork this weekend, takes longer to smoke those

250 bucks on amazon

https://www.masterbuilt.c...digital-electric-smoker-1

back to adamsbuzz

- homiedclown


This is the way: https://www.amazon.com/Cl...ker-Package/dp/B00BQMDZYY
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 6:24 PM ET
it's going to be a fun time on the back porch
- homiedclown

Yep, Smoke all year Round
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 9 @ 6:40 PM ET
I was trying to think of what the best example of what a "trade tax" might be, and I think I thought of one: Tim Murray, Chiarelli, etc. When other GMs know that your GM is a buffoon, they are going to try to rake you over the coals. I can almost picture the Kings GM giggling as he asks for even more assets in the Hudson Fasching trade. that takes real sack to keep asking for 2nd round picks in addition to the players.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 9 @ 6:46 PM ET
With all due respect, this is terrible logic. They had been trying to get a 3C for weeks, including at the draft. Eventually the prices became known, and they pulled the trigger. Anything beyond that is pure speculation. For all we know, they got exactly the guy that they wanted for a price they were comfortable paying.

Again, if there was a tax, it would be identified by the seller. Why would someone try to assign a tax and hurt their own chances of making a trade?

- Slump Buster


That’s fine, you brought up a couple good points
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 9 @ 8:25 PM ET
I was trying to think of what the best example of what a "trade tax" might be, and I think I thought of one: Tim Murray, Chiarelli, etc. When other GMs know that your GM is a buffoon, they are going to try to rake you over the coals. I can almost picture the Kings GM giggling as he asks for even more assets in the Hudson Fasching trade. that takes real sack to keep asking for 2nd round picks in addition to the players.
- Slump Buster



If Malenstyn has the same length/impact of a career as DLo, are we happy with spending a 2nd? 700 games in the NHL (that kind of blows my mind)
danimal6777
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Hell , MI
Joined: 09.15.2009

Jul 9 @ 8:43 PM ET
Why would they bring Lindy Ruff back? The guy has been an abject failure his entire career.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 8:49 PM ET
If Malenstyn has the same length/impact of a career as DLo, are we happy with spending a 2nd? 700 games in the NHL (that kind of blows my mind)
- Hank Balling

Guess it depends on what Cole Hutson turns into, sure would have liked Cernak with one of those 2nds
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 9 @ 9:01 PM ET
Why would they bring Lindy Ruff back? The guy has been an abject failure his entire career.
- danimal6777


Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 9 @ 10:00 PM ET
Why would they bring Lindy Ruff back? The guy has been an abject failure his entire career.
- danimal6777


Oh, I don't know... maybe the 5th most wins of any coach all-time (Maurice just passed him). And speaking of Maurice, Ruff has a better career win percentage than him. But I am sure you said the same thing about Maurice, right?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 9 @ 10:01 PM ET
If Malenstyn has the same length/impact of a career as DLo, are we happy with spending a 2nd? 700 games in the NHL (that kind of blows my mind)
- Hank Balling


For a second? Absolutely. And it amazing how long Deslauries has hung around. He was never much of a player, but he is as gritty as they come.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 9 @ 10:21 PM ET
For a second? Absolutely. And it amazing how long Deslauries has hung around. He was never much of a player, but he is as gritty as they come.
- Slump Buster


BuffaloHerd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Southern Tier, NY
Joined: 07.06.2024

Jul 9 @ 10:44 PM ET
Let’s take the trade that happened , not a fictional trade.

Sabres tried hard to get a 3c trade at the draft
Sabres tried hard to get a 3c via free agency
Sabres still needed a 3c

The demand was still there, the supply was less

The price was higher

Sabres overpaid based on needing a 3c for next season

- Boss34



I believe that when you go after players that a team is activity trying to trade then they take the best offer. When you go after players that teams are not looking to part with, they typically want more than fair value. I don't believe Washington was looking to trade Beck (his cap hit wasn't going to be an issue) and the same with McLeod (I believe Edmon still needs to move money out). I don't believe its a Buffalo tax (although it maybe easier extract more out of Adams than the average GM when wants one of your players).
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jul 9 @ 11:31 PM ET
just got the text

its chiquorin
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:33 PM ET
just got the text

its chiquorin

- 3rd GM's the charm

Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 10 @ 12:10 AM ET
just got the text

its chiquorin

- 3rd GM's the charm

How bout that. I figured it said something to the effect your posting privileges have been REVOKED! Any attempt to create an alternate account would result in a permaban.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:16 AM ET
I ripped him because he deserved it. I also stated many times, I was waiting for the week to close out. And he's still not done in my opinion.

But the whining is absolutely out of control here, considering the areas he actually addressed.

If we're going to continue to whine about the lack of a top 6 trade, fine. He didn't do his job as of this minute.

But the job he did do up to this point to address real needs was actually decent.

- TheSabresTaco


That's all fair.

I remain mystified by the Malenstyn trade.

Having it leak out that Appert shared they were scared of him in the AHL is astoundingly humorous.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:30 AM ET
Agree 100%. It was a desperation move. That being said, what was best for the franchise isn't always going to be the best for a GM on the hot seat. That's all.

We can be happy we brought in a player of need, not about the cost of doing so. That is a glaringly bad trade. We need to hope Savoie completely busts out in order to win this one IMO.

- QuinnFan


If the Sabres make the playoffs each of the next 2 seasons and McLeod plays a part in that, respectfully, who gives a (frank) if Savoie is a 20 goal, 50 point player in Edmonton...?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 10 @ 6:04 AM ET
These moves were different….Adams finally has purpose and identity:

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 10 @ 6:12 AM ET
If the Sabres make the playoffs each of the next 2 seasons and McLeod plays a part in that, respectfully, who gives a (frank) if Savoie is a 20 goal, 50 point player in Edmonton...?
- kingcong39

Well we Hope
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Jul 10 @ 6:13 AM ET
How bout that. I figured it said something to the effect your posting privileges have been REVOKED! Any attempt to create an alternate account would result in a permaban.
- Hatboro_Swords


I believe we will be goo this year.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 10 @ 6:16 AM ET
These moves were different….Adams finally has purpose and identity:


- washedup20

Well Hopefully the Savior can give them a identity. And how long does it take for them to take on that identity.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 10 @ 7:29 AM ET
Well Hopefully the Savior can give them a identity. And how long does it take for them to take on that identity.
- Buff36


wahlberg is one of those 'identity' guys that had his value inflated by the Panthers winning the cup. Like a Sam Bennett or Alex Killorn.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 10 @ 7:30 AM ET
just got the text

capfriendly is dead.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 10 @ 7:31 AM ET
wahlberg is one of those 'identity' guys that had his value inflated by the Panthers winning the cup. Like a Sam Bennett or Alex Killorn.
- TheSabresTaco

Talking about Ruff and putting the pieces together and forming that identity. Hopefully it doesn't take long for that to come together on the ice.
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