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@utahhockeyclub's first-ever draft pick, Tij Iginla, has signed his entry-level contract!

Im fine with Mcleod
- DirtyDan

Honestly curious about what everyone thinks of Kakko, I have not watch him and only know thus far he appears to have under achieved. Wondering what's he worth in our eyes and if he's worth the gamble (I'm sure NYR fans will overvalue him in a trade if I asked them).

Honestly curious about what everyone thinks of Kakko, I have not watch him and only know thus far he appears to have under achieved. Wondering what's he worth in our eyes and if he's worth the gamble (I'm sure NYR fans will overvalue him in a trade if I asked them).
- BuffaloHerd

He hasn't lived up to his potential in the slightest, he only averages .05 more points per game than McLeod does and McLeod was brought here for his defensive play.

Wouldn't make sense to trade Savoie for someone who is an older version of Savoie IMO opinion of course

Would Savoie have gotten us Kaapo Kakko? and would we want him (does he have 2nd line potential at this point)?
- BuffaloHerd

I rather have McLeod to be perfectly honest. Now, I'd be willing to take a chance on Kakka, but (a) wouldn't pay a lot and (b) prefer at least a half dozen more proven guys over him.

He hasn't lived up to his potential in the slightest, he only average .05 more points per game than McLeod does and McLeod was brought here for his defensive play.

Wouldn't make sense to trade Savoie for someone who is an older version of Savoie IMO opinion of course
- Stripes77

Thanks, so not a good consideration for our 2nd line void.

https://archive.ph/wKs5f

Some good insight on the offseason so far mainly:


Pronman said Savoie was fourth and wrote, “I also don’t think Savoie’s trade value is all that high in the NHL based on my survey of teams.”
So maybe getting a third-line center for him isn’t a bad return. Savoie could absolutely blossom into a legitimate top-six NHLer. He knows how to play with top-end talent and has been a prolific scorer in junior hockey. He still needs to develop the playing strength to win puck battles and make plays on the walls. He’s going to have a great chance at success if he gets to play with some of Edmonton’s top players. And the Sabres have plenty of depth in their prospect pool to withstand this loss.

Thanks, so not a good consideration for our 2nd line void.
- BuffaloHerd

He has the skill set but hasn't been able to put it together. If he was our 2nd line answer then we are in big trouble. I would rather run with Zucker or Benson on the 2nd line than him.

Would Savoie have gotten us Kaapo Kakko? and would we want him (does he have 2nd line potential at this point)?
- BuffaloHerd

Kakko is closer to a complete bust than a 2nd liner. Rangers basically gave him a 1year move it or lose it deal.

https://archive.ph/wKs5f

Some good insight on the offseason so far mainly:


Pronman said Savoie was fourth and wrote, “I also don’t think Savoie’s trade value is all that high in the NHL based on my survey of teams.”
So maybe getting a third-line center for him isn’t a bad return. Savoie could absolutely blossom into a legitimate top-six NHLer. He knows how to play with top-end talent and has been a prolific scorer in junior hockey. He still needs to develop the playing strength to win puck battles and make plays on the walls. He’s going to have a great chance at success if he gets to play with some of Edmonton’s top players. And the Sabres have plenty of depth in their prospect pool to withstand this loss.
- Shadman306

This can’t possibly be true, after all the recent hockeybuzz posts

Savoie is the best prospect on the planet and Adams is very bald

Example:

Homie was saying evander Kane was was decent. When I said the oilers bottom 6 looks like poo.

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- Sabretooth9

how many guys scored 24 goals or more last season?

the answer is 90

there is 32 teams in the nhl so the first 96 guys are scoring at top line production, which kane did

Complain and cry at each other about hockey

Politics stay out.
- Stripes77

Kakko is closer to a complete bust than a 2nd liner. Rangers basically gave him a 1year move it or lose it deal.
- QuinnFan

Wow didn't know he had reached that point, would he offer lower value to the Sabres than Krebs?

Would Savoie have gotten us Kaapo Kakko? and would we want him (does he have 2nd line potential at this point)?
- BuffaloHerd

he'd get us 3 kakkos

- TheSabresTaco

screw the poor

Wow didn't know he had reached that point, would he offer lower value to the Sabres than Krebs?
- BuffaloHerd

no

This!
- stashu

Your mom goes to college

he'd get us 3 kakkos
- TheSabresTaco

I keep reading Rangers are in on Zegras, and assumed Kakko would be one of the main pieces they'd offer (Kakko, another good roster player with 5+ mil cap hit, and 1st rd pick). I guess we can assume Rangers may have interest in Zegras but are not a realistic trade candidate.

I keep reading Rangers are in on Zegras, and assumed Kakko would be one of the main pieces they'd offer (Kakko, another good roster player with 5+ mil cap hit, and 1st rd pick). I guess we can assume Rangers may have interest in Zegras but are not a realistic trade candidate.
- BuffaloHerd

IF we're interested in Zegras, and despite what Gerbe says, I do not think we are, we could make a much better offer than the rags. Something like:

Kulich - better prospect than the rags could offer
2025 1st (higher 1st than the rags have
Rosen
Krebs
A defenseman prospect like RJO

Wow didn't know he had reached that point, would he offer lower value to the Sabres than Krebs?
- BuffaloHerd

Not sure, but that's probably comparable. I'm higher on Krebs than most though, so might be the wrong person to say.

IF we're interested in Zegras, and despite what Gerbe says, I do not think we are, we could make a much better offer than the rags. Something like:

Kulich - better prospect than the rags could offer
2025 1st (higher 1st than the rags have
Rosen
Krebs
A defenseman prospect like RJO
- turbo044

That's a big overpay IMO. That's better than we got for Jack to put it in perspective.

That's a big overpay IMO. That's better than we got for Jack to put it in perspective.
- QuinnFan

Perhaps, just a guess. Don't fall into the trap of overvaluing our prospects. Kulich is the only one that would hurt

Jack's salary was also $10million, where Zegras has 2 years left at half of that then RFA

That's a big overpay IMO. That's better than we got for Jack to put it in perspective.
- QuinnFan

I would do that deal without shipping out one of Rosen or RyJo

You overpay for someone custom made to fit the roster hole

IF we're interested in Zegras, and despite what Gerbe says, I do not think we are, we could make a much better offer than the rags. Something like:

Kulich - better prospect than the rags could offer
2025 1st (higher 1st than the rags have
Rosen
Krebs
A defenseman prospect like RJO
- turbo044

If you are right and we don't trade away Kulich, do we get to have more than 23 players for the Global games? Wondering if they would bring Kulich and have him play in Czechia.

Perhaps, just a guess. Don't fall into the trap of overvaluing our prospects. Kulich is the only one that would hurt

Jack's salary was also $10million, where Zegras has 2 years left at half of that then RFA
- turbo044

I disagree. Losing RyJo and Kulich in that deal is too much to part with. I thought RyJo looked pretty good in his limited time last year and he's still got plenty of upside. If Kevo uses those 5 pieces on Zegras, that is a big overpayment imo.

I saw someone posted a suggestion sending Krebs, a 2nd rounder and Ostlund for Farabee and that to me is more realistic but also an overpay.

That's a big overpay IMO. That's better than we got for Jack to put it in perspective.
- QuinnFan

I agree, maybe that's what Ducks would like but doubt he gets trade if they hold firm.

I would think we would offer:
2025 1st rd pick (top 10 protected)
Wahlberg or Kulich (not both)
Krebs
McCarthy