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QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 11 @ 1:06 PM ET
Perhaps, just a guess. Don't fall into the trap of overvaluing our prospects. Kulich is the only one that would hurt

Jack's salary was also $10million, where Zegras has 2 years left at half of that then RFA

- turbo044


I'm not too sue Kulich for Zegras is anything but a speed up trade. I don't think Zegras is THAT guy anyways.

Jack was in a different stratosphere in terms of value. I don't think that's debatable but can agree to disagree on cost.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 11 @ 1:08 PM ET
I would do that deal without shipping out one of Rosen or RyJo

You overpay for someone custom made to fit the roster hole

- Shadman306


I hear ya, seems like there's a big variance in perspective on Zegras. Personally, I'm not sure I'd be overjoyed to get him regardless of the cost. I mean Kulich for Zegras, to me is meh, due to the kid's attitude and shotty play/injury last year.
Shadman306
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Joined: 06.11.2015

Jul 11 @ 1:10 PM ET
I hear ya, seems like there's a big variance in perspective on Zegras. Personally, I'm not sure I'd be overjoyed to get him regardless of the cost. I mean Kulich for Zegras, to me is meh, due to the kid's attitude and shotty play/injury last year.
- QuinnFan


I’m at the point where I don’t really care who they get for the top 6 as long as they get one
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 11 @ 1:15 PM ET
Kulich training with Dahlin, Power, Peterka, Samuelsson, Joker, UPL maybe others in Switzerland
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 11 @ 1:16 PM ET
I’m at the point where I don’t really care who they get for the top 6 as long as they get one
- Shadman306


Yep, if KA got at top 6 three things would happen:
1. Everyone would be thrilled we got a top 6
2. Most would say KA overpaid
3. Too many would move on to the we desperately need a top 4 Dman
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 11 @ 1:19 PM ET
IF we're interested in Zegras, and despite what Gerbe says, I do not think we are, we could make a much better offer than the rags. Something like:

Kulich - better prospect than the rags could offer
2025 1st (higher 1st than the rags have
Rosen
Krebs
A defenseman prospect like RJO

- turbo044


5 first round picks for Trevor Zegras aint it
BuffaloHerd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Southern Tier, NY
Joined: 07.06.2024

Jul 11 @ 1:19 PM ET
I hear ya, seems like there's a big variance in perspective on Zegras. Personally, I'm not sure I'd be overjoyed to get him regardless of the cost. I mean Kulich for Zegras, to me is meh, due to the kid's attitude and shotty play/injury last year.
- QuinnFan


I am also not a big Zegras fan and would rather go after someone else, just seems like its him or nothing, but this could all change tomorrow with a new name being put out there.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 11 @ 1:26 PM ET
I’m at the point where I don’t really care who they get for the top 6 as long as they get one
- Shadman306


That's fair. We need to get more goals in the lineup and he would help with that. I go back and forth because I'm not sure we make the playoffs even with that addition and I think a new GM (an average one) would make better trades than Adams can produce. Retention of ammo if you will.

I can see it both ways.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 11 @ 1:36 PM ET
I'm not too sue Kulich for Zegras is anything but a speed up trade. I don't think Zegras is THAT guy anyways.

Jack was in a different stratosphere in terms of value. I don't think that's debatable but can agree to disagree on cost.

- QuinnFan


Jack's value was also at an all-time low, so it's tough to compare that one to anything.

Sabres are really bad at trading. Painful to remember some of these.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 1:40 PM ET
he'd get us 3 kakkos
- TheSabresTaco

So how many McLeod's should Savoie have gotten ? Since Kappo has done things McLeod hasn't.
riptheguard
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.08.2005

Jul 11 @ 1:41 PM ET
So we have our captain on the roster yet? Dahlin gonna get it or is someone not on the team yet the guy?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 1:48 PM ET
So how many McLeod's should Savoie have gotten ? Since Kappo has done things McLeod hasn't.
- Buff36


Kappo has done things McLeod hasn’t???

Kappo averages .05 points per game than McLeod. Point Zero Five. Not a half point per game. Half of a half of a point per game. .39 for Kappo, .34 for McLeod.

McLeod does thinks Kappo can’t do.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
So how many McLeod's should Savoie have gotten ? Since Kappo has done things McLeod hasn't.
- Buff36


Like not being scored on on the PK allllll damn playoffs?... oh wait that was McLeod
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
So how many McLeod's should Savoie have gotten ? Since Kappo has done things McLeod hasn't.
- Buff36


Like not being scored on on the PK allllll damn playoffs?... oh wait that was McLeod
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 11 @ 1:51 PM ET
I am also not a big Zegras fan and would rather go after someone else, just seems like its him or nothing, but this could all change tomorrow with a new name being put out there.
- BuffaloHerd


Yeah, I'd rather wait, but totally get it. We do have some talent and we're wasting Dahlin and Tage when we can't bring in a better supporting cast. Then again, I will hope that new name pops up too lol.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 1:52 PM ET
Kappo has done things McLeod hasn’t???

Kappo averages .05 points per game than McLeod. Point Zero Five. Not a half point per game. Half of a half of a point per game. .39 for Kappo, .34 for McLeod.

McLeod does thinks Kappo can’t do.

- Stripes77

OK, has McLeod scored more than 15 goals, has McLeod ever broke 20 Assists. If we are going of potential and what we hope they can do.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 1:55 PM ET
Like not being scored on on the PK allllll damn playoffs?... oh wait that was McLeod
- DirtyDan

OK, Kakko isn't a black hole defensively.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 11 @ 1:55 PM ET
OK, has McLeod scored more than 15 goals, has McLeod ever broke 20 Assists. If we are going of potential and what we hope they can do.
- Buff36


McLeod was the 40th pick overall (or something like that), Kakko was 2nd overall. Kakko is a bust
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 1:55 PM ET
Kappo has done things McLeod hasn’t???

Kappo averages .05 points per game than McLeod. Point Zero Five. Not a half point per game. Half of a half of a point per game. .39 for Kappo, .34 for McLeod.

McLeod does thinks Kappo can’t do.

- Stripes77

the gap between mcleod playing third line at .342 ppg is not much different from krebs playing with 2 pylons at .307 ppg

turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 11 @ 1:56 PM ET
Yeah, I'd rather wait, but totally get it. We do have some talent and we're wasting Dahlin and Tage when we can't bring in a better supporting cast. Then again, I will hope that new name pops up too lol.
- QuinnFan


In all fairness, Tage wasted Tage's abilities last year. Granted, injuries played into that I would hope
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 1:57 PM ET
McLeod was the 40th pick overall (or something like that), Kakko was 2nd overall. Kakko is a bust
- turbo044

is kakko a bust like power

or a bust like rosen

turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 11 @ 1:57 PM ET
the gap between mcleod playing third line at .342 ppg is not much different from krebs playing with 2 pylons at .307 ppg
- homiedclown


Speed and PK are the difference here
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 11 @ 1:58 PM ET
is kakko a bust like power

or a bust like rosen

- homiedclown


Neither Power or Rosen is a bust. Kakko is a bust like Alex Nylander is a bust
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
McLeod was the 40th pick overall (or something like that), Kakko was 2nd overall. Kakko is a bust
- turbo044

For a bust he's already outscored McLeod
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 11 @ 2:05 PM ET
Jack's value was also at an all-time low, so it's tough to compare that one to anything.

Sabres are really bad at trading. Painful to remember some of these.

- Lunaion


I'd probably say Zegras' value is at an all time low as well, so they are comparable to some extent, but I get it.

Interesting too how this has changed. We used to be decent at trades, waiting a long time but getting the right deal, but were absolutely awful at drafting. Now our drafting has improved and our trades are just nightmarish. I know the regimes have changed, so it's understandable, but amazing that we bounced between polar opposites.
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