I respect where you’re coming from. Tarasenko, to me, along with a full season of Kane is a boost for the top 6. Perron is slowing down, Fabbri has “the bug” unfortunately. There is a presumed addition of Berggren at this point. The goals Fabbri, Perron and Sprong added can be touched on by Tarasenko, Berggren and 25-30 more games from Kane. Edvinsson didn’t look “out of place” in his extended time in Detroit and is certainly a better/faster skater than what the 2nd pairing was seeing before him. At this point, we are speculating as best we can. I think the coach makes poor decisions on personnel, but the office seems pretty unhappy with Husso. I don’t think Reimer and Talbot is lateral but that is, again, opinion. Camp will play itself out and we’ll see what the team looks like in the pre season and season. If I’m wrong, I’ll own it and give you and others props. There is plenty of criticism regarding Yzerman right now and it can’t be waived off. However, I do think some of it is overblown and some of his picks and development don’t get enough credit.
- Jeremy Laura

Perron is slowing down but he was very good at battling along the boards taking pucks away and keeping them to make plays. Wings don't have a lot of that at all.

You really think 30 more games (assuming Kane stays healthy), Tarasenko and Berggren is going to make up for losing the offense from Perron, Sprong, Fabbri and Ghost. I might be wrong but i don't think it does. Wings are going to need more guys to step up their games imo to be equal to last years team.

Same thing also applies as last year, IF they lose Seider or Larkin to long term injuries they will sink to the bottom pretty fast. We saw what happened when Larkin went down but i think it would be even worst if Seider missed a month or two.

You sure hate Ras! I would not send anyone to Whinny! (Except Holl, but I am sure that is on his no-trade list!)

- HenryHockey

Don’t hate him as he’s gotten better about his stupid penalties but that’s an easy trade to make for the wings.

Perron is slowing down but he was very good at battling along the boards taking pucks away and keeping them to make plays. Wings don't have a lot of that at all.

You really think 30 more games (assuming Kane stays healthy), Tarasenko and Berggren is going to make up for losing the offense from Perron, Sprong, Fabbri and Ghost. I might be wrong but i don't think it does. Wings are going to need more guys to step up their games imo to be equal to last years team.

Same thing also applies as last year, IF they lose Seider or Larkin to long term injuries they will sink to the bottom pretty fast. We saw what happened when Larkin went down but i think it would be even worst if Seider missed a month or two.
- dcz28

Offense will not be the problem.

Also the Seider and Larkin thing applies for like 95% of teams. You lose your 1C or 1D to long term injuries and you usually suck.

Perron - 17 goals and 30 assists in 76 games.
Sprong - 18 goals, 25 assists in 76 games.
Fabbri - 18 goals 14 assists in 68 games.

Kane - 20 goals and 27 assists in 50 games
Tarasenko - 23 goals and 32 assists in 76 games.
Berggren - his total NHL games are 79 with 17 goals and 17 assists

53 goals for Perron Sprong and Fabbri
43 goals for Tarasenko and Kane
To offset the difference the combination of Berggren and Kane’s additional games would have to add 10 goals in terms of strictly goals. I don’t think Tarasenko is incapable of making similar power play impact as Perron.

*your point is absolutely correct in terms of injury. Injury can sideline a team’s season and we saw that with Larkin’s 7 game absence at the end. I just feel that the ability to replace the goals lost in the three players mentioned can be made up with the three forwards I compared them to

Offense will not be the problem.

Also the Seider and Larkin thing applies for like 95% of teams. You lose your 1C or 1D to long term injuries and you usually suck.
- Feds91Stammer

I firmly agree. Seider will have to have another iron man season and find chemistry with (?) Edvinsson will have to prove he deserves the promotion.

Offense will not be the problem.

Also the Seider and Larkin thing applies for like 95% of teams. You lose your 1C or 1D to long term injuries and you usually suck.
- Feds91Stammer

Some teams can manage that if they have good depth at that position. They won't be as good but they can still manage to win games. Wings couldn't win anything without Larkin and the thought of Petry playing top pair would mean a high lottery pick.

I firmly agree. Seider will have to have another iron man season and find chemistry with (?) Edvinsson will have to prove he deserves the promotion.
- Jeremy Laura

That's another thing about the defense. Who gets paired with Seider? Do you stick Edvinsson with him to go up against the other teams best players every night as a rookie? Chiarot showed he doesn't work well with Seider. Seider struggled with him while Hronek was having a great season...they switch Chiarot to Hronek and Seider played well and Hronek struggled. Gustafsson? Not a 1st pair guy to go up against top opponents...guess you can say Walman wasn't either but he had chemistry with Seider. Maatta maybe? Don't think you put Johansson in there as a rookie either.

This defense is all kinds of messed up. Just the wrong mix of defensemen that don't seem to pair well anywhere. If only they had gotten Trouba or Pesce, that would have at least provided an anchor for each pair. Try out different guys with Seider (not ideal) and have Edvinsson with a vet like Trouba/Pesce. 3rd pair Gus/Johansson and Petry/Holl (whichever not traded or waived).

That's another thing about the defense. Who gets paired with Seider? Do you stick Edvinsson with him to go up against the other teams best players every night as a rookie? Chiarot showed he doesn't work well with Seider. Seider struggled with him while Hronek was having a great season...they switch Chiarot to Hronek and Seider played well and Hronek struggled. Gustafsson? Not a 1st pair guy to go up against top opponents...guess you can say Walman wasn't either but he had chemistry with Seider. Maatta maybe? Don't think you put Johansson in there as a rookie either.

This defense is all kinds of messed up. Just the wrong mix of defensemen that don't seem to pair well anywhere. If only they had gotten Trouba or Pesce, that would have at least provided an anchor for each pair. Try out different guys with Seider (not ideal) and have Edvinsson with a vet like Trouba/Pesce. 3rd pair Gus/Johansson and Petry/Holl (whichever not traded or waived).
- dcz28

Did you read my comment above about goal replacement? I talked about the D pairings as well. We don’t know who gets paired with Seider, and unless he is dominant at camp I don’t think it will be Edvinsson. I address some of what you said just above

Did you read my comment above about goal replacement? I talked about the D pairings as well. We don’t know who gets paired with Seider, and unless he is dominant at camp I don’t think it will be Edvinsson. I address some of what you said just above
- Jeremy Laura

Sorry didn't see your post before i wrote mine. One thing you are missing is the production from Ghost 10 goals 56 points. Can the other guys like Gustafsson and Edvinsson pick up that slack? Maybe, hard to say who will play with who and how much time any of them will get. The only sure thing on this defense is Seider. Everyone else is a question mark as to how they fit in and what they can bring...not exactly what you want for a team looking to improve and make the playoffs.

Sorry didn't see your post before i wrote mine. One thing you are missing is the production from Ghost 10 goals 56 points. Can the other guys like Gustafsson and Edvinsson pick up that slack? Maybe, hard to say who will play with who and how much time any of them will get. The only sure thing on this defense is Seider. Everyone else is a question mark as to how they fit in and what they can bring...not exactly what you want for a team looking to improve and make the playoffs.
- dcz28

I do think between Gustafsson and Eddy they can fill in for Ghost’s points, but it brings into question the power play. These are all things we’ll be looking at in the fall for sure. Once I started crunching those numbers I actually felt better about what we were looking at.

I do think between Gustafsson and Eddy they can fill in for Ghost’s points, but it brings into question the power play. These are all things we’ll be looking at in the fall for sure. Once I started crunching those numbers I actually felt better about what we were looking at.
- Jeremy Laura

If neither guy gets top PP time or are on the 3rd pair getting less than 10 mins a night they won't be getting 30 points each.

I really don't like the defense. If Yzerman had addressed the top 4 RHD position then i would be ok with it although it still wouldn't be a top defense in the league but it would be an improvement. I don't see a defenseman to anchor the 2nd pair. Maybe Edvinsson but he's a rookie and that is a lot to ask of a rookie learning the NHL game on the fly.

If neither guy gets top PP time or are on the 3rd pair getting less than 10 mins a night they won't be getting 30 points each.

I really don't like the defense. If Yzerman had addressed the top 4 RHD position then i would be ok with it although it still wouldn't be a top defense in the league but it would be an improvement. I don't see a defenseman to anchor the 2nd pair. Maybe Edvinsson but he's a rookie and that is a lot to ask of a rookie learning the NHL game on the fly.
- dcz28

I dont think Eddy would stay without 2nd line mins. Points vs goals goes to primary vs secondary assist. In terms of goals do I think between those two players 10 goals can be gotten? Yes. Not necessarily on the power play. I would like a 2nd pair RHD, and hope that there are deals being discussed. That seems to be a role Sandin Pellikka could eventually fill. For this year, still no clue. I think we’re still far enough out that a move could happen, and if it doesn’t we need to see the team hit the ice with the changes made.

D is definitely an issue, major area that needs focus for sure. Minus Trouba, there's just not much left. I saw there was some indication of Barrie......good PP numbers, decent Give/Take-Away ratio. No way Eddy steps up to be Mo v2....well, let's say we'd be ill-advised to think he could be. No way,for sure, Johansson's gonna be "the" guy. Goals lost thus far vs goals gained seems pretty close, not losing sleep on that. Talbot's not the answer, think we can all agree on that. We either need a comprehensive sgut-down team D, or a trade to bri g in a dang good d-dude to take the heat off of Mo. Maatta's a good shut-down guy, his body of work over the past few years has been impressive when looking at the bigger picture. I've got no issues with him at all, other than he's slower.

Interested, PHR has 2 of the 3 remaining Top 10 UFAs being Zadina & Sprong....just interesting.

D is definitely an issue, major area that needs focus for sure. Minus Trouba, there's just not much left. I saw there was some indication of Barrie......good PP numbers, decent Give/Take-Away ratio. No way Eddy steps up to be Mo v2....well, let's say we'd be ill-advised to think he could be. No way,for sure, Johansson's gonna be "the" guy. Goals lost thus far vs goals gained seems pretty close, not losing sleep on that. Talbot's not the answer, think we can all agree on that. We either need a comprehensive sgut-down team D, or a trade to bri g in a dang good d-dude to take the heat off of Mo. Maatta's a good shut-down guy, his body of work over the past few years has been impressive when looking at the bigger picture. I've got no issues with him at all, other than he's slower.

Interested, PHR has 2 of the 3 remaining Top 10 UFAs being Zadina & Sprong....just interesting.
- mcmastermike1968

Definitely feels like the trade market was more interesting thus far this year, interesting to see what pans out before the fall. I think Eddy is a 2nd line guy, Mo was an anomaly in terms of just being ready quickly and seems to be pretty mature.

Shifting briefly back to broadcastbuzz:

Looks like the Dallas Stars are leaving broadcast/cable TV entirely and going to an entirely free (ad supported) streaming model for in-market fans.

Yes, it's another app you gotta download and, for the group of people still clinging to their pay TV subscriptions, less convenient that simply switching on the tube. And no, it doesn't solve the problem of national exclusive games still being split between ESPN/TNT.

But the streaming service is free. If you live in Texas (or other states considered in market for the Stars) you can watch all non-national Stars games at no cost, no subscription, no need to get a janky sketchy stream or VPN.

Still gotta nail the execution but this is potentially fantastic news if the model works and starts spreading to other markets. As somebody who cut the cord 15 years ago this is pretty much exactly what I've wanted for a long time for Red Wings games.

Shifting briefly back to broadcastbuzz:

Looks like the Dallas Stars are leaving broadcast/cable TV entirely and going to an entirely free (ad supported) streaming model for in-market fans.

Yes, it's another app you gotta download and, for the group of people still clinging to their pay TV subscriptions, less convenient that simply switching on the tube. And no, it doesn't solve the problem of national exclusive games still being split between ESPN/TNT.

But the streaming service is free. If you live in Texas (or other states considered in market for the Stars) you can watch all non-national Stars games at no cost, no subscription, no need to get a janky sketchy stream or VPN.

Still gotta nail the execution but this is potentially fantastic news if the model works and starts spreading to other markets. As somebody who cut the cord 15 years ago this is pretty much exactly what I've wanted for a long time for Red Wings games.
- Sven22

That was the impetus for the write up, the Dallas model. Don’t get too excited. It’s introduced as free to make sure as many customers as possible sign up. On the last Disney earnings call, they promised that at some point in 2025 the service would be profitable. Net loss of 14b. I’ll find the latest pie chart, but (without counting Youtube as streaming which seems dishonest) Netflix is the largest platform that makes a profit. Everyone else is catching up. The tiers keep going up in price because ad revenue for streaming is a fraction of cable/broadcast.

The most important part of Dallas is the sports population and overall density. Bally now loses all of those customers in terms of MRC from Direct, Charter and streaming. This adds to the urgency of other NBA and NHL clubs to find an alternative. The good news is that in some markets CBS local is open to doing a rebroadcast of the stream so it can appear on non streaming formats. The NBA isn’t as dinged by streaming as the NHL and their new deal kicks in 2026 making a combined 7.5B annually from the companies that share their package. NHL still at around 550m in the states. Hoping for an update in the next week or two

That was the impetus for the write up, the Dallas model. Don’t get too excited. It’s introduced as free to make sure as many customers as possible sign up. On the last Disney earnings call, they promised that at some point in 2025 the service would be profitable. Net loss of 14b. I’ll find the latest pie chart, but (without counting Youtube as streaming which seems dishonest) Netflix is the largest platform that makes a profit. Everyone else is catching up. The tiers keep going up in price because ad revenue for streaming is a fraction of cable/broadcast.

The most important part of Dallas is the sports population and overall density. Bally now loses all of those customers in terms of MRC from Direct, Charter and streaming. This adds to the urgency of other NBA and NHL clubs to find an alternative. The good news is that in some markets CBS local is open to doing a rebroadcast of the stream so it can appear on non streaming formats. The NBA isn’t as dinged by streaming as the NHL and their new deal kicks in 2026 making a combined 7.5B annually from the companies that share their package. NHL still at around 550m in the states. Hoping for an update in the next week or two
- Jeremy Laura

I don't think it's really fair to compare a hypothetical Dallas Stars-owned streaming service to Netflix or Disney Plus.

They are not spending billions creating original scripted content or purchasing broadcast rights from other studios' libraries. The per-game cost to produce a live hockey broadcast is extremely cheap compared to, say, making an episode of The Mandalorian.

The new model will not be as profitable as the old model. That's pretty much a given. But the old model doesn't work anymore, and I imagine the new model will still probably be net positive. And there are other benefits to having your TV broadcasts 100% under your own ownership and control.