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jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 7 @ 6:39 PM ET
Idk...I'd say Teuvo and Bertuzzi should contribute some scoring in your top 6 and moving guys like D!ckinson and Foligno into B6 roles vs playing in your top 6 should balance out the lines and the scoring. Don't see a playoff team but I think there will be some more goals and offense this year.
- HawkintheD


What would be a significant boost to offense is not only everyone stays healthy, but two scorers emerge. I nominates Hayes and their first round draft choice in ‘25. Some descent talent was added but not big time difference makers
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 7 @ 6:40 PM ET
There will be a trade or two before the season starts, not sure AA will be on the team and they’ll probably move a defenseman or two.
- Angotti


I just don't see it, who on the Hawks would anyone want to trade for, that they'd be willing to give up?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jul 7 @ 7:03 PM ET
I just don't see it, who on the Hawks would anyone want to trade for, that they'd be willing to give up?
- vabeachbear

They have multiple LHD under 23 years old, KD needs to figure out which ones to keep and which ones to move. Vlasic and KK aren’t going anywhere, two of the other four can be used in a trade along with Toronto’s 2025 pick, make Scott happy.
Vlasic
KK
Kaiser
Phillips
Allan
EDM
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 7 @ 7:08 PM ET
I just don't see it, who on the Hawks would anyone want to trade for, that they'd be willing to give up?
- vabeachbear

I nominate Korbumski.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 7 @ 7:55 PM ET
That will make Scott happy
- paulr

I do like trades, but only if it makes sense. 25 year old or younger player should be on Davidson radar
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 7 @ 8:00 PM ET
They have multiple LHD under 23 years old, KD needs to figure out which ones to keep and which ones to move. Vlasic and KK aren’t going anywhere, two of the other four can be used in a trade along with Toronto’s 2025 pick, make Scott happy.
Vlasic
KK
Kaiser
Phillips
Allan
EDM

- Angotti


Trading one of the bolded what do you think you're getting back?

Trading one of them and the Toronto pick, what do you think you are getting back?

Is this really how you think KD is handling the rebuild, or should?

Again, just don't see it.

I should add, I don't have a problem trading any of those 4, just don't think you're getting back anything that you would need now.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 7 @ 8:13 PM ET
I would assume it would be much easier to put on weight at MSU than Rockford.

Even though i would assume a better program in the pros, less games in college gives you more time. Playing a pro schedule doesn't give you as much time to work out and playing a pro schedule has to burn calories like mad (guess I need to get into pro hockey......)

- vabeachbear


I also think if you were 175lbs you definitely stay in college but over 200 already, play in the rock and he'll gain more experience since he's playing more games.

Wonder if KD will stay true to form and have Arty burn a year off his ELC? Probably
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 7 @ 8:20 PM ET
I also think if you were 175lbs you definitely stay in college but over 200 already, play in the rock and he'll gain more experience since he's playing more games.

Wonder if KD will stay true to form and have Arty burn a year off his ELC? Probably

- BetweenTheDots


His contract was signed after July 1, too late to burn a year.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 7 @ 8:27 PM ET
His contract was signed after July 1, too late to burn a year.
- LAHawk


I mean if he's going to let him play 10 games this season in the NHL?

I think it's great he signed with us, I'm hoping he has similar success as the last RD man who had a receding hairline drafted in the top 5.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jul 7 @ 8:38 PM ET
Trading one of the bolded what do you think you're getting back?

Trading one of them and the Toronto pick, what do you think you are getting back?

Is this really how you think KD is handling the rebuild, or should?

Again, just don't see it.

I should add, I don't have a problem trading any of those 4, just don't think you're getting back anything that you would need now.

- vabeachbear

You’re probably right, but sooner or later he’s going to move one or two of their prospects, can’t just keep adding picks forever, very hard to build a winner just through the draft. Need a mix of draft picks, trades and free agents. They have a great prospect group, let’s see what KD does with them in the next couple of years.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 7 @ 8:48 PM ET
You’re probably right, but sooner or later he’s going to move one or two of their prospects, can’t just keep adding picks forever, very hard to build a winner just through the draft. Need a mix of draft picks, trades and free agents. They have a great prospect group, let’s see what KD does with them in the next couple of years.
- Angotti


For now though this is how you try to build your core.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 7 @ 8:53 PM ET
You’re probably right, but sooner or later he’s going to move one or two of their prospects, can’t just keep adding picks forever, very hard to build a winner just through the draft. Need a mix of draft picks, trades and free agents. They have a great prospect group, let’s see what KD does with them in the next couple of years.
- Angotti


I agree, just don't think those guys are worth much.

now if you told me you could get Necas for one or two of them and Toronto's pick, then I'd probably do it.

just think whoever's traded for, has to fit a Sharp like profile, I guess they did get Sharp for less so who knows
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 9:25 PM ET
I agree, just don't think those guys are worth much.

now if you told me you could get Necas for one or two of them and Toronto's pick, then I'd probably do it.

just think whoever's traded for, has to fit a Sharp like profile, I guess they did get Sharp for less so who knows

- vabeachbear


Enter Mikheyev. 🤔
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jul 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
Apparently CapFriendly was still available as of 9:11pm Central, and I noticed that the Blackhawks page indicates that Taylor Hall and Connor Murphy both have been "cleared" from injury as of July 2nd and 1st respectively. Has anyone heard any updates from KD or the team on this front?
rickboardman
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Henderson, NV
Joined: 01.16.2016

Jul 7 @ 10:25 PM ET
Apparently CapFriendly was still available as of 9:11pm Central, and I noticed that the Blackhawks page indicates that Taylor Hall and Connor Murphy both have been "cleared" from injury as of July 2nd and 1st respectively. Has anyone heard any updates from KD or the team on this front?
- Chunk


I heard a few days ago that they expected everyone to be available when camp opens.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jul 7 @ 11:16 PM ET
Apparently CapFriendly was still available as of 9:11pm Central, and I noticed that the Blackhawks page indicates that Taylor Hall and Connor Murphy both have been "cleared" from injury as of July 2nd and 1st respectively. Has anyone heard any updates from KD or the team on this front?
- Chunk


Everyone is expected to be healthy for training camp as it stands.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:17 AM ET
I agree, just don't think those guys are worth much.

now if you told me you could get Necas for one or two of them and Toronto's pick, then I'd probably do it.

just think whoever's traded for, has to fit a Sharp like profile, I guess they did get Sharp for less so who knows

- vabeachbear


Gavin Hayes I think is similar to that sharp like player.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jul 8 @ 12:56 AM ET
What would be a significant boost to offense is not only everyone stays healthy, but two scorers emerge. I nominates Hayes and their first round draft choice in ‘25. Some descent talent was added but not big time difference makers
- jhawk59

Hawks could have had demidov and eiserman.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:56 AM ET
Gavin Hayes I think is similar to that sharp like player.
- fattybeef

Has worked to improve on some things. Good and.willing to pass or shoot. Solid player I hear. He had an extended look in both of hus training camps. I think they know this is a scoring forward who just needs to keep playing and moving closer to a pro career
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 8 @ 1:57 AM ET
Gavin Hayes I think is similar to that sharp like player.
- fattybeef

Has worked to improve on some things. Good and.willing to pass or shoot. Solid player I hear. He had an extended look in both of hus training camps. I think they know this is a scoring forward who just needs to keep playing and moving closer to a pro career
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 8 @ 3:01 AM ET
Hawks could have had demidov and eiserman.
- LFS

Shortly before the draft I decided I would take Demidov second and try to package the 18th with ? To get the 5th. Reportedly KD tried very hard to trade for the 5th, even offering up an unprotected first in '25. So if this is true then we can infer that KD really was interested in Demidov but wanted to draft a dman before trying to grab Demidov

I had hoped to find Eiserman available should we retain that draft spot.

Let us be honest: there was a team need at #2 for either Demidov or Levshunov and at #18 for our choice or Eiserman. Redrafts in future years can tell a story of mistakes and misjudgement. There is second guessing now, a year later, and whenever you have refrafts.

One other option by the way could have been to draft either Demidov or Eiserman, but not both
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 8 @ 7:42 AM ET
Hawks could have had demidov and eiserman.
- LFS

and be like Edmonton has been for years, no thank you.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 8 @ 8:48 AM ET
Hawks could have had demidov and eiserman.
- LFS

They don’t, get over it.
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:03 AM ET
So the insta-redraft is off, already? Damned timezone difference.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:12 AM ET
Shortly before the draft I decided I would take Demidov second and try to package the 18th with ? To get the 5th. Reportedly KD tried very hard to trade for the 5th, even offering up an unprotected first in '25. So if this is true then we can infer that KD really was interested in Demidov but wanted to draft a dman before trying to grab Demidov

I had hoped to find Eiserman available should we retain that draft spot.

Let us be honest: there was a team need at #2 for either Demidov or Levshunov and at #18 for our choice or Eiserman. Redrafts in future years can tell a story of mistakes and misjudgement. There is second guessing now, a year later, and whenever you have refrafts.

One other option by the way could have been to draft either Demidov or Eiserman, but not both

- jhawk59


From what i saw, Silayev would of been my choice. I believed they were going to select Demidov, but am happy they drafted Levshunov.

I hear comparisons to Pietro, Doughty even Hedman? If so that would be incredible, if true that would give us an experienced player in Seth Jones and 2 to 3 years Levshunov becomes the number 1 and reduces Jones minutes with Rinzel entering the picture

Levshunov, S Jones, Rinzel

Vlasic, Korchinski and so many competing for the LD position

We may have one of the best, if not the best blue line in the NHL.

Bedard is Bedard

Then you have all these scrappy excellent skating forwards competing not only for a spot on the team but against opponents. This is shaping up very nice.

We need to keep in mind there have been teams to win a Cup without having a point per game player on them, or having just one. Bedard is at least that one.
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