Flyers have minimal cap room, how are they gonna offer sheet anyone?
- BiggE

Oops sorry. I think my fat sausage finger hit the flag instead of quote. Was completely unintentional.

I get they don’t have cap space (although can go 10% over in the summer) but that presumes the Flyers get aggressive and creative which we know they have not demonstrated a willingness or ability to do it.

That being said, my question was about the wisdom of perhaps offer sheeting any of these guys vs the draft picks.

DB has a degree from Wharton. Do not doubt him.
- hello it's me 2050

Chuck went to Harvard. Think the Flyers really need to avoid Ivy League graduates

Chuck went to Harvard. Think the Flyers really need to avoid Ivy League graduates
- BiggE

Sensing a pattern....Lappy next GM

Jones pretty much said that was the intended plan in a recent interview.

He's also the one recently "joking" about the rebuild not really being a rebuild.
- Tomahawk

believe what you want to believe .. I watched the clip where he said this and Jones was clearly joking. I think the entire comment got blown eway out of proportion, but for those like you that just want to shout "A-ha!" it was gasoline on the fire.

No, I am going by exactly what they have said about freeing up cap space over the next few seasons.
- MBFlyerfan

Yes, but they didn't say anyhting that leads me to believe they have not learned from the mistakes of the franchise in the past.

You don’t view their talking points with any semblance of skepticism? It’s quite possible that the Flyers front office is being less than truthful. I means, potentially out of necessity, they told us last year there was nothing to be co serves about and they didnt. know why Quitter was not in prospect camp. Like I said, even if out of necessity to protect assets they weren’t completely truthful. So we’re ok with misrepresenting the facts in order to keep people from investing hundreds if not thousands of dollars in advertising, tickets, jerseys etc ?
- mikeyo27

I am going to wait and see. I like what they say. They seem to get it. They seem to be passionate about building this the right way, and not selling their souls for one playoff run. But ultimately I will judge them on their actions, not their words. They have both pointed to the 2025 draft as being the key to this team's rebuild. If they don't do all they can to maximize their chances of getting more elite talent onto this team, I will be the first to chastize them.

No, you aren't going by what was reported. You're going by your interpretation of what was reported. Which you got wrong. Which you always get wrong. Whether it's a blog or a video or whatever. He did set himself back a year but he was willing to do that to not play for the Flyers. His call. Sticking to your guns and sacrificing a year for what you want, is not an indication of a character flaw. It's an indication of having character to stick by your principles. See, that's another poor interpretation made by you.
- MJL

Thats your version of it. I did not misinterpret anything that I read about the topic. All we have is speculation because neither Quitter or Briere has said anything more about it. All I know is you and others bashing the Flyers are what YOU SPECULATE they did is unfair. Know all the facts before you lay the hammer down on Briere and company.

I am going to wait and see. I like what they say. They seem to get it. They seem to be passionate about building this the right way, and not selling their souls for one playoff run. But ultimately I will judge them on their actions, not their words. They have both pointed to the 2025 draft as being the key to this team's rebuild. If they don't do all they can to maximize their chances of getting more elite talent onto this team, I will be the first to chastize them.
- jd250

Those chances increase dramatically if they shed Laughton, Konecny and, less likely, Ristolainen.

I am going to wait and see. I like what they say. They seem to get it. They seem to be passionate about building this the right way, and not selling their souls for one playoff run. But ultimately I will judge them on their actions, not their words. They have both pointed to the 2025 draft as being the key to this team's rebuild. If they don't do all they can to maximize their chances of getting more elite talent onto this team, I will be the first to chastize them.
- jd250

the rebuilding the "right" way mantra. Play the right way.

the flyers version of building the right way is the wrong way.

love how you now spew the 2025 draft at every turn so funny.

believe what you want to believe .. I watched the clip where he said this and Jones was clearly joking. I think the entire comment got blown eway out of proportion, but for those like you that just want to shout "A-ha!" it was gasoline on the fire.
- jd250

Jonesy explicitly said the plan was to clear cap space then jump into UFA. His words, not mine.

The "joke" would be funny if they weren't busy re-signing vets and keeping the band together.

Thats your version of it. I did not misinterpret anything that I read about the topic. All we have is speculation because neither Quitter or Briere has said anything more about it. All I know is you and others bashing the Flyers are what YOU SPECULATE they did is unfair. Know all the facts before you lay the hammer down on Briere and company.
- jd250

facts are they phucked up by not signing him. the flyers are to blame.

Yes, but they didn't say anyhting that leads me to believe they have not learned from the mistakes of the franchise in the past.
- jd250

I'm sure this group of unqualified alums will be the ones that finally learn from past mistakes lol.

You’d be lucky to see a street puddle, might want to get out of mommies basement
- ClaudeFather

These are your insults? Just making stuff up?

It stung more if I made a spelling or grammar error mistake or proven wrong about a fact, this would get anyone but when you have to make things up, it just shows how truly desperate you are.

Maybe, but the Flyers weren't willing to take that chance.
- MJL

It had nothing to do with them not willing to take that chance.

They were flaming pissed and over reacted. Knee jerk reaction. They believe they are the gold standard and no one is going to question them. “He don’t want to be here, we don’t want him”. You could see the visceral all over their faces and in their tone. They unleashed a media frenzy trying to destroy this kid.


Had ZERO to do with anything other than that

It had nothing to do with them not willing to take that chance.

They were flaming pissed and over reacted. Knee jerk reaction. They believe they are the gold standard and no one is going to question them. “He don’t want to be here, we don’t want him”. You could see the visceral all over their faces and in their tone. They unleashed a media frenzy trying to destroy this kid.


Had ZERO to do with anything other than that
- Stayin alive

can't argue with that assessment.

Nothing new on TK?

No new rumors about Frost, Laughton, or Farabee?

Whatever happened to the Chabot, Zegras, Krebs chatter that was once prevalent?

Anything new on Michkovs ETA?

Just not reading anything anywhere about this stuff.

Can’t offer sheet Necas due to arbitration. However, considering the Flyers have all their picks in the first three rounds, which could be anywhere but likely again 12-16 maybe 8-16, do the Flyers consider an offer sheet for Byfield, Seider, Benniers, or Mercer? These are known NHL players. Are they worth the picks at this point?
- mikeyo27

It’s either Briere is in over his head and can’t read the markets or the Flyers are just playing up the fanbase with crap rumors of them actually doing something.

This was the summer Briere was suppose to show a clear direction having been on the job a full year. Instead he’s rolling it back replacing Atkinson with michkov and telling everyone to wait until next offseason. The only hope this franchise has is for the wheels to come off fully this year and they luck into a lottery pick. They have no idea on how to actually accomplish anything themselves.

It’s either Briere is in over his head and can’t read the markets or the Flyers are just playing up the fanbase with crap rumors of them actually doing something.

This was the summer Briere was suppose to show a clear direction having been on the job a full year. Instead he’s rolling it back replacing Atkinson with michkov and telling everyone to wait until next offseason. The only hope this franchise has is for the wheels to come off fully this year and they luck into a lottery pick. They have no idea on how to actually accomplish anything themselves.
- psuhockey

can't argue with that assessment.

believe what you want to believe .. I watched the clip where he said this and Jones was clearly joking. I think the entire comment got blown eway out of proportion, but for those like you that just want to shout "A-ha!" it was gasoline on the fire.
- jd250

Their actions currently and in the future will support that he wasn't joking.

Yes, but they didn't say anyhting that leads me to believe they have not learned from the mistakes of the franchise in the past.
- jd250

You haven't realized yet that the sun did come up today.

I am going to wait and see. I like what they say. They seem to get it. They seem to be passionate about building this the right way, and not selling their souls for one playoff run. But ultimately I will judge them on their actions, not their words. They have both pointed to the 2025 draft as being the key to this team's rebuild. If they don't do all they can to maximize their chances of getting more elite talent onto this team, I will be the first to chastize them.
- jd250

The first?


You won't be the first. You'll be way late to the party and among the last.

Thats your version of it. I did not misinterpret anything that I read about the topic. All we have is speculation because neither Quitter or Briere has said anything more about it. All I know is you and others bashing the Flyers are what YOU SPECULATE they did is unfair. Know all the facts before you lay the hammer down on Briere and company.
- jd250

LOL, no its the actual facts. There is no basis for stating that Gauthier demanded a guaranteed roster spot, yet you keep spewing it no matter how many times that's debunked. I never stated what they did was unfair. Get it right. I stated what they did was stupid and they screwed up royally. You have the nerve to tell someone to know all the facts when you get the facts wrong on a daily basis about, well pretty much everything

It had nothing to do with them not willing to take that chance.

They were flaming pissed and over reacted. Knee jerk reaction. They believe they are the gold standard and no one is going to question them. “He don’t want to be here, we don’t want him”. You could see the visceral all over their faces and in their tone. They unleashed a media frenzy trying to destroy this kid.


Had ZERO to do with anything other than that
- Stayin alive

Of course it did. I agree with how you characterize their reaction for the most part but there was no way that the Flyers were going to call his bluff and let him sit in college for 4 years. They don't exercise patience in anything. Saying it had nothing to do with their unwillingness to take that chance is simply not accurate.

LOL, no its the actual facts. There is no basis for stating that Gauthier demanded a guaranteed roster spot, yet you keep spewing it no matter how many times that's debunked. I never stated what they did was unfair. Get it right. I stated what they did was stupid and they screwed up royally. You have the nerve to tell someone to know all the facts when you get the facts wrong on a daily basis about, well pretty much everything
- MJL

can't argue with that assessment.

Nothing new on TK?

No new rumors about Frost, Laughton, or Farabee?

Whatever happened to the Chabot, Zegras, Krebs chatter that was once prevalent?

Anything new on Michkovs ETA?

Just not reading anything anywhere about this stuff.

Can’t offer sheet Necas due to arbitration. However, considering the Flyers have all their picks in the first three rounds, which could be anywhere but likely again 12-16 maybe 8-16, do the Flyers consider an offer sheet for Byfield, Seider, Benniers, or Mercer? These are known NHL players. Are they worth the picks at this point?
- mikeyo27

why would we offer sheet seider when we have York, Drysdale, Bonk, Zamula, Attard, Ginning, Risto, Seeler

Why would we give up multiple first round picks that just creates and even worse log jam and doesn't actually improve anything for us

It’s either Briere is in over his head and can’t read the markets or the Flyers are just playing up the fanbase with crap rumors of them actually doing something.

This was the summer Briere was suppose to show a clear direction having been on the job a full year. Instead he’s rolling it back replacing Atkinson with michkov and telling everyone to wait until next offseason. The only hope this franchise has is for the wheels to come off fully this year and they luck into a lottery pick. They have no idea on how to actually accomplish anything themselves.
- psuhockey

They will be a lottery team no doubt. They are worse in terms of talent than last year. They might score more goals than last year but they will also give up a good bit more.

I agree that I want to see more action this offseason. TK and Laughton specifically.