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RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:52 AM ET
Hopefully Sid signs an 8 year 4.87 Million or something

front loaded, play 4 years get all your money and the Pens just eat the dead cap via buyout of the last 4 years, or do the LTIR thing

Hope they work the system and don't do a 3 year 30 Million or anything like that
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
It’s so funny how negative you guys can be about a young hockey player making the most out of his NHL opportunity. No if given the same opportunity most kids coming into the NHL would not fight Matt Martin his first shift ever. And it’s not like 6’7” is even an advantage when you weigh 180. I hope he gets minutes, hits(clean, dirty, late don’t care) and fights and media coverage all season. It’s great for the game.
- Grinder47

You are the king of being negative towards young players.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 10 @ 11:56 AM ET
Hopefully Sid signs an 8 year 4.87 Million or something

front loaded, play 4 years get all your money and the Pens just eat the dead cap via buyout of the last 4 years, or do the LTIR thing

Hope they work the system and don't do a 3 year 30 Million or anything like that

- RoloTahmasee


That's not how 35+ contracts work.
PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Jul 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
That is just DEAF DUMB AND BLIND Must be a lib You can say that about injury car accident or anything bad that can happen Quit playing the what if game and wake up
- broncohorvath


This is a serious question. Are you drunk, or did you have a stroke? FSG is a business who has a priority to make money. Sid will keep people paying for and buying tickets. It is not hard to figure out....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 10 @ 11:59 AM ET
This is a serious question. Are you drunk, or did you have a stroke? FSG is a business who has a priority to make money. Sid will keep people paying for and buying tickets. It is not hard to figure out....
- PittsPens


"YOU MUST be a lib..."
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 10 @ 12:39 PM ET
Hopefully Sid signs an 8 year 4.87 Million or something

front loaded, play 4 years get all your money and the Pens just eat the dead cap via buyout of the last 4 years, or do the LTIR thing

Hope they work the system and don't do a 3 year 30 Million or anything like that

- RoloTahmasee


That is a thing of the past, but I wonder what he could do to negotiate a post player contract?

I guarantee FSG will want Crosby to stick around, possibly as a CEO or Executive President role running the broader org. Could he sign two separate contracts with the team?

1. Player Contract
2. Executive Contract (w/ equity).

So instead of doing just a 3 year $30M deal, could he sign a 3 year, $7.5M deal on his player contract and a separate executive contract (for post playing career) with a large equity grant, $40M current value for example.

So Crosby gets more than made whole on the near term salary with equity and the Pens if they so chose could either add more talent or just not spend the money. Kind of unprescidented because there are no other players in this same type of situation in the league.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 10 @ 12:41 PM ET
Sorry that is JUST DUMB SID does not rub off on others I wish he did but that is just fantasy Sure he has a lot of respect but that does not rub off either Respect is earned not given away for free Wake up
- broncohorvath


I think of you start to follow chicago you will find a lot of their coaching staff used to rub off on the team. Sounds more like your cup of tea.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 10 @ 12:41 PM ET
That is a thing of the past, but I wonder what he could do to negotiate a post player contract?

I guarantee FSG will want Crosby to stick around, possibly as a CEO or Executive President role running the broader org. Could he sign two separate contracts with the team?

1. Player Contract
2. Executive Contract (w/ equity).

So instead of doing just a 3 year $30M deal, could he sign a 3 year, $7.5M deal on his player contract and a separate executive contract (for post playing career) with a large equity grant, $40M current value for example.

So Crosby gets more than made whole on the near term salary with equity and the Pens if they so chose could either add more talent or just not spend the money. Kind of unprescidented because there are no other players in this same type of situation in the league.

- MacPatty


No, you can't have an organizational role and a player role even if the contracts don't cross over. Otherwise every team would do this and have players getting roles for things like "work from home mail room clerk" for every player over 35.
Weisenheimer
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Millington, TN
Joined: 02.07.2015

Jul 10 @ 12:45 PM ET
CapFriendly is officially gone!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 10 @ 12:46 PM ET
This is a serious question. Are you drunk, or did you have a stroke? FSG is a business who has a priority to make money. Sid will keep people paying for and buying tickets. It is not hard to figure out....
- PittsPens

Damn. Classic big wallet syndrome.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 10 @ 12:52 PM ET
Hopefully Sid signs an 8 year 4.87 Million or something

front loaded, play 4 years get all your money and the Pens just eat the dead cap via buyout of the last 4 years, or do the LTIR thing

Hope they work the system and don't do a 3 year 30 Million or anything like that

- RoloTahmasee


First and foremost the CBA has a clause that a contract can't have like a 33% difference in salary from the most expensive year to the least expensive. No more $1,000,000 final 3 years.

In addition, NHL contracts are guaranteed. Sid would get "all his money" if he sat on LTIR or played.

Further, "Front loading" contracts is trying to put more salary in the up front years to make trading the contract easier in the future, not the case with Sid really.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Jul 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
Shut the (frank) up you inbred gun (frank)ing republican.
- Feds91Stammer


How is that LIB president of yours doing He is clueless you stupid LIBERAL
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Jul 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
"YOU MUST be a lib..."
- jmatchett383


I am sure he is Some of those people have to be the dumbest people who visit this site They think they are experts typing from their parents basement IQ's of a gnat
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 10 @ 1:38 PM ET
I am sure he is Some of those people have to be the dumbest people who visit this site They think they are experts typing from their parents basement IQ's of a gnat
- broncohorvath


You cant even construct a proper paragraph, or sentence, and have trouble spelling the simplest of words, man. None of this would even matter that much to me if you weren't calling other people stupid and dissing their IQ's. You're the dumbest person on Hockeybuzz and it's not even close. I've seen other team's fans around the site calling you out for being an absolute dummy as well.

Might start calling you Lloyd Christmas.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 10 @ 2:37 PM ET
I am sure he is Some of those people have to be the dumbest people who visit this site They think they are experts typing from their parents basement IQ's of a gnat
- broncohorvath


It was a joke...
sufi-judge
Washington Capitals
Joined: 04.30.2015

Jul 10 @ 2:58 PM ET
It’s definitely the off-season… when you have to guess whether some posters are stupid or just pretending to be stupid. HaHa
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 10 @ 3:42 PM ET
Hopefully Sid signs an 8 year 4.87 Million or something

front loaded, play 4 years get all your money and the Pens just eat the dead cap via buyout of the last 4 years, or do the LTIR thing

Hope they work the system and don't do a 3 year 30 Million or anything like that

- RoloTahmasee

Not only can't they do that, I don't think they will. If they were willing to carry dead money into the future to make this team better, then they probably would have just signed Guentzel. At this point I think they want to clean up their cap over the next 2-4 years.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 10 @ 3:45 PM ET
That is just DEAF DUMB AND BLIND Must be a lib You can say that about injury car accident or anything bad that can happen Quit playing the what if game and wake up
- broncohorvath

Haha you need to turn off all the angry political talk you clearly listen to. It's melting your brain. I'm just glad I only have to deal with you on a message board. You must be insufferable in real life.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 10 @ 3:59 PM ET
How is that LIB president of yours doing He is clueless you stupid LIBERAL
- broncohorvath

Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 10 @ 4:06 PM ET
You are the king of being negative towards young players.
- Victoro311

When? I’m like the most positive person around here. Except Sullivan. I’m pretty negative about Sullivan.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
When? I’m like the most positive person around here. Except Sullivan. I’m pretty negative about Sullivan.
- Grinder47

And DOC

And Karlsson

And Guentzel....

Sullivan is fair though. One thing we can all agree on.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 10 @ 4:12 PM ET
It’s so funny how negative you guys can be about a young hockey player making the most out of his NHL opportunity. No if given the same opportunity most kids coming into the NHL would not fight Matt Martin his first shift ever. And it’s not like 6’7” is even an advantage when you weigh 180. I hope he gets minutes, hits(clean, dirty, late don’t care) and fights and media coverage all season. It’s great for the game.
- Grinder47

Haha. I'm not necessarily a fan of his, but I'll be willing to say good on Rempe for getting all those trainers and doing what he has to to carve out a career for himself. Working with a skills coach and Roberts means at least he's trying to become a player who can handle a regular shift.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 10 @ 4:16 PM ET
Haha. I'm not necessarily a fan of his, but I'll be willing to say good on Rempe for getting all those trainers and doing what he has to to carve out a career for himself. Working with a skills coach and Roberts means at least he's trying to become a player who can handle a regular shift.
- Tojo.

That’s probably like 30k of his own money being reinvested into himself. You sign a 6 month deal with Adam Oates that includes camps, 1-1 skills lessons catered to you’re playing style, then in season he reveiwing tape with you. Pretty cool.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 10 @ 4:18 PM ET
And DOC

And Karlsson

And Guentzel....

Sullivan is fair though. One thing we can all agree on.

- Tojo.

DOC doesn’t count because he sucks, the other two are old and the tapes out on them.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 10 @ 4:29 PM ET
When? I’m like the most positive person around here. Except Sullivan. I’m pretty negative about Sullivan.
- Grinder47

You once wished that Dominik Simon would crash into a tree. You are a very positive person…
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