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mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
Nope. Only that it's not Russia but now I'd kinda like to know as well.
- HawkintheD


Russia matches his Demidov infatuation.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jul 15 @ 11:56 AM ET
Nope. Only that it's not Russia but now I'd kinda like to know as well.
- HawkintheD

He lives in Russia, but he doesn’t know it yet.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
I lived in chicago for 64 years.. season ticket holder for 23 years. Getting crazy in US so moved back.
- LFS

That narrows it down to Ireland or Poland.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
Daily Faceoff article on Hawks top 10 prospects. Just one guy's opinion.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....chicago-blackhawks-top-10

Spoiler alert. Of the top 10, 2 are holdovers from the Stan era, 2 from the 2023 draft class, 3 from the 2024 class and 3 from the 2025 class. Six of them are 1st rounders.

One thing I found odd is that both Gajan and Commesson are on his list.

- boilermaker100

Didn't see Crevier? Looks like Kaiser, Allen and Phillips will have trouble making Rockford.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
Ha ha. Living in Japan for a very good chunk of my life and back and forth between HK, East Asians definitely do not consider Russia in East Asia.
- Popsghostly

WWII Germany would agree with you.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 15 @ 12:11 PM ET
That narrows it down to Ireland or Poland.
- rpeters01

I’m betting on Liechtenstein.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 15 @ 12:14 PM ET
Back to hockey. Just some general info since we're all learning something new today.

I found a web site that allows one to access archived web sites. For instance if one wants to look at the last or a historical capfriendly page go here and type capfriendly.com in the search box, then select a date. It also works for other URL's.

https://web.archive.org/

Along the same lines, capfriendly had an armchair GM page that I used to visit. Puckpedia went live on their own version last week.

https://puckgm.puckpedia.com/


rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 15 @ 12:17 PM ET
I’m betting on Liechtenstein.
- paulr

I think he's in witness protection.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 15 @ 12:55 PM ET
Mid-summer trades:

To Ottawa:

Xavier Bourgault
Jake Chiasson

To Edmonton:

Roby Jarventie
2025 4th round pick

Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
Daily Faceoff article on Hawks top 10 prospects. Just one guy's opinion.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....chicago-blackhawks-top-10

Spoiler alert. Of the top 10, 2 are holdovers from the Stan era, 2 from the 2023 draft class, 3 from the 2024 class and 3 from the 2025 class. Six of them are 1st rounders.

One thing I found odd is that both Gajan and Commesson are on his list.

- boilermaker100


Thanks for sharing, BM...... I can't copy and paste right now but there is a link to Pope's top 20 prospects in the link you shared. IMO Pope is much more accurate than Ellis is but interesting none the less. .. A lot of legit prospects that makes ranking them difficult and the variance of the rankings by writers/scouts speaks to that.

I do like Ellis ranking Lardis in the top 10. Don't know if I agree with that but do agree the kid can fly, shows a real feel off the puck and is probably the top goal scoring threat in the pipeline. ...... His 20 yr old season in jrs, his last, is gonna be fun to watch.

If Rinzel takes a similar step as the one he took this yr he might push his way into the top 5.

Lotta folks underrate Commesso IMO. Kid climbs the ladder slowly and effectively and seems to understand and accept a process. NTDP for 2 yrs, NCAA for 3 yrs and now enters yr 2 in the AHL. In all of those yrs he was the starter and he ended this yr as the Hog's starter.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 15 @ 1:18 PM ET
He lives in Russia, but he doesn’t know it yet.
- Angotti


Very clever, Lou. The worst part of that is it just might end up being true for a few countries.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 15 @ 1:27 PM ET


I want all to know I think he is rally quick, reflexive and full of upside but his success imo, is tied to how well the team playing with this kid adjusts.


- wiz1901


Do you remember what height Askarov was listed at in his draft yr? I keep thinking he was 6ft 2in his draft yr, now he's listed at 6ft 4in. ..... The kid's style was to track the puck at an elite level and just let his ridiculous reflexes/athleticism take over from there.

Be interesting to follow what Trotz decides on the kid.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 15 @ 1:45 PM ET
Do you remember what height Askarov was listed at in his draft yr? I keep thinking he was 6ft 2in his draft yr, now he's listed at 6ft 4in. ..... The kid's style was to track the puck at an elite level and just let his ridiculous reflexes/athleticism take over from there.

Be interesting to follow what Trotz decides on the kid.

- Mr Ricochet

How many left handed glove goaltenders were in the NHL last season and the average amount during past decade?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
How many left handed glove goaltenders were in the NHL last season and the average amount during past decade?
- jhawk59


You mean how many right catching goalies... Don't know but not many that's for sure. ....... Don't get caught up in right or left catching goalies. In fact, if anyone has an advantage it's the right catching goalies as shooters don't see them much.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
Thanks for sharing, BM...... I can't copy and paste right now but there is a link to Pope's top 20 prospects in the link you shared. IMO Pope is much more accurate than Ellis is but interesting none the less. .. A lot of legit prospects that makes ranking them difficult and the variance of the rankings by writers/scouts speaks to that.

I do like Ellis ranking Lardis in the top 10. Don't know if I agree with that but do agree the kid can fly, shows a real feel off the puck and is probably the top goal scoring threat in the pipeline. ...... His 20 yr old season in jrs, his last, is gonna be fun to watch.

If Rinzel takes a similar step as the one he took this yr he might push his way into the top 5.

Lotta folks underrate Commesso IMO. Kid climbs the ladder slowly and effectively and seems to understand and accept a process. NTDP for 2 yrs, NCAA for 3 yrs and now enters yr 2 in the AHL. In all of those yrs he was the starter and he ended this yr as the Hog's starter.

- Mr Ricochet


Pope's top 20.
Artyom Levshunov, RHD
Frank Nazar, C
Oliver Moore, C/LW
Wyatt Kaiser, LHD
Ethan Del Mastro, LHD
Drew Commesso, G
Landon Slaggert, W
Sam Rinzel, RHD
Nolan Allan, LHD
Colton Dach, W
Sacha Boisvert, C
Marek Vanacker, W
Gavin Hayes, W
Paul Ludwinski, C
Ryan Greene, C
Nick Lardis, W
Roman Kantserov, W
Sam Savoie, W
Adam Gajan, G
John Mustard, W

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
Pope's top 20.
Artyom Levshunov, RHD
Frank Nazar, C
Oliver Moore, C/LW
Wyatt Kaiser, LHD
Ethan Del Mastro, LHD
Drew Commesso, G
Landon Slaggert, W
Sam Rinzel, RHD
Nolan Allan, LHD
Colton Dach, W
Sacha Boisvert, C
Marek Vanacker, W
Gavin Hayes, W
Paul Ludwinski, C
Ryan Greene, C
Nick Lardis, W
Roman Kantserov, W
Sam Savoie, W
Adam Gajan, G
John Mustard, W

- boilermaker100


Ellis’ top 10

Artyom Levshunov, RHD
Oliver Moore, C/LW
Frank Nazar, C/RW
Sam Rinzel, RHD
Sacha Boisvert, C
Ethan Del Mastro, LHD
Adam Gajan, G
Drew Commesso, G
Nick Lardis, LW
Marek Vanacker, LW

Funny how differing the opinions are.


jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
Next season some prospects are going to get a look and some may stick on the NHL roster. More likely past the half way point and or after the trade deadline we can begin to see the majority of prospects begin to filter in

I am.watching if a Lardis and, later, Kantserov land a spot on the roster.....of course neither likely or even a brief look from Lardis is the most I would gauge
Is possible for next season

After next season I do believe a lot of kids will get a look and could see the attitude of play as many kids as possible, go for it no matter the win/loss outcome
The kids is the future
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jul 15 @ 2:58 PM ET
Do you remember what height Askarov was listed at in his draft yr? I keep thinking he was 6ft 2in his draft yr, now he's listed at 6ft 4in. ..... The kid's style was to track the puck at an elite level and just let his ridiculous reflexes/athleticism take over from there.

Be interesting to follow what Trotz decides on the kid.

- Mr Ricochet

Is there a better goalie prospect out there? It seems like he gets the most ink, which tells me he will be pricey. I’d take a right handed catching goalie, I recollect the Hawks having one that was pretty good.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 15 @ 3:05 PM ET
Next season some prospects are going to get a look and some may stick on the NHL roster. More likely past the half way point and or after the trade deadline we can begin to see the majority of prospects begin to filter in

I am.watching if a Lardis and, later, Kantserov land a spot on the roster.....of course neither likely or even a brief look from Lardis is the most I would gauge
Is possible for next season

After next season I do believe a lot of kids will get a look and could see the attitude of play as many kids as possible, go for it no matter the win/loss outcome
The kids is the future

- jhawk59


There are several forwards with expiring contracts after this season - Hall, Donato, Athanasiou, Maroon and Smith. Maybe one or two are interested in sticking around and will sign an extension, others will either be traded away at the TDL or allowed to walk. Let's say 4 openings next year. IMO two prospects and 2 free agent vets on short term contracts. Prospects would be among. Nazar, Slaggert, Hayes, Dach. Doubt if Lardis makes the jump next season straight from Juniors to the NHL. Moore will probably leave college and spend a year in Rockford with Lardis and many others during the 25-26 season.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 15 @ 3:13 PM ET
Next season some prospects are going to get a look and some may stick on the NHL roster. More likely past the half way point and or after the trade deadline we can begin to see the majority of prospects begin to filter in

I am.watching if a Lardis and, later, Kantserov land a spot on the roster.....of course neither likely or even a brief look from Lardis is the most I would gauge
Is possible for next season

After next season I do believe a lot of kids will get a look and could see the attitude of play as many kids as possible, go for it no matter the win/loss outcome
The kids is the future

- jhawk59


The advantage with Kantserov is he's already playing in the KHL against men and doing pretty well. Shouldn't be too bad of a transition and is a really interesting player.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:33 PM ET
The advantage with Kantserov is he's already playing in the KHL against men and doing pretty well. Shouldn't be too bad of a transition and is a really interesting player.
- fattybeef


But, will he be allowed to come over
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jul 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
But, will he be allowed to come over
- vabeachbear


*obligatory political comment*

Probably. I'm not unconvinced a duffel bag full of cash doesn't solve most potential problems like that.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jul 15 @ 5:20 PM ET
But, will he be allowed to come over
- vabeachbear

Nope!
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 15 @ 6:44 PM ET
Is there a better goalie prospect out there? It seems like he gets the most ink, which tells me he will be pricey. I’d take a right handed catching goalie, I recollect the Hawks having one that was pretty good.
- Angotti


Between him and the Wild's Jesper Walstedt I'd guess.
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Jul 15 @ 6:57 PM ET

Probably. I'm not unconvinced a duffel bag full of cash doesn't solve most potential problems like that.

- fattybeef


With the 'probably' camp. Same reason.


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