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QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 18 @ 8:39 AM ET
23-24 Bottom Six
Okposo 12
Zemgus 8
Krebs 4
Greenway 10
Mittelstadt 14
Benson 11
Olofsson 7
TOTAL = 66

24-25 Bottom Six
Lafferty 13
NAK 6
Malenstyn 6
Greenway 10
McLeod 12
Benson 11
Krebs 4
TOTAL = 62

- kingcong39


Where's Skinner? I know we were talking 3rd and 4th lines, but that's where he ended the year/would've played this year. Math doesn't look so hot when that's factored in.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 8:40 AM ET
So did they score less goals? Sure. But how many did they prevent?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 8:41 AM ET
Where's Skinner? I know we were talking 3rd and 4th lines, but that's where he ended the year/would've played this year. Math doesn't look so hot when that's factored in.
- QuinnFan


He was actually 6th in 5v5 forwards
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 18 @ 8:43 AM ET
He broke 10 minutes 2/7 times and played the most, by far, with Jost and Olo. Next pairing is Olo and Biro, then Krebs and Okposo. He was given 5 seconds of PP time as well.

Dare I say, he didn't get any real chance to produce.

- QuinnFan


Fully understand that. I am just saying something. Literally any sign of showing off his potential wouldve been nice.

Like even a nice pass or nice shot on net

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 18 @ 8:46 AM ET
Let's see what their EVD score was as a group. Just using the groups posted above.

Our group this year has a total EVD of 13.3. That's actual performed.

Our group last year? 9.4
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 18 @ 8:49 AM ET
and finally, SPAR. 5.1 in total last year, Casey playing the most minutes among forwards gave us 4.5.

This year, we have 8.2, with McCleod actually playing bottom 6 minutes.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 18 @ 8:50 AM ET
He was actually 6th in 5v5 forwards
- TheSabresTaco


And I got it, he played most of the year on the top line. I just think him and Zucker should be part of the math is all. It's a nitpick though.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
Fully understand that. I am just saying something. Literally any sign of showing off his potential wouldve been nice.

Like even a nice pass or nice shot on net

- Sabretooth9


I saw several amazing plays he made. Several nice passes in the o-zone from the wall. Nice sauce backhander to Jost in front at one point that Tyson put 3 feet wide.

I dk, I guess I'd say to withhold judgment if feasible. He's going to work out.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 18 @ 8:52 AM ET
and finally, SPAR. 5.1 in total last year, Casey playing the most minutes among forwards gave us 4.5.

This year, we have 8.2, with McCleod actually playing bottom 6 minutes.

- TheSabresTaco

Numbers are nice, but until they put it on the Ice and these players mesh. Really don't mean anything.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 8:53 AM ET
I noticed we're leaving off the illustrious Tyson Jost, who should in reality be taking Mittelstatd's place in our listed bottom 6.

He was a negative on all fronts.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Jul 18 @ 8:54 AM ET
I noticed we're leaving off the illustrious Tyson Jost, who should in reality be taking Mittelstatd's place in our listed bottom 6.

He was a negative on all fronts.

- TheSabresTaco


Fair.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 8:58 AM ET
And I got it, he played most of the year on the top line. I just think him and Zucker should be part of the math is all. It's a nitpick though.
- QuinnFan


If we're gonna do the math right our bottom 6 should be bottom 6 minute players.

Cozens Benson and Quinn actually played third line minutes.

However, if we're talking "bottom 6 players", should take the bottom 7 forwards with more than 35 games.

Jost, Olofsson, Krebs, Okposo, Girgensons, Robinson, Benson. Benson played more minutes than Quinn on avg but Quinn had 27 games coming back from a major injury.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 18 @ 9:03 AM ET
Numbers are nice, but until they put it on the Ice and these players mesh. Really don't mean anything.
- Buff36


I get that. Especially after the Comrie bomb.

What we do know: they are fast and they are aggressive and they can suppress pucks. Those qualities are independent from team. And they were hand picked by Lindy to do just that.

How well they do it as a group? That's where the total impact numbers can fluctuate.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 18 @ 9:11 AM ET
I get that. Especially after the Comrie bomb.

What we do know: they are fast and they are aggressive and they can suppress pucks. Those qualities are independent from team. And they were hand picked by Lindy to do just that.

How well they do it as a group? That's where the total impact numbers can fluctuate.

- TheSabresTaco

Lot on Lindy's shoulders, need to have a good Camp
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:21 AM ET
Ah yes, the height of the Defend Josh Allen season has arrived on social media.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 18 @ 9:22 AM ET
Lot on Lindy's shoulders, need to have a good Camp
- Buff36


wonder if Cuck just shrugs again if things go awry.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 18 @ 9:31 AM ET
wonder if Cuck just shrugs again if things go awry.
- TheSabresTaco

Don't think he can, Lindy isn't here long enough to F@ck around. If the pieces aren't fitting he can't wait anymore IMO
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 18 @ 9:37 AM ET
Don't think he can, Lindy isn't here long enough to F@ck around. If the pieces aren't fitting he can't wait anymore IMO
- Buff36


He has a hard time making trades at good times. It's much tougher to make early season trades.

Curious what they do in G. I assumed Levi was the plan, but Chad/Anthony and some others are sure it's Reimer. Do they go with the safe option or the higher upside option (who could give UPL competition)?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 9:37 AM ET
They scored 244 last year and allowed 243.

Dropping it by 15 would get them to the 220's, which would be top 5 in the league.

A plus 40 goal differential would be top 10 in the league.

A plus 20 differential feels like a more realistic hope when they were basically even last season.

- kingcong39


I think both are achievable, perhaps mine is more of a stretch goal... It is aggressive.

I believe in setting high, but attainable goals and getting off to a fast start to build momentum and a cushion to absorb the downturn in tougher stretches of the season.

Success is contagious, and so is failure. They lived through failure last year, it cost guys their jobs/positions.

If anything, the boys need to come out of the shoot starting game 1. While the Top 6 and Top 4 are the meat and potato's... I sense the bottom 6 is going to provide that energy game in and game out that helps charge the Top line/pairing guys.

Sure would love to see a viable 2LW emerge ... Either via trade or from within.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 18 @ 9:41 AM ET
He has a hard time making trades at good times. It's much tougher to make early season trades.

Curious what they do in G. I assumed Levi was the plan, but Chad/Anthony and some others are sure it's Reimer. Do they go with the safe option or the higher upside option (who could give UPL competition)?

- Lunaion

Understand that, but I am not just talking trades. And I wouldn't be surprised if Levi started in Rochester, It's a weird situation, hopefully UPL keeps growing or it won't Matter.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:44 AM ET
He has a hard time making trades at good times. It's much tougher to make early season trades.

Curious what they do in G. I assumed Levi was the plan, but Chad/Anthony and some others are sure it's Reimer. Do they go with the safe option or the higher upside option (who could give UPL competition)?

- Lunaion


I couldn't give less of a (frank) of who is here and who isn't. Just make sure it's two bodies.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 18 @ 9:45 AM ET
He has a hard time making trades at good times. It's much tougher to make early season trades.

Curious what they do in G. I assumed Levi was the plan, but Chad/Anthony and some others are sure it's Reimer. Do they go with the safe option or the higher upside option (who could give UPL competition)?

- Lunaion


I am a believer in letting G's perk in the AHL until they consistently dominate.
I'd go with Reimer for at least 30 games, unless of course he is killing them with like .850 SV%.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 9:47 AM ET
July 18th and Trouba, McGroarty, Zegras and Farabee are still not traded. Islanders need space.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 18 @ 9:49 AM ET
I couldn't give less of a (frank) of who is here and who isn't. Just make sure it's two bodies.
- TheSabresTaco


Do they still get to take 3 to Europe? Might not get our answer there right away.

I don't think they can afford to squander points figuring out their goalies again this season. I'd prefer the UPL/Levi competition.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 18 @ 9:52 AM ET
I couldn't give less of a (frank) of who is here and who isn't. Just make sure it's two bodies.
- TheSabresTaco


After it's leaked that UPL demanded a trade:

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