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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 23 @ 9:20 AM ET
This is the closest thing I have read to that:

https://www.dailyfaceoff....-to-play-again-in-the-nhl

- TheFreak

secrecy, lies, and more BS from the gold standard.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 23 @ 9:22 AM ET
I was traveling this weekend and read it in passing on my phone, but there was not really any clarification, just restating that Johansen does not want to play for Torts and that is the primary reason he is not playing, and the Flyers are trying to cover it up like they did with the entire Gauthier saga.
- jd250

I have not seen anything from ryjo or his agent saying he will not play for torts. if it is out there would love to see it.

flyers waived him minutes after acquiring him. Did they even try to work it out? doesn't seem like it to me.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 23 @ 9:23 AM ET
The Gauthier situation is hard for me to figure out because Gauthier never gave a reason as to why he wanted out. In my opinion there isn’t a “Tortorella situation” because his bad team overachieved last season and you don’t fire a coach for doing a good job. This isn’t me saying Torts isn’t flawed and doesn’t make titanic mistakes. I’m saying most organizations are only going to look at the final record and what the coach had to use. I don’t agree with Frost being scratched 6 games in a row in October but I will say, Patrick Laine probably was mistreated by Torts but Patrick Laine also hasn’t improved as a player since Torts left Columbus.

Not a defending Torts as much as, sometimes we have to stop looking at a situation from a fans’ perspective.

- roenick97

It's just that for an organization that markets the new era of Orange and states one of the trademarks of this new era is honesty and transparency with its fanbase, its not a good look when you break that promise so early in the new era. The Flyers are not be upfront with us, that much is certain.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 23 @ 9:26 AM ET
the got him to come over. then after 6/7 weeks he wants out? Out why? where is the disconnect?

- he comes over and has to sit behind cal "no future" peterson. what is the main goal of your AHL team? was he told something diff in terms of playing time?

- did the flyers have a good support system in place? did they provide him with what he needed?

- once he saw ivan come over and sign a 2 year deal did that sour him at all? 

- how did danny boy let it get to this point?

- maybe it is a simple case of home sickness. not sure I buy it though. 

- hello it's me 2050


I think the first 1 played a part, but the second point is the bigger issue. He signed when Fedetov was staying in the KHL, so I think he was expecting to be with the Flyers this year, as a back up at an NHL salary. Instead, he is backing up Peterson, at an AHL salary and riding buses, not flying in planes. I think he doesn't see a way to the NHL with the Flyers and wants to be released to persue better situations to him. His KHL pay is quite a bit higher than his AHL salary, so he stays home.
Homesickness is just an excuse in my books.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
I will try to find it. This article from back in March also states the same thing though. https://broadstreetbuzz.c...0with%20Cutter%20Gauthier.

This is an interesting angle because I also found out that Buium's agent is also Gauthier's agent, so that might explain why the Flyers wanted nothing to do with Buium. It's not a good situation when a team and an agent are not on good terms. Helge Grans is also represented by Kurt Overhardt.

- jd250


If Flyers passed due in part or in whole on Buium based on who his agent is. It's just another example of their incompetence.
Gaskoin
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Washington, IL
Joined: 05.03.2022

Oct 1 @ 8:29 PM ET
If Flyers passed due in part or in whole on Buium based on who his agent is. It's just another example of their incompetence.
- MJL

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