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Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 24 @ 3:04 PM ET
Please elaborate? Or any example you have to point to? I never see anything regarding Sharp in the news other than when he and LeClair tried to talk to Cutter.
- Flyerz74


Isn't that just repeating what i said? That's exactly what i meant.

https://broadstreetbrainr...e-new-era-of-gaslighting/

Another indignity that the Flyers emphasized throughout their campaign was that Gauthier had refused to meet with more ex-players-turned-employees. Gauthier had turned away John Leclair and Patrick Sharp in Boston in November 2023*, long after the player’s agent had already told the team not to contact him anymore.

The Flyers essentially stalked Cutter but it's ok because they were famous players and then put CG on blast for not bowing to their generosity. How much was that meeting snub played up? The kid got death threats over the flyers party line but nothing to see here.

Performative outrage played to willing customers who didn't want to think to hard about it.

Go Flyers?


Flyerz74
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jul 24 @ 3:08 PM ET
Isn't that just repeating what i said? That's exactly what i meant.

https://broadstreetbrainr...e-new-era-of-gaslighting/

Another indignity that the Flyers emphasized throughout their campaign was that Gauthier had refused to meet with more ex-players-turned-employees. Gauthier had turned away John Leclair and Patrick Sharp in Boston in November 2023*, long after the player’s agent had already told the team not to contact him anymore.

The Flyers essentially stalked Cutter but it's ok because they were famous players and then put CG on blast for not bowing to their generosity. How much was that meeting snub played up? The kid got death threats over the flyers party line but nothing to see here.

Performative outrage played to willing customers who didn't want to think to hard about it.

Go Flyers?

- Flyers_01



Oh I thought there were more examples than just this one thing. Still beating the dead horse.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 24 @ 3:11 PM ET
At the time, Sharp mentioned that then GM Bobby Clarke didn't wanted to trade him away. But his request was granted and he was even able to choose the team. "”I knew the Chicago Blackhawks had a young group that was playing in Norfolk the year before. Jun 20, 2020


Learn something new everyday.

- Flyerz74

do you have a link for that quote where he requested the hawks.

so he requested like cutter did? they have some things in common then.
Flyerz74
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jul 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
do you have a link for that quote where he requested the hawks.

so he requested like cutter did? they have some things in common then.

- hello it's me 2050


Here, I'll do you a solid: https://www.crossingbroad...cilitating-his-trade.html

Nah, I believe it is a totally different situation, just the end results are the same.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 24 @ 3:19 PM ET
Here, I'll do you a solid: https://www.crossingbroad...cilitating-his-trade.html

Nah, I believe it is a totally different situation, just the end results are the same.

- Flyerz74

never heard he requested chicago before. knew he asked out. another example of the flyers not putting the team/organization first it seems.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:25 PM ET
Briere stated he got great veterans to help Michkov out, and specifically mentioned Deslauriers, Hathaway and Eric Johnson.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 24 @ 3:29 PM ET
Briere stated he got great veterans to help Michkov out, and specifically mentioned Deslauriers, Hathaway and Eric Johnson.
- jd250

why does this surprised you when you see what the flyers are about and what they preach?
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jul 24 @ 3:30 PM ET
I don’t give a rats ass if a Flyers executive is a man among proles like Hilferty or a boardroom sociopath like Dave Scott. I care about the direction of the product on the ice and Hilferty hitching the Flyers wagon to Tortorella is laughable and worthy of scorn. Same as it was when Dave Scott and his action bias hired Fletcher.

Same circus different clowns.

- StepfordSam


Got it…. Haters are going to hate!!
Oh and btw I don’t give a rats a$$ if this is how you live your life! It’s like watching Jerry Springer show with the bottom feeders fighting to live on the bottom.

I know there are some others that see BOTH positive and negative things with this team!

I’ll pray for you too!

PS. If you are willing to go for help I’ll reach out to a few mental health professionals that may be accepting new patients!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:32 PM ET
Every time I hear the interpreter ask Michkov a question, I can't help but wonder if he starts off every question with "Stupid American wants to know ...."
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:34 PM ET
Think about how fast his brain has to work to make that decision that quickly.
- MBFlyerfan

I know, its just sick good ..
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 24 @ 3:35 PM ET
Briere stated he got great veterans to help Michkov out, and specifically mentioned Deslauriers, Hathaway and Eric Johnson.
- jd250


Briere: Michkov's new best friend, Nic Deslauriers
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 24 @ 3:36 PM ET
Briere: Michkov's new best friend, Nic Deslauriers
- Tomahawk

he said that?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:41 PM ET
The kid can literally just pack up and go home any time he feels like it.

Flyers/Torts had better tread carefully (seems like they are so far w/ the welcome wagon and guaranteed roster spot)

Michkov ain't gonna put up w/ the Frost treatment, that's for sure.

- Tomahawk

Though I don't agree with Frost sitting out 6 or 8 straight games or whatever it was early last season, I think Frost and Michkov are very, very different players. Michkov to me is more like Foerster and TK, in that he will take pride in learning how to check, fight along the boards and retrieve pucks. Frost was not this type of player consistently and that is why he sat. I will say last season was Frost's most consistent season in the NHL once he got back into the lineup and hopefully he will continue that. But to me Michkov will not get benched by Torts, not because Torts will treat him differently, but because Michkov will not give him any reason to.

Everyone keeps looking at Torts and thinking he just benches players for the hell of it, and that is completely false. Though I don't like the benchings, the players who were benched did their share to end up there.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:42 PM ET
Briere: Michkov's new best friend, Nic Deslauriers
- Tomahawk

We'll make a broad street bully out of this young man, don't you worry!
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 24 @ 3:44 PM ET
Isn't that just repeating what i said? That's exactly what i meant.

https://broadstreetbrainr...e-new-era-of-gaslighting/

Another indignity that the Flyers emphasized throughout their campaign was that Gauthier had refused to meet with more ex-players-turned-employees. Gauthier had turned away John Leclair and Patrick Sharp in Boston in November 2023*, long after the player’s agent had already told the team not to contact him anymore.

The Flyers essentially stalked Cutter but it's ok because they were famous players and then put CG on blast for not bowing to their generosity. How much was that meeting snub played up? The kid got death threats over the flyers party line but nothing to see here.

Performative outrage played to willing customers who didn't want to think to hard about it.

Go Flyers?

- Flyers_01


I said that back in February....the Flyers were in the wrong for even showing up there like that. They knew before they left North America that he wouldn't meet up with them.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:44 PM ET
he said that?
- hello it's me 2050

Yes, DB said he showed Michkov a video of the fight between Deslauriers and the Rangers. You know, just to show him what Flyers hockey is all about.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 24 @ 3:46 PM ET
Briere stated he got great veterans to help Michkov out, and specifically mentioned Deslauriers, Hathaway and Eric Johnson.
- jd250



Not only that, mentioned he showed Michkov a video of a Deslauriers fight against the Rangers and said he is your new best friend.

You cant make it up.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:48 PM ET
I said that back in February....the Flyers were in the wrong for even showing up there like that. They knew before they left North America that he wouldn't meet up with them.
- TheFreak

You can think what you want, but I have no problem with the Flyers doing everything they could to try to salvage the situation. Gauthier was a top 5 pick and very important to their rebuild plans. I for one am happy they tried. In the end, the real beef is between the Flyers and the agent, who I think gave Gauthier some very bad advice. I also believe this is why the Flyers did not draft Buium. Nothing to do with size, eveything to do with who represented him. The Flyers were not going to go through that again. I don't think the Flyers are alone here. You wonder why Buium dropped to 12 in the first place? Look no further than the Gauthier situation and the agent involved.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 24 @ 3:48 PM ET
Though I don't agree with Frost sitting out 6 or 8 straight games or whatever it was early last season, I think Frost and Michkov are very, very different players. Michkov to me is more like Foerster and TK, in that he will take pride in learning how to check, fight along the boards and retrieve pucks. Frost was not this type of player consistently and that is why he sat. I will say last season was Frost's most consistent season in the NHL once he got back into the lineup and hopefully he will continue that. But to me Michkov will not get benched by Torts, not because Torts will treat him differently, but because Michkov will not give him any reason to.

Everyone keeps looking at Torts and thinking he just benches players for the hell of it, and that is completely false. Though I don't like the benchings, the players who were benched did their share to end up there.

- jd250



My problem with Torts is that it is well documented that he develops blind spots where it comes to certain players. He sees what he wants to see despite all the metrics telling him he is wrong.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
My problem with Torts is that it is well documented that he develops blind spots where it comes to certain players. He sees what he wants to see despite all the metrics telling him he is wrong.
- MBFlyerfan

I have heard this said about him but I don't know of a real example of this. Torts didn't like the way York played and sent him down to the AHL. York came into last season and Torts stated he didn't know what York was but when the season ended stated York was the Flyers best defenseman. Torts showed patience with Foerster who didn't score a goal in the first, what, 20+ games of the season. Torts routinely accepts that TK makes mistakes trying to make a play. Torts benched Deslauriers for pretty much the 2nd half of last season. Even with Brink, he got pissed at Brink and IMO rightly so, sent him down to the AHL, but then when got called up played him consistently the rest of the way. Even Frost earned praise from Torts near the end of the season. So I just don't see the blind spots. I don't see a player that once in the doghouse cannot come out of it.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
Haven’t been around for a minute… how’s the slurpfest been with the latest news…
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 24 @ 4:05 PM ET
Briere stated he got great veterans to help Michkov out, and specifically mentioned Deslauriers, Hathaway and Eric Johnson.
- jd250

😆
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 24 @ 4:07 PM ET
My problem with Torts is that it is well documented that he develops blind spots where it comes to certain players. He sees what he wants to see despite all the metrics telling him he is wrong.
- MBFlyerfan

Sounds like the evil 😈 stepdad
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 24 @ 4:07 PM ET
Though I don't agree with Frost sitting out 6 or 8 straight games or whatever it was early last season, I think Frost and Michkov are very, very different players. Michkov to me is more like Foerster and TK, in that he will take pride in learning how to check, fight along the boards and retrieve pucks. Frost was not this type of player consistently and that is why he sat. I will say last season was Frost's most consistent season in the NHL once he got back into the lineup and hopefully he will continue that. But to me Michkov will not get benched by Torts, not because Torts will treat him differently, but because Michkov will not give him any reason to.

Everyone keeps looking at Torts and thinking he just benches players for the hell of it, and that is completely false. Though I don't like the benchings, the players who were benched did their share to end up there.

- jd250


sat the whole 3rd period last game of the season when they needed a goal. enough said. Torts is an Egomaniac, end of story for me.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
Haven’t been around for a minute… how’s the slurpfest been with the latest news…
- Stayin alive

With Michkov, flyers should get above the Blow Jackets in the Metro 🚇
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