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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 24 @ 6:31 PM ET
Morgan Frost. Bobby Brink.
- MJL

not true, since once both got back into the lineup they played consistent minutes. If Torts makes up his mind and never changes, both would have been in the dog house the entire season, but that didn't happen.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jul 24 @ 6:55 PM ET
not sure how
- hello it's me 2050


I did enjoy watching this team the last year and 1/2 of the Fletcher GM tenure so I just stopped watching and spend my time on other interests.
I have seem much better hockey the last 2 years so I guess that’s where my hope comes from. Still a way to go for sure but it was definitely better.

Have faith other wise it’s not worth our time!
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jul 24 @ 7:03 PM ET
It's really simple. If someone has a negative viewpoint on the team and you feel differently. There's really two choices in how to respond. Like you did, focusing on the poster. Or reply, here's why I think your wrong and list the reasons why. You didn't choose the latter for obvious reasons. If you attempted to make that argument, I think it would just compound the ignorance as there just isn't an argument to be made. Not a rational one anyway.
- MJL


That’s fair advice!
I have read several of your posts on here over the years you should take the advice you gave me and apply it yourself!!

I will try to do the same!

Maybe just like Rodney King said “ Can’t we all just get along?”


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 8:04 PM ET
One thing I absolutely love about Michkov is he is not just happy to be here and have a chance to play in the NHL, he repeatedly talks about winning the Stanley Cup. This is something you can't teach, and I think its a very great quality.
- jd250


What top level young player doesn't talk about winning the Stanley Cup
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 8:06 PM ET
I said Frost had his best season in the NHL once he got back into the lineup. What else do you want me to say about him? Do you disagree with this assessment? How much do you want to bet that Michkov does not get benched by Torts?
- jd250



You've never been right about Frost. It's a guarantee that Tortorella benches Michkov at some point.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 8:08 PM ET
not true, since once both got back into the lineup they played consistent minutes. If Torts makes up his mind and never changes, both would have been in the dog house the entire season, but that didn't happen.
- jd250


Your delusional. Both Frost and Brink were benched after basically the first period in a must win game to make the playoffs. You have blinders on when it comes to Tortorella.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 8:09 PM ET
That’s fair advice!
I have read several of your posts on here over the years you should take the advice you gave me and apply it yourself!!

I will try to do the same!

Maybe just like Rodney King said “ Can’t we all just get along?”

- Hosher12


Feel free to call me out on it and we can discuss it.
Flyers4tw
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.29.2020

Jul 24 @ 8:10 PM ET
Amazing how many toxic fans post on here. We should enjoy the fact that we have a new prospect but the trolls on forums (like this) are just so nauseating.
Flyers4tw
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.29.2020

Jul 24 @ 8:12 PM ET
Your delusional. Both Frost and Brink were benched after basically the first period in a must win game to make the playoffs. You have blinders on when it comes to Tortorella.
- MJL


Your endless toxic posts here speak for themselves. You should just crawl back into your awful little hole with your sad little life. Sad little armchair GM.




MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 8:15 PM ET
Amazing how many toxic fans post on here. We should enjoy the fact that we have a new prospect but the trolls on forums (like this) are just so nauseating.
- Flyers4tw


Having a realistic and accurate view of the team and it's performance is not being a troll. You're free to have a fantasy view of the franchise if you like and free to show and prove to those who have a pessimistic view of the team how they're wrong.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jul 24 @ 8:52 PM ET
Feel free to call me out on it and we can discuss it.
- MJL



👍
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Jul 24 @ 9:01 PM ET
not true, since once both got back into the lineup they played consistent minutes. If Torts makes up his mind and never changes, both would have been in the dog house the entire season, but that didn't happen.
- jd250



Game 82?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 24 @ 9:06 PM ET
Amazing how many toxic fans post on here. We should enjoy the fact that we have a new prospect but the trolls on forums (like this) are just so nauseating.
- Flyers4tw


They reportedly showed him fight video of deslauriers and told him he’s his new best friend. They make it impossible
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jul 24 @ 9:50 PM ET
Amazing how many toxic fans post on here. We should enjoy the fact that we have a new prospect but the trolls on forums (like this) are just so nauseating.
- Flyers4tw


Amen! I don't defend the Flyers but try to be optimistic and give DB more than a year to correct the issues that have set us back. I don't think Torts is right for this team, don't want to extend TK, didn't like the Hathaway extension, etc, but I'm drinking the orange kool aid bc I don't bash everything the Flyers do on a daily basis. It might be years before we are relevant and it sucks. I'm still a Flyers fan and will root for them regardless. Looking forward to Michkov and hopefully better things to come!
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 24 @ 10:38 PM ET
They reportedly showed him fight video of deslauriers and told him he’s his new best friend. They make it impossible
- Just5

You guys are such girls

Just a bunch of old Hens, clucking all day about the same thing everyday.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 25 @ 7:13 AM ET
Amen! I don't defend the Flyers but try to be optimistic and give DB more than a year to correct the issues that have set us back. I don't think Torts is right for this team, don't want to extend TK, didn't like the Hathaway extension, etc, but I'm drinking the orange kool aid bc I don't bash everything the Flyers do on a daily basis. It might be years before we are relevant and it sucks. I'm still a Flyers fan and will root for them regardless. Looking forward to Michkov and hopefully better things to come!
- Don Nachbaur


Ok..he has had chances to trade Laughton, and chooses not to. I am sure he has recieved offers for TK, and doesn't move him.

The problem I have with Briere and Co right now is that they are not cleaning old messes, and preventing new ones. They are making mistake after mistake, and compounding the mistakes with lame excuses. Have we ever seen multiple prospects in one calender year want out of the organization?

Having Michkov is nice, but Torts isn't the right coach for this. Keeping him as HC after last year is another huge mistake.

They aren't learning from past mistakes, and to expect Michkov, as a rookie to be the savior right now is a bit much. He doesn't even have anyone to play with who can keep up with him.

The Flyers have been a joke since the cap kicked in. Even Anaheim has abetter record than Philly since the cap kicked in:

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 25 @ 7:47 AM ET
You guys are such girls

Just a bunch of old Hens, clucking all day about the same thing everyday.

- roenick97

do you like chicken? white or dark meat?
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 25 @ 8:42 AM ET
Ok..he has had chances to trade Laughton, and chooses not to. I am sure he has recieved offers for TK, and doesn't move him.

The problem I have with Briere and Co right now is that they are not cleaning old messes, and preventing new ones. They are making mistake after mistake, and compounding the mistakes with lame excuses. Have we ever seen multiple prospects in one calender year want out of the organization?

Having Michkov is nice, but Torts isn't the right coach for this. Keeping him as HC after last year is another huge mistake.

They aren't learning from past mistakes, and to expect Michkov, as a rookie to be the savior right now is a bit much. He doesn't even have anyone to play with who can keep up with him.

The Flyers have been a joke since the cap kicked in. Even Anaheim has abetter record than Philly since the cap kicked in:

- TheFreak


Looks like the Flyers were right on their average last year.

Saying Briere has only had 1 season is misleading. He's had 2 full offseasons. 2 Drafts, 2 FA periods. Fletcher only had 4. Fletch signed a 30+ 4th line journeyman to a 4 year deal doubling his salary with a limited no-trade clause for 2 years. Briere signed a 30+ 3rd pair dman journeyman for 4 years more than tripling his salary with a ntc for 2 years.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 25 @ 9:09 AM ET
Looks like the Flyers were right on their average last year.

Saying Briere has only had 1 season is misleading. He's had 2 full offseasons. 2 Drafts, 2 FA periods. Fletcher only had 4. Fletch signed a 30+ 4th line journeyman to a 4 year deal doubling his salary with a limited no-trade clause for 2 years. Briere signed a 30+ 3rd pair dman journeyman for 4 years more than tripling his salary with a ntc for 2 years.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

- Flyers_01


Sure feels that way.
Look at Boston... made the playoffs 15 of 19 years while averaging 103 points per while doing it. Only 3 cup final appearances and 1 cup to show for it, but they have been consistantly good.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 25 @ 9:20 AM ET
You guys are such girls

Just a bunch of old Hens, clucking all day about the same thing everyday.

- roenick97


This happened 2 days ago
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Jul 25 @ 9:25 AM ET
Having a realistic and accurate view of the team and it's performance is not being a troll. You're free to have a fantasy view of the franchise if you like and free to show and prove to those who have a pessimistic view of the team how they're wrong.
- MJL


No your right it's not, but I don't think you have a realistic veiw of this team, starting with the coach.

You have such a biased opinion of trots.

Torts has what top 11 in wins for a coach.

And yet you act like he terrible 🙄

Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 25 @ 9:32 AM ET
No your right it's not, but I don't think you have a realistic veiw of this team, starting with the coach.

You have such a biased opinion of trots.

Torts has what top 11 in wins for a coach.

And yet you act like he terrible 🙄

- SlNlSTER


Top 4 in losses for a coach. Don't let longevity records fool you. Few have been better at selling average over his coaching career than Torts. Must be all the press coverage he gets.

Edit : Reminds me of Jeff Fisher, a head coach in the NFL. He had a good relationship with the media so he got the benefit of the doubt in every article. Narrative of good coach and nothing was ever really his fault. What finally got him canned? He was 1 game from the all-time loss record and despite standing by him for 5 losing seasons, the owner did not want to be in the record books. Everyone else who stood by his mediocre record also stopped supporting him at that point as nobody wanted to be in the record books.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Jul 25 @ 9:37 AM ET
Top 4 in losses for a coach. Don't let longevity records fool you. Few have been better at selling average over his coaching career than Torts. Must be all the press coverage he gets.
- Flyers_01


Very strong reply. But he has a cup. That's more then our last 2 head coaches .

He also coached the bluejackets to its most successful postseason in there history
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Jul 25 @ 9:38 AM ET
Very strong reply. But he has a cup. That's more then our last 2 head coaches .

He also coached the bluejackets to its most successful postseason in bluejackets history

- SlNlSTER

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 25 @ 9:41 AM ET
No your right it's not, but I don't think you have a realistic veiw of this team, starting with the coach.

You have such a biased opinion of trots.

Torts has what top 11 in wins for a coach.

And yet you act like he terrible 🙄

- SlNlSTER



22 seasons.
1 cup
10 seasons of missed playoffs

The last 9 seasons of coaching he has finished 5th, 8th, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 4th, 7th, 7th, and 6th in his division.

Reach your own conclusions.


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