Are Dube Foote Hart McLeod and Forementon all UFA’s? Or at least the ones eligible to be? I know there was talk about the teams retaining the rights without having to make an offer or something until everything cleared up. Is that still the case/did that happen?
- nyrangers9479

I know Carter Hart is as his contract was up and was not qualified by Briere. Forementon I think was already a UFA as he was playing overseas

Here’s where IMO Drury has failed at managing assets.

Zadorov, IMO is an upgrade/net neutral to Lindgren.

We’ve all pretty much agreed about Lindgrens longevity and it being only a matter of time before he starts to break down.

Jones is a good player, I was impressed with him in the lineup last year and think he could be a great addition for A team, but doesn’t fit the need of THIS team.

If Drury was smart, he would’ve traded Jones for a 2nd round pick.
Lindgren for a 2nd+
And signed Zadorov for free.

That’s asset management.

Instead he continues to trade away picks for rentals without ever replacing them. He’s a me first, worry about my own skin before the NYR as an organization/future.
- nyrangers9479

Jones wasn't bringing back a second round pick.
Zadorov likely only wanted to go to Boston. Let see how that deals ages in years 4-6

Jones wasn't bringing back a second round pick.
Zadorov likely only wanted to go to Boston. Let see how that deals ages in years 4-6
- airjan23

Jones was a 3rd round pick, that has exceeded expectations. I’d say he’s worth a 2nd round pick.

If the argument for throwing picks all over the place in 2027 etc is who cares, win now, then who cares what Zadorov’s contract looks like in 4-6 years. Same argument as throwing all the picks all over the place, right?

Even if he turns into a 6th dman, what’s $5 million 6 years from now with the cap expected to rise like it is.

Jones was a 3rd round pick, that has exceeded expectations. I’d say he’s worth a 2nd round pick.

If the argument for throwing picks all over the place in 2027 etc is who cares, win now, then who cares what Zadorov’s contract looks like in 4-6 years. Same argument as throwing all the picks all over the place, right?

Even if he turns into a 6th dman, what’s $5 million 6 years from now with the cap expected to rise like it is.
- nyrangers9479

The problem with this entire situation is there was no inclination that Zadarov wanted to sign with us. Now if you sign him before trading Lindgren you put yourself in a bad spot because teams know you have to get rid of 1 to fit under the cap. If you trade Lindgren first then try and sign Zadarov and whiff, then you're up shits creek without a paddle. It's not as easy as portrayed. We don't know if Drury kicked tires with Zadarov & his agent

The problem with this entire situation is there was no inclination that Zadarov wanted to sign with us. Now if you sign him before trading Lindgren you put yourself in a bad spot because teams know you have to get rid of 1 to fit under the cap. If you trade Lindgren first then try and sign Zadarov and whiff, then you're up shits creek without a paddle. It's not as easy as portrayed. We don't know if Drury kicked tires with Zadarov & his agent
- NYR11

Jones wasn't bringing back a second round pick.
Zadorov likely only wanted to go to Boston. Let see how that deals ages in years 4-6
- airjan23

IMO, This teams window is 3-4 years, really wont matter afterwards.

IMO, This teams window is 3-4 years, really wont matter afterwards.
- Brukie

Brukie this might be year 3 or 4. 2022, 2023, 2024 and this upcoming year. Maybe they buy some time after this year.

IMO, This teams window is 3-4 years, really wont matter afterwards.
- Brukie

Idk, it's so hard to say. Lot's of things can happen over those 3-4 years. Panarins contract ends in 2. Who knows what they use that money on. Gabe will be here contributing in 3-4 years, who knows what his impact will be. Laf, Fox, Miller, Schneider, Igor (would still only be 31 in 3 years), Trocheck can be staples to build around.

Lets face it. The NYR organization rarely does a full rebuild. They will do everything in their power to be competitive. IMO, they have enough young talent to do so

Idk, it's so hard to say that as fact Brukie. Lot's of things can happen over those 3-4 years. Panarins contract ends in 2. Who knows what they use that money on. Gabe will be here contributing in 3-4 years, who knows what his impact will be. Laf, Fox, Miller, Schneider, Igor (would still only be 31 in 3 years), Trocheck can be staples to build around.

Lets face it. The NYR organization rarely does a full rebuild. They will do everything in their power to be competitive. IMO, they have enough young talent to do so
- NYR11

Totally agree

Jones was a 3rd round pick, that has exceeded expectations. I’d say he’s worth a 2nd round pick.

If the argument for throwing picks all over the place in 2027 etc is who cares, win now, then who cares what Zadorov’s contract looks like in 4-6 years. Same argument as throwing all the picks all over the place, right?

Even if he turns into a 6th dman, what’s $5 million 6 years from now with the cap expected to rise like it is.
- nyrangers9479

Anticipating the cap led to Trouba at 8m per

Idk, it's so hard to say. Lot's of things can happen over those 3-4 years. Panarins contract ends in 2. Who knows what they use that money on. Gabe will be here contributing in 3-4 years, who knows what his impact will be. Laf, Fox, Miller, Schneider, Igor (would still only be 31 in 3 years), Trocheck can be staples to build around.

Lets face it. The NYR organization rarely does a full rebuild. They will do everything in their power to be competitive. IMO, they have enough young talent to do so
- NYR11

I cant see them not resigning Panarin, he will still be a 100 point guy, he just doesnt have what it takes in the playoffs. Ditto Mika, Gabe is an unknown, I dont put much stock into hype, we know what happened with our most recent over excitement of Kratsov and what happened there.

If the Rangers figure out 5v5 and Panarin and Mika figure out how to play in the playoffs, we would win the Cup without any doubt in my mind. With the way they have played the last few years I just dont see it.

This is my POV on the last 3 years

ECF, we got there by beating 3rd string goalies on Pitt and the Canes, our Star players were a no show vs the Bolts

First round exit, our Stars were a no show.

ECF on the back of Igor, our Stars were a no show for the Fla series.

You always hear how this is a copy cat league, teams should follow the Vegas model or the Fla model, the Dallas Model or the Tampa model, Ive never heard anyone once say that the Rangers way is the way to follow, I personally dont think teams are afraid of us in the Playoffs.

Totally agree
- Greschnergy#4

They will be competitive, just wont play well enough in the playoffs to win a Cup.

I cant see them not resigning Panarin, he will still be a 100 point guy, he just doesnt have what it takes in the playoffs. Ditto Mika, Gabe is an unknown, I dont put much stock into hype, we know what happened with our most recent over excitement of Kratsov and what happened there.

If the Rangers figure out 5v5 and Panarin and Mika figure out how to play in the playoffs, we would win the Cup without any doubt in my mind. With the way they have played the last few years I just dont see it.

This is my POV on the last 3 years

ECF, we got there by beating 3rd string goalies on Pitt and the Canes, our Star players were a no show vs the Bolts

First round exit, our Stars were a no show.

ECF on the back of Igor, our Stars were a no show for the Fla series.

You always hear how this is a copy cat league, teams should follow the Vegas model or the Fla model, the Dallas Model or the Tampa model, Ive never heard anyone once say that the Rangers way is the way to follow, I personally dont think teams are afraid of us in the Playoffs.
- Brukie

What has Dallas won?

Idk, it's so hard to say. Lot's of things can happen over those 3-4 years. Panarins contract ends in 2. Who knows what they use that money on. Gabe will be here contributing in 3-4 years, who knows what his impact will be. Laf, Fox, Miller, Schneider, Igor (would still only be 31 in 3 years), Trocheck can be staples to build around.

Lets face it. The NYR organization rarely does a full rebuild. They will do everything in their power to be competitive. IMO, they have enough young talent to do so
- NYR11

And honestly, they're pretty successful at being competitive. Rangers have the most series wins over the past 15 years of any NHL team that doesn't have a ring. Unfortunately that just makes it even worse for us fans that only care about winning, not coming close.

They will be competitive, just wont play well enough in the playoffs to win a Cup.
- Brukie

I was agreeing that it’s hard to predict - the unexpected can occur

What has Dallas won?
- SkjeiStadium

Just as much as the Rangers have.

This is what the commentators and analysts say.

Anticipating the cap led to Trouba at 8m per
- Greschnergy#4

The scam-demic was unforeseen

The scam-demic was unforeseen
- nyrangers9479

Plandemic.

Idk, it's so hard to say. Lot's of things can happen over those 3-4 years. Panarins contract ends in 2. Who knows what they use that money on. Gabe will be here contributing in 3-4 years, who knows what his impact will be. Laf, Fox, Miller, Schneider, Igor (would still only be 31 in 3 years), Trocheck can be staples to build around.

Lets face it. The NYR organization rarely does a full rebuild. They will do everything in their power to be competitive. IMO, they have enough young talent to do so
- NYR11

It’s also not impossible for Kakko to have a Laf type offseason and become a 60pt 2 way player. Know we say it every season, but he was trending that way before an injury plagued ‘23-‘24 season. It’s all confidence and decisiveness, all of which were the biggest knocks on Laf. He proved it’s possible.

It’s also not impossible for Kakko to have a Laf type offseason and become a 60pt 2 way player. Know we say it every season, but he was trending that way before an injury plagued ‘23-‘24 season. It’s all confidence and decisiveness, all of which were the biggest knocks on Laf. He proved it’s possible.
- TC88

Isles shopping Whalstrom. Obviously not 1 for 1 bc I think Kakko is better, but imagine a Kakko for Whalstrom swap 👀

It’s also not impossible for Kakko to have a Laf type offseason and become a 60pt 2 way player. Know we say it every season, but he was trending that way before an injury plagued ‘23-‘24 season. It’s all confidence and decisiveness, all of which were the biggest knocks on Laf. He proved it’s possible.
- TC88

Id like to swap Laff and KK on the lines and see what happens.

I cant see them not resigning Panarin, he will still be a 100 point guy, he just doesnt have what it takes in the playoffs. Ditto Mika, Gabe is an unknown, I dont put much stock into hype, we know what happened with our most recent over excitement of Kratsov and what happened there.

If the Rangers figure out 5v5 and Panarin and Mika figure out how to play in the playoffs, we would win the Cup without any doubt in my mind. With the way they have played the last few years I just dont see it.

This is my POV on the last 3 years

ECF, we got there by beating 3rd string goalies on Pitt and the Canes, our Star players were a no show vs the Bolts

First round exit, our Stars were a no show.

ECF on the back of Igor, our Stars were a no show for the Fla series.

You always hear how this is a copy cat league, teams should follow the Vegas model or the Fla model, the Dallas Model or the Tampa model, Ive never heard anyone once say that the Rangers way is the way to follow, I personally dont think teams are afraid of us in the Playoffs.
- Brukie

Well, the Rangers do have one thing going. They draft goalies pretty well.

For too many years....and I MEAN way too many, the Rangers have not hired the right player development team to develop their young talent. The track record is just not there and probably has hurt past teams success.

Id like to swap Laff and KK on the lines and see what happens.
- Brukie

You can’t put Laf on the 3rd line.

I’d be ok with
Panarin Zib Kakko
Kreider Trocheck Laf

That’s telling Kakko, we’re giving u absolutely everything u need to succeed. If u still can’t put up 45-55 pts, you just stink.

The scam-demic was unforeseen
- nyrangers9479

So close...

https://nypost.com/2022/0...ring-effects-of-covid-19/

It’s also not impossible for Kakko to have a Laf type offseason and become a 60pt 2 way player. Know we say it every season, but he was trending that way before an injury plagued ‘23-‘24 season. It’s all confidence and decisiveness, all of which were the biggest knocks on Laf. He proved it’s possible.
- TC88

It's impossible. Kakko is a below average nhl player.