He was here for all of 3 weeks, it wasn't the whole season. He made his own decisions on where and how to live for that time. And he ain't some kid, he's 22 years old. Stop with this bs.
- Flyerz74

You're being ignorant. In terms of going to live in a foreign country and culture. Not speaking the language. 22 is a kid!

But yet you prefer Rupp over Torts!
- WhiskeyMan

Stupid comment.

You're being ignorant. In terms of going to live in a foreign country and culture. Not speaking the language. 22 is a kid!
- MJL

Wrong. Not for a pro athlete wanting to make millions

Take the L

What known facts? All we have is the Flyers' side of things and what has been confirmed by sources. We have not heard from Cutter's side and most likely never will.
- jd250

The known facts of the timeline and how every other team has handled top college players. We don't need to hear from Gauthier's side.

What does Gauthier gain by saying nothing? Did the Flyers screw up? Well the weight certainly falls in the Flyers favor but now Gauthier has to be the player he's been built up to be. If Gauthier flops, the Flyers look less incompetent and Gauthier looks like a player who is hard to please or work with, which might follow him around his entire career, especially without giving an explanation as to why he wanted to leave the Flyers in the first place. You get drafted to a team, you should play for that team. This situation is still playing out.
- roenick97

https://broadstreetbrainr...e-new-era-of-gaslighting/

From Lindros's own experience of being vilified :

“It wasn’t saying no to the people,” Lindros said in 2020. “It was saying no to one particular person who ran the team. And that’s my right…I thought people would understand, but my family’s not a PR firm, and we were going up against a PR firm. It was lopsided.”

Which relates to this :

A few platforms outside of the Flyers’ media market did, however, note how strange the coordinated media blitz was. On TSN’s Overdrive, Bryan Hayes (unrelated) said: “I’ve never seen what I saw last night. I’ve never seen a full-out attack from the CEO to the President to the GM to the coach to the media, where it’s like ‘This is what happened.’”

There is no upside in getting into PR war with a company like Comcast who has the expertise and money to bury an individual. The smart thing is to move past it and live your life which is what he is doing.

https://x.com/charlieo_co...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

https://broadstreetbrainr...e-new-era-of-gaslighting/

From Lindros's own experience of being vilified :

“It wasn’t saying no to the people,” Lindros said in 2020. “It was saying no to one particular person who ran the team. And that’s my right…I thought people would understand, but my family’s not a PR firm, and we were going up against a PR firm. It was lopsided.”

Which relates to this :

A few platforms outside of the Flyers’ media market did, however, note how strange the coordinated media blitz was. On TSN’s Overdrive, Bryan Hayes (unrelated) said: “I’ve never seen what I saw last night. I’ve never seen a full-out attack from the CEO to the President to the GM to the coach to the media, where it’s like ‘This is what happened.’”

There is no upside in getting into PR war with a company like Comcast who has the expertise and money to bury an individual. The smart thing is to move past it and live your life which is what he is doing.
- Flyers_01

Hang on. I’m not gonna do the Lindros and Gauthier comparison because there isn’t one. Lindros wouldn’t even put on the Quebec sweater. Gauthier was gung ho until he wasn’t and wouldn’t even speak to the organization. This isn’t about Gauthier and his family, this is just about Gauthier himself.

There is definitely a narrative among Torts haters on this board that Torts will ruin Michkov, even though Artemi Panarin played pretty much every game in his two seasons in Columbus under Torts and had two great seasons.
- roenick97

Michkov is 19.

Panarin was already a 26-yo veteran pro with multiple 30-goal/70-point NHL seasons under his belt who was due to become UFA at contract's end.

Two totally different situations.

Michkov is 19.

Panarin was already a 26-yo veteran pro with multiple 30-goal/70-point NHL seasons under his belt who was due to become UFA at contract's end.

Two totally different situations.
- Tomahawk

No, not really. Not if the narrative is because “he’s Russian”. Now we can make it about age. Panarin played two seasons with Chicago, so yes, Columbus definitely knew what Panarin was but Torts always said he doesn’t care who you are or what your contract is. Torts is more than aware what Michkov means to the organization.

Looks like Panarin was never even drafted to the league. Michkov is even more high profile and he’s never played in the NHL yet.

Hang on. I’m not gonna do the Lindros and Gauthier comparison because there isn’t one. Lindros wouldn’t even put on the Quebec sweater. Gauthier was gung ho until he wasn’t and wouldn’t even speak to the organization. This isn’t about Gauthier and his family, this is just about Gauthier himself.
- roenick97

Didn't you find it impressive how the CEO, GM, Coach and local media put out the identical message all at the same time?

On TSN’s Overdrive, Bryan Hayes (unrelated) said: “I’ve never seen what I saw last night. I’ve never seen a full-out attack from the CEO to the President to the GM to the coach to the media, where it’s like ‘This is what happened.’”

This isn't about how they got to their individual situations, it's how their teams handled it publicly and the futility of fighting a PR war with them.

As it is Guathier has received death threats as a result of the media blitz:

https://www.nytimes.com/a...yers-ducks-death-threats/

“There’s been a lot of good and bad,” he said. “A 19-year-old kid getting a lot of death threats and a bunch of thousands and thousands of people reaching out and just saying some pretty poor things that I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy, it’s pretty tough to see, obviously. But it’s a business. With all the rumors spreading around that aren’t true, it’s kind of tough to go out and say one word or anything to kind of quiet those people."

There's no sense in fighting a pyrrhic victory against a corporation that it looks like doesn't care whether they cause harm to the kid. He has the right attitude at this point. Don't add fuel to the fire, don't give anyone cause to figure out a way to carry out those death threats and don't give comcast a reason to up the rhetoric.

You're being ignorant. In terms of going to live in a foreign country and culture. Not speaking the language. 22 is a kid!
- MJL

I'm well aware of the facts there DH, that is why I find it ridiculous that a 22 years old, from that region, would need to be tucked in bed at night. It's not what he thought, oh well it happens, I get that. But the defense of him trying to get out of a contract, is nuts and I'm usually empathetic as a mofo.

It was a contract with certain terms agreed upon by both sides, outside of the rink the flyers are legally not required to do anything. The fact that they do, is great.

Didn't you find it impressive how the CEO, GM, Coach and local media put out the identical message all at the same time?

On TSN’s Overdrive, Bryan Hayes (unrelated) said: “I’ve never seen what I saw last night. I’ve never seen a full-out attack from the CEO to the President to the GM to the coach to the media, where it’s like ‘This is what happened.’”

This isn't about how they got to their individual situations, it's how their teams handled it publicly and the futility of fighting a PR war with them.

As it is Guathier has received death threats as a result of the media blitz:

https://www.nytimes.com/a...yers-ducks-death-threats/

“There’s been a lot of good and bad,” he said. “A 19-year-old kid getting a lot of death threats and a bunch of thousands and thousands of people reaching out and just saying some pretty poor things that I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy, it’s pretty tough to see, obviously. But it’s a business. With all the rumors spreading around that aren’t true, it’s kind of tough to go out and say one word or anything to kind of quiet those people."

There's no sense in fighting a pyrrhic victory against a corporation that it looks like doesn't care whether they cause harm to the kid. He has the right attitude at this point. Don't add fuel to the fire, don't give anyone cause to figure out a way to carry out those death threats and don't give comcast a reason to up the rhetoric.
- Flyers_01

"Attack"? "Public"?

Nobody knew there was an issue with Gauthier until the evening Briere traded him. The Gauthier handling was completely different from the Lindros handling in Quebec.

"Attack"? "Public"?

Nobody knew there was an issue with Gauthier until the evening Briere traded him. The Gauthier handling was completely different from the Lindros handling in Quebec.
- roenick97

Oh dear lord.

Look. I provided a documented quote from CG that he is receiving thousands of death threats as a result of what happened with the Flyers and that he feels it isn't worth it to get his side out there.

That answers your original question. If it doesn't satisfy you, I don't know what to tell you.

"Attack"? "Public"?

Nobody knew there was an issue with Gauthier until the evening Briere traded him. The Gauthier handling was completely different from the Lindros handling in Quebec.
- roenick97

I'm curious to see how his buddy McGroty's situation makes out now that everything is out in public. The Flyers did a good job keeping it quiet.

Oh dear lord.

Look. I provided a documented quote from CG that he is receiving thousands of death threats as a result of what happened with the Flyers and that he feels it isn't worth it to get his side out there.

That answers your original question. If it doesn't satisfy you, I don't know what to tell you.
- Flyers_01

I don’t give a sh!t. He made his bed. Death threats don’t change anything. If he felt like he was being a man by man a man’s decision by not signing but death threats change everything, so he’s just gonna tuck his head between his legs and say nothing? Kick rocks.

I'm curious to see how his buddy McGroty's situation makes out now that everything is out in public. The Flyers did a good job keeping it quiet.
- Flyerz74

I think the Flyers did the best they could in a tough situation. It’s been said within the last page or two that Michkov is a kid 19. Gauthier is a kid too, probably making kid decisions.

Stupid comment.
- MJL

Why, you said you would prefer Rupp over Torts, what has Rupp done in his entire coaching career, how many cups, how many playoff appearance's?

I'm well aware of the facts there DH, that is why I find it ridiculous that a 22 years old, from that region, would need to be tucked in bed at night. It's not what he thought, oh well it happens, I get that. But the defense of him trying to get out of a contract, is nuts and I'm usually empathetic as a mofo.

It was a contract with certain terms agreed upon by both sides, outside of the rink the flyers are legally not required to do anything. The fact that they do, is great.
- Flyerz74

Again, you're being ignorant. It isn't about needing a mommy to tuck him in. It's about having a support structure. Someone to help you adjust to the new culture. Find your way around. Someone to hang out with when not practicing or playing. Saying he's 22 is just being unaware of reality.

Why, you said you would prefer Rupp over Torts, what has Rupp done in his entire coaching career, how many cups, how many playoff appearance's?
- WhiskeyMan

Lol is that what I said? Or did I say I prefer Ruff's system and style of play in a discussion on veteran coaches. Get your act together.

Lol is that what I said? Or did I say I prefer Ruff's system and style of play in a discussion on veteran coaches. Get your act together.
- MJL

Moving goal posts. Again.

It’s all public record buddy

https://x.com/KKurzNHL/st...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=
- hello it's me 2050

It got him and them in trouble. I can’t see that happening, so really, we expect him in camp with us.” -Danny Briere

He is a young guy, going to a foreign country, a different culture where everything is different. Anyone would need a support structure in that situation. To say he shouldn't need hand holding, is just not fair.

Are you seriously comparing traveling with going to a foreign country to live?
- MJL

Live? He was there for what 3 weeks.....

Live? He was there for what 3 weeks.....
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The 3 weeks are showing him what it is like to live there. He is not a tourist that is sightseeing and then going to go back home. Needing a support system in place for a young player, who doesn't know anyone. Doesn't speak the language and doesn't know anything about where he is going to live. Is not a difficult concept to grasp.

It got him and them in trouble. I can’t see that happening, so really, we expect him in camp with us.” -Danny Briere



- corduroy

https://x.com/TonyAndrock...a-flyers-russian-prospect

To me, this reads like Kolosov wants out of his ELC & his prior agency wasn't willing to help facilitate that given they also represent several other #Flyers players.

Again, time will tell, but at present it certainly looks like Kolosov isn't going to report to PHI this fall.

Just another branch to throw on the fire. Still another month until training camp so this is likely to be a theme for the next month.

Tortorella hasn't been a great coach for any team or any player in over 20 years. We'll put this down in the column with all the other absurd predictions you've made.
- MJL

Yet players thrive under him. Oh thats right, if the succeed like Sanheim, York and Konecny, its because of the player but if a guy struggles, then ots all Torts fault.

Five guys had issues with Torts. 3 of them rose to the occasion and are now playing large roles for the Flyers

The other two are Hayes who is on his 3rd team in 2 years and DeAngelo who is still unsigned and also been bounced around the last few years

Torts is s good coach, he has flaws like all coaches. Hes done more with this team than any previous coach with more skilled players. Torts didn't have a Giroux or Voracek. Brindamour put Necas on the 4th line last year for some time. Everyone here would have lost their minds of he did that here yet everyone still lines up to jerk hom off in the comments as a great coach whos never actually won anything.