Oh dear lord.

Look. I provided a documented quote from CG that he is receiving thousands of death threats as a result of what happened with the Flyers and that he feels it isn't worth it to get his side out there.

That answers your original question. If it doesn't satisfy you, I don't know what to tell you.
- Flyers_01

You teally think anything Flyers said mattered. People are dumb. Actress playing Abby in the Last of us is getting death threats just because she doesn't look the part. The internet was goingbto do this regardless. He didnt want to play for PHI so all the nut jobs are going to attack him on the internet. You dont think the Jets guy is going to get the same thing from the crazies there?

https://x.com/KevinWeekes/status/1825522460185198916?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1825522460185198916%7Ctwgr%5E984d1cebef4bdc19238e7b84bad47ff0fefbc010%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.hfboards.com%2Fthreads%2Fmiscellaneous-nhl-discussion-cix-processing-a-tremendous-amount-of-insane-information.2969548%2Fpage-29
- hello it's me 2050

Is he high?

Yet players thrive under him. Oh thats right, if the succeed like Sanheim, York and Konecny, its because of the player but if a guy struggles, then ots all Torts fault.

Five guys had issues with Torts. 3 of them rose to the occasion and are now playing large roles for the Flyers

The other two are Hayes who is on his 3rd team in 2 years and DeAngelo who is still unsigned and also been bounced around the last few years

Torts is s good coach, he has like all coaches. Hes done more with this team than any previous coach with more skilled players. Torts didn't have a Giroux or Voracek. Brindamour put Necas on the 4th line last year for some time. Everyone here would have lost their minds of he did that here yet everyone still lines up to jerk hom off in the comments as a great coach whos never actually won anything.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Tortorella hasn't done anything as a coach in over 20 years. Who is thriving under him. Tortorella is a mediocre coach with outdated systems and style of play. Completely overrated who doesn't like skill players and over relies on grinders and checkers. He is the last coach I would want developing Michkov. He has self admitted he knows nothing about coaching offense. The sooner Tortorella is gone and out of the organization, the better. The team marginally improved

I really can't believe that the Gauthier situation is still being discussed on here again. We need a friggin hockey game to talk about! Or a preseason football game...NOT!

What’s worse? Changing your mind based on new information or stubbornly clinging to the idea that you “absolutely sign and build around Coots” even when youve been proven wrong with that top notch “player assessment” of yours?

You not changing your mind is pretty stupid here. Its weak.

A lot of us were screaming at the top of our lungs to trade him before the extension. You just couldn’t see how this could’ve turned out poorly for the flyers. You were very wrong.
- anti-lame

Yes, I was one of those screaming and he was very wrong in this instance!

In Brieres interview about Michkov coming over he mentioned that the Bonus of Michkov coming over early is that he gets to play under Torts. To me tgat sounds like the plan is to move on from Torts whether it be the end of this year or next. Many analysts suggest he will retire as he is in his late 60s. Im sure the Flyers Front Office is aware if his goal is to retire
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Torts is 66 and prolly done. Hell, he might not even make it through this entire season. He will not coach next year as a lame duck coach cause he said that went horribly wrong in Columbus. My guess is Torts is gone at the end of this season and the Flyers get Sully after he is fired from the Pens.

You're being ignorant. In terms of going to live in a foreign country and culture. Not speaking the language. 22 is a kid!
- MJL

22 is an adult. Once you hit 18 you are an adult. This guy is 22. He is old enough to drink in the U.S. They let ppl vote at 18. Theres a reason anyone under 18 cant vote, its because they are kids

Yet players thrive under him. Oh thats right, if the succeed like Sanheim, York and Konecny, its because of the player but if a guy struggles, then ots all Torts fault.

Five guys had issues with Torts. 3 of them rose to the occasion and are now playing large roles for the Flyers

The other two are Hayes who is on his 3rd team in 2 years and DeAngelo who is still unsigned and also been bounced around the last few years

Torts is s good coach, he has flaws like all coaches. Hes done more with this team than any previous coach with more skilled players. Torts didn't have a Giroux or Voracek. Brindamour put Necas on the 4th line last year for some time. Everyone here would have lost their minds of he did that here yet everyone still lines up to jerk hom off in the comments as a great coach whos never actually won anything.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The only thing he has done has hurt them for the future by jousting at windmills. Its fools Gold. Last years attempt to make the playoffs was fools Gold and has this organization thinking they are better than they are. Further along then they are. The only reason they were close at all last season was because so many other teams were so bad.

When it all shakes out, and the Flyers are right back where they started in 5 years, capped out, signing and overpaying old washed up players who are supplemented by drafted middle tier talent, we can all look back at these years and see how they messed it up. Doing the same thing they have always done as a franchise expecting a different result.

Torts is 66 and prolly done. Hell, he might not even make it through this entire season. He will not coach next year as a lame duck coach cause he said that went horribly wrong in Columbus. My guess is Torts is gone at the end of this season and the Flyers get Sully after he is fired from the Pens.
- Phillywhiteout

That only matters if hes leaving which i dont believe is the case. He was always still planning on coaching after Columbus. That doesnt appear to be the case here. Unless there is cause to fire him, i believe he finishes his contract and retires. I dont know if there is s front office gig available to him as rumoured. Not really sure what position would be available to him. Maybe special assistant like Briere was if Torts wants to be a GM somewhere one day

22 is an adult. Once you hit 18 you are an adult. This guy is 22. He is old enough to drink in the U.S. They let ppl vote at 18. Theres a reason anyone under 18 cant vote, its because they are kids
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

LOL




Believe me, 22 year olds are kids. Just because their age says they are legally adults means squat.

The only thing he has done has hurt them for the future by jousting at windmills. Its fools Gold. Last years attempt to make the playoffs was fools Gold and has this organization thinking they are better than they are. Further along then they are. The only reason they were close at all last season was because so many other teams were so bad.

When it all shakes out, and the Flyers are right back where they started in 5 years, capped out, signing and overpaying old washed up players who are supplemented by drafted middle tier talent, we can all look back at these years and see how they messed it up. Doing the same thing they have always done as a franchise expecting a different result.
- MBFlyerfan

I am not sure what I want. Let the bottom fall out early to see what they do, or be in the playoff "race" to see what they do.

Both will at least be entertaining. Though cant see them in the playoff "race". come the deadline

The only thing he has done has hurt them for the future by jousting at windmills. Its fools Gold. Last years attempt to make the playoffs was fools Gold and has this organization thinking they are better than they are. Further along then they are. The only reason they were close at all last season was because so many other teams were so bad.

When it all shakes out, and the Flyers are right back where they started in 5 years, capped out, signing and overpaying old washed up players who are supplemented by drafted middle tier talent, we can all look back at these years and see how they messed it up. Doing the same thing they have always done as a franchise expecting a different result.
- MBFlyerfan

DING! DING! DING

We have a winner

The only thing he has done has hurt them for the future by jousting at windmills. Its fools Gold. Last years attempt to make the playoffs was fools Gold and has this organization thinking they are better than they are. Further along then they are. The only reason they were close at all last season was because so many other teams were so bad.

When it all shakes out, and the Flyers are right back where they started in 5 years, capped out, signing and overpaying old washed up players who are supplemented by drafted middle tier talent, we can all look back at these years and see how they messed it up. Doing the same thing they have always done as a franchise expecting a different result.
- MBFlyerfan

That has nothing to do with Torts. The team chose to not tear it down. At the end of the day they are always still around where they finished maybe 1-2 spots lower. The team isnt bad enough. To get the results you want the flyers need to move most the young players they have like Farabee, Frost, Tippett ect. These guys arent your future if you tear it down. Couturier also makes things harder. You can't move him. We are capoed out but much of that cap is from contracts we took on for picks. Petersen and RyJo make up around 8 mill ignoring the buried portion. Ellis another 6+ mill on ltir

Flyers can at any point trade many of the players on the roster. The big guys ppl want to move cant be moved or will be hard to moved because of contracts signed by Fletcher.

Comcast will never let the team tear it down.

That has nothing to do with Torts. The team chose to not tear it down. At the end of the day they are always still around where they finished maybe 1-2 spots lower. The team isnt bad enough. To get the results you want the flyers need to move most the young players they have like Farabee, Frost, Tippett ect. These guys arent your future if you tear it down. Couturier also makes things harder. You can't move him. We are capoed out but much of that cap is from contracts we took on for picks. Petersen and RyJo make up around 8 mill ignoring the buried portion. Ellis another 6+ mill on ltir

Flyers can at any point trade many of the players on the roster. The big guys ppl want to move cant be moved or will be hard to moved because of contracts signed by Fletcher.

Comcast will never let the team tear it down.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The were never gonna tear it down after the moment that Michkov said he was coming over this summer. I wonder if this off season would have been different if things stayed as scheduled with him. They aren't gonna go belly up with their new shiny toy in the fold.

The 3 weeks are showing him what it is like to live there. He is not a tourist that is sightseeing and then going to go back home. Needing a support system in place for a young player, who doesn't know anyone. Doesn't speak the language and doesn't know anything about where he is going to live. Is not a difficult concept to grasp.
- MJL

Zamula seems to have survived. I'm sure they didn't roll out the red carpet for him as an 18 year old in Regina. Just saying many kids from Russia, and other non-English speaking European countries, have done it. Some had a hard time and chose to go back home and some didn't. Sounds like Kolosov had a hard time with it.

https://x.com/ADiMarco25/...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

the company spin is coming...now he isnt as highly thought of?

https://x.com/SuitableAli...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

That only matters if hes leaving which i dont believe is the case. He was always still planning on coaching after Columbus. That doesnt appear to be the case here. Unless there is cause to fire him, i believe he finishes his contract and retires. I dont know if there is s front office gig available to him as rumoured. Not really sure what position would be available to him. Maybe special assistant like Briere was if Torts wants to be a GM somewhere one day
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

IMO he still wants to coach. He wants an ext. Coaching is what he knows and loves.

22 is an adult. Once you hit 18 you are an adult. This guy is 22. He is old enough to drink in the U.S. They let ppl vote at 18. Theres a reason anyone under 18 cant vote, its because they are kids
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

LOL, once you hit 18, you are immune to human conditions and emotions. Once you are old enough to drink, you're immune from human conditions and emotions.

Zamula seems to have survived. I'm sure they didn't roll out the red carpet for him as an 18 year old in Regina. Just saying many kids from Russia, and other non-English speaking European countries, have done it. Some had a hard time and chose to go back home and some didn't. Sounds like Kolosov had a hard time with it.
- Dkos

What was Zamula's support system like compared to Kolosov?

That has nothing to do with Torts. The team chose to not tear it down. At the end of the day they are always still around where they finished maybe 1-2 spots lower. The team isnt bad enough. To get the results you want the flyers need to move most the young players they have like Farabee, Frost, Tippett ect. These guys arent your future if you tear it down. Couturier also makes things harder. You can't move him. We are capoed out but much of that cap is from contracts we took on for picks. Petersen and RyJo make up around 8 mill ignoring the buried portion. Ellis another 6+ mill on ltir

Flyers can at any point trade many of the players on the roster. The big guys ppl want to move cant be moved or will be hard to moved because of contracts signed by Fletcher.

Comcast will never let the team tear it down.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

we disagree, as IMO it is the hockey people making this call. We will likely never know.

https://x.com/ADiMarco25/status/1825563756434448607?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1825563756434448607%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

the company spin is coming...now he isnt as highly thought of?
- hello it's me 2050

if he doesn't want to be a Flyer we don't want him

I'm willing to give the Flyers the benefit of the doubt here that they didn't (frank) this up in some way, but if they go to the full on PR assault routine against this kid, like they did with CG, I'm going to have to assume they did something stupid.

https://x.com/ADiMarco25/status/1825563756434448607?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1825563756434448607%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

the company spin is coming...now he isnt as highly thought of?
- hello it's me 2050

Well you can't use the "If he doesn't want to be a Flyer, he's not going to be a Flyer!" rant after every time a prospect doesn't want to play for you. People might get suspicious.

Edit : DKos beat me to it.

What was Zamula's support system like compared to Kolosov?
- MJL

I imagine he was billeted with a local family. Isn't that what they do? I dont know if they have kids who come over for the last few weeks of the season, though.

if he doesn't want to be a Flyer we don't want him

I'm willing to give the Flyers the benefit of the doubt here that they didn't (frank) this up in some way, but if they go to the full on PR assault routine against this kid, like they did with CG, I'm going to have to assume they did something stupid.
- Dkos

Since they hold his rights, logic tells me they will tread lightly. Say it is mutual or something to that effect after all parties talked.

Then again they are the gold standard so no reason to tread lightly.

Speaking of which will this be another cutter situation that he will not speak to the flyer and it all goes through the new agent?