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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 22 @ 3:03 PM ET
So you have a few bad years and you draft dahlin and power (2) consensus #1 overall draft picks .

Neither is really helping this team score goals or prevent goals currently.

That’s a problem.

A Lindy problem?
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 22 @ 3:04 PM ET
For a true #1 center like Pettersson in Vancouver?

Dahlin for petterrsson , I’d think about it.

Depends on how the Sabres feel about Owen power?

30 minutes a game / give him a letter

- Boss34


Fair enough. I think I'd be out if it was EP, he's not much better than Tage IMO, but I understand wanting more firepower in the lines and being able to do so with Power and Byram here.

I saw a stat, not sure if anyone else did but apparently EP hasn't scored at 5v5 going back to like Feb or March of last year.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 22 @ 3:05 PM ET
Fair enough. I think I'd be out if it was EP, he's not much better than Tage IMO, but I understand wanting more firepower in the lines and being able to do so with Power and Byram here.

I saw a stat, not sure if anyone else did but apparently EP hasn't scored at 5v5 going back to like Feb or March of last year.

- QuinnFan


Elias Pettersson since March 25th:

28 games played
— 2 goals (both on the powerplay)
— 13 points
— 0 goals at even-strength
— +1

$11.6m per season.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
Fair enough. I think I'd be out if it was EP, he's not much better than Tage IMO, but I understand wanting more firepower in the lines and being able to do so with Power and Byram here.

I saw a stat, not sure if anyone else did but apparently EP hasn't scored at 5v5 going back to like Feb or March of last year.

- QuinnFan


Peterrsson 412 games played 414 points.

Would you trade dahlin straight up?
Similar salaries
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 22 @ 3:07 PM ET
Peterrsson 412 games played 414 points.

Would you trade dahlin straight up?
Similar salaries

- Boss34


Softest 1-2 punch in the history of the NHL. I'll pass.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
Elias Pettersson since March 25th:

28 games played
— 2 goals (both on the powerplay)
— 13 points
— 0 goals at even-strength
— +1

$11.6m per season.

- DirtyDan


Yeah, that's what scares me tbh. Isn't like he's on a bad team either.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 22 @ 3:11 PM ET
Peterrsson 412 games played 414 points.

Would you trade dahlin straight up?
Similar salaries

- Boss34


Personally, no. McD, Mac or Matthews are the only players that would currently change my mind there.

Not trying to throw shade either. I understand where you're coming from and could see it helping the team to get a true superstar.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 22 @ 3:15 PM ET
Personally, no. McD, Mac or Matthews are the only players that would currently change my mind there.

Not trying to throw shade either. I understand where you're coming from and could see it helping the team to get a true superstar.

- QuinnFan


I’m just trying to be realistic.

Mcd, Mac, Matthew’s are not available

Maybe a guy like sabastian aho?

Petterrsson for dahlin would probably be fair , dispite the recent drop in production from both guys.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 22 @ 3:43 PM ET
I’m just trying to be realistic.

Mcd, Mac, Matthew’s are not available

Maybe a guy like sabastian aho?

Petterrsson for dahlin would probably be fair , dispite the recent drop in production from both guys.

- Boss34


Aho is good, but I would probably still balk at that. Dahlin would go crazy in CAR and Aho would not have anywhere near the same supporting cast. I'd need to know I'm getting 80pt Aho, not 60pt Aho.

And you may be right, value wise, I just don't see it as a step forward is all. You're robbing peter to pay paul, but given EP's slump, you may be doing a lot more robbing than paying there, that's my reticence.

Out of curiosity, if the player to move wasn't Dahlin, we'll say they start dangling picks and prospects galore, who's a lesser target you'd hope to get? Or even position, is it a center we need?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 22 @ 3:50 PM ET
I’m just trying to be realistic.

Mcd, Mac, Matthew’s are not available

Maybe a guy like sabastian aho?

Petterrsson for dahlin would probably be fair , dispite the recent drop in production from both guys.

- Boss34

I doubt colorado would trade mitts straight up for dahlin

Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 22 @ 3:50 PM ET
(Checks cup, puts helmet on, and enters the room)

I know the patience of Sabres’ fans has been trampled on,
but. It still is rather early in the season, considering new coach new approach learning curve. Trying to figure it all out to the point where thinking stops and just doing begins, idk.
Maybe a low bar, but is the effort there?

If so, then there’s hope for them.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 22 @ 3:52 PM ET
Aho is good, but I would probably still balk at that. Dahlin would go crazy in CAR and Aho would not have anywhere near the same supporting cast. I'd need to know I'm getting 80pt Aho, not 60pt Aho.

And you may be right, value wise, I just don't see it as a step forward is all. You're robbing peter to pay paul, but given EP's slump, you may be doing a lot more robbing than paying there, that's my reticence.

Out of curiosity, if the player to move wasn't Dahlin, we'll say they start dangling picks and prospects galore, who's a lesser target you'd hope to get? Or even position, is it a center we need?

- QuinnFan

aside from peterka and maybe tuch

I think every sabre "star" and prospect is losing value every week
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 22 @ 3:55 PM ET
aside from peterka and maybe tuch

I think every sabre "star" and prospect is losing value every week

- homiedclown


Why the hate on Tage?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 22 @ 3:56 PM ET
(Checks cup, puts helmet on, and enters the room)

I know the patience of Sabres’ fans has been trampled on,
but. It still is rather early in the season, considering new coach new approach learning curve. Trying to figure it all out to the point where thinking stops and just doing begins, idk.
Maybe a low bar, but is the effort there?

If so, then there’s hope for them.

- Ratsreign


It's extremely early and not as bad as it seems. Certainly don't want to dig too deep of hole though, so they need to start finding some more points soon.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 22 @ 3:57 PM ET
I doubt colorado would trade mitts straight up for dahlin
- homiedclown


Then Colorado are run by idiots fwiw.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 22 @ 3:58 PM ET
aside from peterka and maybe tuch

I think every sabre "star" and prospect is losing value every week

- homiedclown


Then trade with another team that's losing, as the same thing would be happening to them, right?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 22 @ 4:00 PM ET
Why the hate on Tage?
- DirtyDan

I do not hate him

but his value is way down from 100 games ago
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 22 @ 4:00 PM ET
Then trade with another team that's losing, as the same thing would be happening to them, right?
- QuinnFan


How about them Predators... Stamkos, Skej, Marchessault... 0-5
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 22 @ 4:01 PM ET
Then Colorado are run by idiots fwiw.
- QuinnFan


When you consider they have Makar and a tight cap, it's not such a crazy thought.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 22 @ 4:05 PM ET
Then Colorado are run by idiots fwiw.
- QuinnFan

dahlin was 10th in scoring for d men last year

beat by guys like matheson, dobson, bouchard, morrissey

it is time to stop thinking dahlin is the one of the best d prospects since bobby orr and question if he is the savior or just an overpriced d man now lacking production

it's not like he is great in his own end
Shadman306
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Joined: 06.11.2015

Oct 22 @ 4:06 PM ET
Why the hate on Tage?
- DirtyDan


not sure the hate on tage either.

outside of a soft first two games (like everyone else) he's looked pretty darn good and nearly PPG.

Now lets see dahlin find his game also
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 22 @ 4:08 PM ET
dahlin was 10th in scoring for d men last year

beat by guys like matheson, dobson, bouchard, morrissey

it is time to stop thinking dahlin is the one of the best d prospects since bobby orr and question if he is the savior or just an overpriced d man now lacking production

it's not like he is great in his own end

- homiedclown


10th in scoring for D but tied for first on the Sabres.... Thats more telling of the team than him.

Playing injured. Should of healed him in Czechia but here we are. That damn Krebs of yours.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 22 @ 4:10 PM ET
Playing injured. Should of healed him in Czechia but here we are. That damn Krebs of yours.
- DirtyDan

it's always an excuse

going on 14 years of it

I think it's just lousy roster construction and cheap moves, like bringing back all the assistant coaches


each year the prospects are dropping in value, which makes me think right now, we will not be a special team with the current group of players, leadership, front office, and prospect pool
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 22 @ 4:13 PM ET
it's always an excuse

going on 14 years of it

I think it's just lousy roster construction and cheap moves, like bringing back all the assistant coaches


each year the prospects are dropping in value, which makes me think right now, we will not be a special team with the current group of players, leadership, front office, and prospect pool

- homiedclown


Like the rest of us haven't complained about that since the day it happened?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 22 @ 4:18 PM ET
Like the rest of us haven't complained about that since the day it happened?
- DirtyDan

arniel has the jets 5-0
berube has the leafs 4-2
bylsma has the kraken 4-2
green has the sens 3-2
keefe has the devils 5-2-1
evason has the blue jackets beating us

and we bring back the ex, and sitting 15th in the east with a soft schedule to start the season
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