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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 23 @ 10:28 AM ET
Apparently he had some leg issue and that's why he only played 60% of snaps. Just wait until he's getting throws by Mahomes and he'll look just fine.
- QuinnFan


Are we talking about the Mahomes who has 6 TD's and 8 INT's so far this season?

That Mahomes?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 23 @ 10:29 AM ET
Which one is too early to tell?

Prokhorov or Samuelsson?

Not sure how anyone can argue that a 2nd round pick should garner a better return then Beck.

- kingcong39


Cause 2nds go for better players. Heck 3rds do.

Mangiapane for a late 2nd
John Marino for (2) 2nds, 5th going along with him
Zucker was just traded for a 6th
Toffoli for a 2nd and 3rd
Kuznetsov for a 3rd
Wennberg for a 2nd and 4th
Tarasenko for a 3rd and 4th
Ross Colton for a 2nd
Reilly Smith for a 3rd

Credit to Quinner
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
Who on the Sabres current NHL roster would you trade to get a 2nd rd pick in return? I'm guessing we would only want to part with 4th liners or 3rd pair guys (Beck, Laff, NAK, Clifton, Sammy) but other teams should give us better players?
- BuffaloHerd


Why defend a bad player at all? That’s the confusion. Same as when we had guys defending Matt Irwin. If a player is empirically bad, why trade an asset for him? Especially one of higher value. You’re moving the goal post. Let’s talk about Beck Malenstyn for pick 43. That’s it. (frank) the capitals traded a 2nd for Andrew Mangiapane, in the same draft. Only double the production minimum, good underlyings. But he’s not big and fast (doesn’t matter at actually being good at playing the hockey)
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 23 @ 10:34 AM ET
Which one is too early to tell?

Prokhorov or Samuelsson?

Not sure how anyone can argue that a 2nd round pick should garner a better return then Beck.

- kingcong39


Andrew Mangiapane was traded for a later (assumed) 2nd.

I still have hope for PP. He’s playing really well in the KHL now that he’s actually getting playing time. 6 goals 9 assists 15 points in 18 games for a 21 year old in that league shows he can become an effective bottom/middle six possibly. He also doesn’t get much PP time, but does kill a lot. There’s the hope there.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 23 @ 10:35 AM ET
I see a star, 4 busts, one too early to tell. Beck is bad. If he was traded for a 5th rounder, I wouldn’t care. It was a terrible move. He’s fast. That’s it. Bad advanced metrics. The one thing he was supposedly good at being on the PK is still below average. In short, trading a second rounder should net a better player than Beck. Period. End of discussion.
- SDSabre


Which 2024 2nd round pick would be playing now for the Sabres?
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Oct 23 @ 10:37 AM ET
Mangiapane was traded for a 2nd rounder...

There are trades every year where good players are acquired for picks or prospects. The fact that we can't seem to do that with any consistency is the puzzling part.

John Marino for (2) 2nds, 5th going along with him
Zucker was just traded for a 6th
Toffoli for a 2nd and 3rd
Kuznetsov for a 3rd
Wennberg for a 2nd and 4th
Tarasenko for a 3rd and 4th
Ross Colton for a 2nd
Reilly Smith for a 3rd

The list goes on and on. These guys are all significantly more impactful than Beck will ever be. Not trying to be an ass, but it's going too far to say a 2nd rounder can't get a good player.

- QuinnFan


A+
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 23 @ 10:37 AM ET
Which 2024 2nd round pick would be playing now for the Sabres?
- IonSabres


That’s an irrelevant question as we all know the answer. Is Beck Malenstyn making a positive impact should the question. My answer is a pretty resounding not so much. He’s fast. Cool.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 23 @ 10:39 AM ET
That’s an irrelevant question as we all know the answer. Is Beck Malenstyn making a positive impact should the question. My answer is a pretty resounding not so much. He’s fast. Cool.
- SDSabre


Nearly 3 hits per game. So we got that going for us.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 23 @ 10:42 AM ET
Nearly 3 hits per game. So we got that going for us.
- DirtyDan


I’d be happy to be wrong on him. I’d rather be wrong and he turn into a great(for his standards and role) player. I’d take the poop and eat the crow for it. I just want Buffalo to build a winner.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 23 @ 10:44 AM ET
Andrew Mangiapane was traded for a later (assumed) 2nd.

I still have hope for PP. He’s playing really well in the KHL now that he’s actually getting playing time. 6 goals 9 assists 15 points in 18 games for a 21 year old in that league shows he can become an effective bottom/middle six possibly. He also doesn’t get much PP time, but does kill a lot. There’s the hope there.

- SDSabre


Adding to this, as I may be higher one him than most. He’s producing more than Panarin and on par with Kaprizov at the 21 in the K. Not saying he’s going to be them, but I see an NHL player in him.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
So adams gets credit when they show up but its coaches and players fault when they don't?

Lol they did play great last night. Love to see them skating and pressuring. Need to find some consistency with that

- ieetbred



Adams won the game 100% last night.

Drafted power, resigned tage and Krebs.

Traded for mcloud
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
Adams won the game 100% last night.

Drafted power, resigned tage and Krebs.

Traded for mcloud

- Boss34


Signed Zucker
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
Signed Zucker
- DirtyDan


Whata tip
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
Andre Cisco S sounds to be on the Bills radar
- Buff36


Any good?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
Whata tip
- SDSabre


sh!t happens. He's playing great
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
you move off of a top 10 lottery pick, that should result in a player on the top half of your roster IMO

beck is worth a 5th but that is for another day

- homiedclown


Beck has played very well so far, well worth an nhl 2nd round pick imo

NHL vet at this point and fits in perfectly
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
sh!t happens. He's playing great
- DirtyDan


Lol yeah, I like Zucker, he’s overpaid but whatever. Not like Taylor Hall overpaid though…
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
Any good?
- QuinnFan

Well Hamlin wouldn't be starting anymore
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
Which 2024 2nd round pick would be playing now for the Sabres?
- IonSabres


Good post uncle ion


DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
Lol yeah, I like Zucker, he’s overpaid but whatever. Not like Taylor Hall overpaid though…
- SDSabre


Im sure he came here cause the money, and I wouldn't say hes to overpaid with what him and that line are giving us so far.
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Oct 23 @ 10:59 AM ET
Adams won the game 100% last night.

Drafted power, resigned tage and Krebs.

Traded for mcloud

- Boss34


Lol

Just don't forget who signed drafted and traded for them next time they lay an egg
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Oct 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
Beck has played very well so far, well worth an nhl 2nd round pick imo

NHL vet at this point and fits in perfectly

- Boss34


A 2nd round pick for 8 mins a night after reading quinners list

Lol
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
Well Hamlin wouldn't be starting anymore
- Buff36


True.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 23 @ 11:04 AM ET
Lol

Just don't forget who signed drafted and traded for them next time they lay an egg

- ieetbred


Goes both ways, if you want to give Adams 100% of the failure , he should receive 100% of the credit when the team wins.

It’s silly blaming Adams 100% , that’s my point

Coaching and the players still have something to do with winning and losing
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 23 @ 11:05 AM ET
A 2nd round pick for 8 mins a night after reading quinners list

Lol

- ieetbred


Does Blake fit so far or what?

They traded down 3 spots in the first and parlayed that into an nhl player with speed and experience.


That’s top5 gming
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