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washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Oct 23 @ 1:34 PM ET
I flagged someone by accident the page jumped and my fat fingers hit the button, my bad.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
I'm not defending the play of Beck.

Rather, what was the target and objective of the trade.
He was brought in for being tough to play against in a physical manner. That's it.. to make it tougher to play against the roster. Not for anything else.
Could they have got him for a 3rd or a 4th?
Who fvcking cares, those prospects take 3-4 years down the road.

- IonSabres


Hey, I'm on your side. Been stating those points since the trade was made.

People should just pretend it was a 4th (as i was told it wasnt a deep draft)
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
I'm not saying it was a good trade, just that this is far from being the worst thing that this Org has done. To be honest, on the list of worst things the sabres have done, its pretty far down (as we've have drafted worst players with our 2nd picks). I guess its just one of the more recent things, so we are just gonna treat it as being more significant than it is.


- BuffaloHerd


And the bolded is completely fair. One second rounder won't make us sink or swim, but it's the collective. I think my issue is that most of the trades Adams has made qualify as reasons for "bad teams staying bad", from the giveaways of Reinhart, Montour and Mittelstadt trades, to the signings of guys like Eric Johnson and resigning of Okposlow.

In essence, you're right, it isn't the end of the world. However, it does put us back a step in the wrong direction. We needed to acquire a bunch of impactful players this offseason and outside of Zucker and McLeod, most are big flops so far. I am holding out hope for NAK, that's about it. Gilbert, Maly and Laff are duds.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
I flagged someone by accident the page jumped and my fat fingers hit the button, my bad.
- washedup20


It's ok, I just reported you back. It should cancel out now.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
If we could figure out this second line, we might be a legit team
- lulags



They've got options without fvkcin with line 1 and 3.

Kulich-Cozens-Benson
Kulich-Krebs-Cozens
Benson-Kulich-Cozens


Some other combo without Quinn.

Question is what to do with Quinn.
ZiggyBuff
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.10.2017

Oct 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
If we could figure out this second line, we might be a legit team
- lulags


Legit team of forwards yes. Defense needs some work before we legit. There pairings are really off.

That can all be fixed by finding a Top4 RD and helping Dahlin find his brain.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Legit team of forwards yes. Defense needs some work before we legit. There pairings are really off.

That can all be fixed by finding a Top4 RD and helping Dahlin find his brain.

- ZiggyBuff


Dahlin at like a 6.4xGF. Leads the team. He's hurt not brain dead.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Hoping one of them can take cozens spot at 2C.
- ZiggyBuff

I was hoping one would take over and move tage to the wing

clearly that is not going to happen anytime soon

cozens is a hot mess
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 23 @ 1:42 PM ET
That's a step too far. The player looks good. The trade and draft selection both look bad. It's also the first of several big questions.

What's the plan for Helenius? Projected 3C, close to NHL ready. Another big asset that suddenly makes little sense. Where does Ostlund project next year? How many recent 1st's don't project onto this team?

If the new philosophy is a defensive 3rd line + checking 4th line and McLeod is the 3C now and in the future, suddenly your last 4 drafts are all suspect.

- Lunaion



Sabres look good, 3-1-1.
Probably played there best game vs. a good team at home in years last night.

If you want to continually bash the gm, go for it.
When the team plays well, I’m gonna post positive general manager Posts.

Top5gm signing tage to a long term deal looks to be a steal again under Lindy’s coaching.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:43 PM ET

Question is what to do with Quinn.

- DirtyDan

Park his ass with rosen and ostlund
ZiggyBuff
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.10.2017

Oct 23 @ 1:44 PM ET
I was hoping one would take over and move tage to the wing

clearly that is not going to happen anytime soon

cozens is a hot mess

- homiedclown


Is it cozens of quinn? With 2 guys on a line in such a rut its hard to figure out who the problem is.

I usually tend to lean to the C. He runs the show for the line.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
They've got options without fvkcin with line 1 and 3.

Kulich-Cozens-Benson
Kulich-Krebs-Cozens
Benson-Kulich-Cozens


Some other combo without Quinn.

Question is what to do with Quinn.

- DirtyDan


Benson-Cozens-Quinn

Give it some time. Donnie's gone, shuffling lines isn't always the answer.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
Legit team of forwards yes. Defense needs some work before we legit. There pairings are really off.

That can all be fixed by finding a Top4 RD and helping Dahlin find his brain.

- ZiggyBuff

2 biggest holes IMO is a top 4 d man and a power winger for the middle 6
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
Is it cozens of quinn? Who 2 guys on a line in such a rut its hard to figure out who the problem is.

I usually tend to lean to the C. He runs the show for the line.

- ZiggyBuff


Except he's actually getting chances. Puck just dies on Quinns stick
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
Is it cozens of quinn? Who 2 guys on a line in such a rut its hard to figure out who the problem is.

I usually tend to lean to the C. He runs the show for the line.

- ZiggyBuff

we gave cozens the credit, and the contract for what he did with quinn and peterka 2 years ago

so fitting he gets a lot of the blame in 2024

quinn has lost a step though and I am glad he was not locked up long term over the summer
ZiggyBuff
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.10.2017

Oct 23 @ 1:48 PM ET
Sabres look good, 3-1-1.
Probably played there best game vs. a good team at home in years last night.

If you want to continually bash the gm, go for it.
When the team plays well, I’m gonna post positive general manager Posts.

Top5gm signing tage to a long term deal looks to be a steal again under Lindy’s coaching.

- Boss34


Dahlin contract?
Cozen contract?
Sammy contract?
UPL contract?
Quinn’s play?

Other than UPL when do the rest start playing better under Lindys leadership?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:48 PM ET
Except he's actually getting chances. Puck just dies on Quinns stick
- DirtyDan

cozens was a 30 goal scorer 2 years ago

time for him to start scoring a few
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
Dahlin at like a 6.4xGF. Leads the team. He's hurt not brain dead.
- DirtyDan


What's Byram's? Can't find it but thought he had his strongest game of the year yesterday.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
Dahlin contract?
Cozen contract?
Sammy contract?
UPL contract?
Quinn’s play?

Other than UPL when do the rest start playing better under Lindys leadership?

- ZiggyBuff

peterka looks good

byram and power look a lot better than last year, still say power leaves a bit on the table

krebs looks much better with ruff

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
It was pretty empty. Western non Canadian team visiting on a Tuesday night .

Sabres played great

Adams gets 100% of the credit

- Boss34

Can we stop blaming it on the team they play and the day of the week?

the team just isn’t worth going to see. They anre inconsistent ant best. end of story.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 23 @ 1:50 PM ET
Benson-Cozens-Quinn

Give it some time. Donnie's gone, shuffling lines isn't always the answer.

- Lunaion


Cozens is really struggling. They should give him some more ice time away from Quinn imo.

Maybe play cozens with benson and greenway?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 23 @ 1:50 PM ET
Benson-Cozens-Quinn

Give it some time. Donnie's gone, shuffling lines isn't always the answer.

- Lunaion

Trade Cozens, you can get that effort out of literally anyone.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 23 @ 1:52 PM ET
I learned last June how “special” many Oilers fans truly are
- Ratsreign


Right. I would tweet at them to pump the breaks on savoie.

They wanted no part of that lol
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 23 @ 1:52 PM ET
Dahlin contract?
Cozen contract?
Sammy contract?
UPL contract?
Quinn’s play?

Other than UPL when do the rest start playing better under Lindys leadership?

- ZiggyBuff


Dahlin could be injured
Cozens is just in a rut
Sammy sucks and we never noticed because he was always hurt and youngish.
Upl contract looks very smart considering the market
Quinn looks slow, Lindy needs to sit him again

Look at how tuch, tage and power are going though. They obviously listen to Lindy
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 23 @ 1:53 PM ET
That's a step too far. The player looks good. The trade and draft selection both look bad. It's also the first of several big questions.

What's the plan for Helenius? Projected 3C, close to NHL ready. Another big asset that suddenly makes little sense. Where does Ostlund project next year? How many recent 1st's don't project onto this team?

If the new philosophy is a defensive 3rd line + checking 4th line and McLeod is the 3C now and in the future, suddenly your last 4 drafts are all suspect.

- Lunaion


McLeod's line is playing L2 minutes for last 5 games at 5v5.

I cite that because maybe McLeod is your 2C.
If he continues to progress as such, maybe Helenius slots in as 3C. Cozens can then slot in on RW on L2 or L3... Or become trade bait. Others like Quinn and Zucker should take note as well.
Having young guys on ELC's and Bridge deals to replace more costly, older vets is a problem I would welcome with open arms.

Seems premature to be worried all that much about it.
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