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QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 8:56 AM ET
Anyone see Trouba smoke Barron last night, damn what a hit.
- Buff36


Super dirty hit again. I really hope to see a Rangers player get lambasted like that, Rags fans would blow a gasket. I'm kind of surprised no one has tried to run Bread or Kreider yet.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 24 @ 9:21 AM ET
Super dirty hit again. I really hope to see a Rangers player get lambasted like that, Rags fans would blow a gasket. I'm kind of surprised no one has tried to run Bread or Kreider yet.
- QuinnFan

Kid should have kept his Head up, I actually think it was a good hit.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 24 @ 9:44 AM ET
Super dirty hit again. I really hope to see a Rangers player get lambasted like that, Rags fans would blow a gasket. I'm kind of surprised no one has tried to run Bread or Kreider yet.
- QuinnFan

That hit was good. The hit was already lined up and incoming when Hab turned to his right (and reaching for the puck) at the last split second and dropped his head right into the impact zone.
The outcome was not what anyone enjoys watching, but it was not a dirty hit.
The kid needs to protect himself out there.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 9:51 AM ET
Kid should have kept his Head up, I actually think it was a good hit.
- Buff36


He put himself in a vulnerable position, so I get it. But watching the replay, he puts his shoulder right into his head. Trouba, in my opinion, needs to be run.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
That hit was good. The hit was already lined up and incoming when Hab turned to his right (and reaching for the puck) at the last split second and dropped his head right into the impact zone.
The outcome was not what anyone enjoys watching, but it was not a dirty hit.
The kid needs to protect himself out there.

- Ratsreign


It's the hitters' responsibility to avoid the head. He didn't. It caused injury. That's an easy suspension IMO. We can agree to disagree, no offense meant or taken, just can't fathom how anyone wants that type of hit happening in the sport. It was another scummy play by Trouba that will continue until other teams start treating the Rags in a similar fashion.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 9:53 AM ET
That hit was good. The hit was already lined up and incoming when Hab turned to his right (and reaching for the puck) at the last split second and dropped his head right into the impact zone.
The outcome was not what anyone enjoys watching, but it was not a dirty hit.
The kid needs to protect himself out there.

- Ratsreign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eYLth2VTzk

replay clearly shows it was a clean hit
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 9:55 AM ET
It's the hitters' responsibility to avoid the head. He didn't. It caused injury. That's an easy suspension IMO. We can agree to disagree, no offense meant or taken, just can't fathom how anyone wants that type of hit happening in the sport. It was another scummy play by Trouba that will continue until other teams start treating the Rags in a similar fashion.
- QuinnFan

the guy lowered his head and looked away at the last second

if he kept his head up this does not happen
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 24 @ 9:55 AM ET
It's the hitters' responsibility to avoid the head. He didn't. It caused injury. That's an easy suspension IMO. We can agree to disagree, no offense meant or taken, just can't fathom how anyone wants that type of hit happening in the sport. It was another scummy play by Trouba that will continue until other teams start treating the Rags in a similar fashion.
- QuinnFan


Going after another’s teams star player is very 1990’s.

Dropping the gloves and fighting (even slap fighting like tuch and Krebs) after a big hit is 2024 for you.


Nobody will even run Trouba most likely
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
It's the hitters' responsibility to avoid the head. He didn't. It caused injury. That's an easy suspension IMO. We can agree to disagree, no offense meant or taken, just can't fathom how anyone wants that type of hit happening in the sport. It was another scummy play by Trouba that will continue until other teams start treating the Rags in a similar fashion.
- QuinnFan

It’s everyone’s responsibility to protect himself first and foremost. The kid turned so late idk what anyone expects Trouba to do differently.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
He put himself in a vulnerable position, so I get it. But watching the replay, he puts his shoulder right into his head. Trouba, in my opinion, needs to be run.
- QuinnFan

I’m sorry, I know it sounds harsh, but the kid putting his face right into Trouba’s shoulder is a more accurate description.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
the guy lowered his head and looked away at the last second

if he kept his head up this does not happen

- homiedclown


Again, it is on the hitter, not the player being hit, to avoid the head. Trouba, as always, launched himself high, creating the potential for this to occur. There was an injury. Trouba should be gone for along time as a repeat offender.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 10:01 AM ET
It’s everyone’s responsibility to protect himself first and foremost. The kid turned so late idk what anyone expects Trouba to do differently.
- Ratsreign


That's not the rule fwiw. Not saying the kid should've seen Trouba and known another flying elbow was going to come, but Trouba is 100% at fault in my eyes.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 10:03 AM ET
Last thing I'll say, because there's really no changing of minds on clean vs dirty hits:

For the first time since Lucic hit Miller, I am hoping another player is hurt severely so we can avoid watching a real hockey player get stretchered off. If another player Bertuzzi'd him, I wouldn't blink an eye. Golf clap maybe. Guy has done this dozens of times.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 10:06 AM ET
Last thing I'll say, because there's really no changing of minds on clean vs dirty hits:

For the first time since Lucic hit Miller, I am hoping another player is hurt severely so we can avoid watching a real hockey player get stretchered off. If another player Bertuzzi'd him, I wouldn't blink an eye. Golf clap maybe. Guy has done this dozens of times.

- QuthinnFan

that was a clean hit due to miller leaving his crease


miller was the one that should have been suspended for his tomahawk swing at lucic's head with his stick

after saying that, one of the sabres should have responded to that play and did not which IMO killed that season
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Oct 24 @ 10:06 AM ET
Again, it is on the hitter, not the player being hit, to avoid the head. Trouba, as always, launched himself high, creating the potential for this to occur. There was an injury. Trouba should be gone for along time as a repeat offender.
- QuinnFan

I’m sorry Quinn, I never thought I’d be defending Trouba, but he didn’t come in high. Watch it from the view from behind the play. Hit was lined up coming in for chest/shoulder area. The kid turned so late that Trouba had no time to adjust as you say he’s obligated to do.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
I’m sorry Quinn, I never thought I’d be defending Trouba, but he didn’t come in high. Watch it from the view from behind the play. Hit was lined up coming in for chest/shoulder area. The kid turned so late that Trouba had no time to adjust as you say he’s obligated to do.
- Ratsreign

he turned late, and lowered his head

robie always said keep your head up on hockey hotline
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 10:09 AM ET
that was a clean hit due to miller leaving his crease


miller was the one that should have been suspended for his tomahawk swing at lucic's head with his stick

after saying that, one of the sabres should have responded to that play and did not which IMO killed that season

- homiedclown


Can't hit a goalie, ever. Sorry.

"According to Rule 69.2 of the NHL rulebook: in all cases where an attacking players initiates intentional contact or deliberate contact with a goalkeeper, whether or not the a goal is scored, the attacking player will receive a penalty."

There is no clause that says the goalie can be hit when playing the puck.

https://hockeyanswered.co...hit-the-goalie-in-hockey/
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 10:09 AM ET
I’m sorry Quinn, I never thought I’d be defending Trouba, but he didn’t come in high. Watch it from the view from behind the play. Hit was lined up coming in for chest/shoulder area. The kid turned so late that Trouba had no time to adjust as you say he’s obligated to do.
- Ratsreign


Watched it several times, it's as clear as day to me. Trouba is one of the scummiest players in the game. If he wasn't a Ranger, that's a lengthy suspension.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 10:20 AM ET
Can't hit a goalie, ever. Sorry.

"According to Rule 69.2 of the NHL rulebook: in all cases where an attacking players initiates intentional contact or deliberate contact with a goalkeeper, whether or not the a goal is scored, the attacking player will receive a penalty."

There is no clause that says the goalie can be hit when playing the puck.

https://hockeyanswered.co...hit-the-goalie-in-hockey/

- QuinnFan

lucic never left his feet

shoulder to shoulder chasing a loose puck

miller's goalie pad is what knocked his helmet off

the only player that showed intent to injure was miller using his stick as a weapon to tomahawk swing at lucic's head

goalie protection ends when he leaves his crease


we probably have seen a goalie get checked playing the puck behind the net a few thousand times and hardly ever called for a penalty
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 10:21 AM ET
Watched it several times, it's as clear as day to me. Trouba is one of the scummiest players in the game. If he wasn't a Ranger, that's a lengthy suspension.
- QuinnFan

trouba had 2 suspensions in his history, right?

2 games 2 times
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 24 @ 10:23 AM ET
Trouba is playing pretty good this year, looks healthy. I would take his leadership and nastiness on the Sabres all day.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 10:24 AM ET
lucic never left his feet

shoulder to shoulder chasing a loose puck

miller's goalie pad is what knocked his helmet off

the only player that showed intent to injure was miller using his stick as a weapon to tomahawk swing at lucic's head

goalie protection ends when he leaves his crease


we probably have seen a goalie get checked playing the puck behind the net a few thousand times and hardly ever called for a penalty

- homiedclown


It's the player's responsibility, at any part of the ice, to avoid the goalie. Period. There's not some caveat to that. I think it's called almost every time as well, but there is no way to argue it's legal in terms of the rules. You MUST avoid the goalie when they are playing the puck, they are never fair game.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 10:25 AM ET
trouba had 2 suspensions in his history, right?

2 games 2 times

- homiedclown


Qualifies as a repeat offender. I'd say he's deserved 8-10 suspensions, but gets the easy road as captain of a beloved team. Player safety plays these games all the time, as we well know.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 10:26 AM ET
Trouba is playing pretty good this year, looks healthy. I would take his leadership and nastiness on the Sabres all day.
- Buff36


He'd only play 40-50 games a season for us. Remember, they actually enforce suspensions against small market teams like Buffalo.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 24 @ 10:36 AM ET
He'd only play 40-50 games a season for us. Remember, they actually enforce suspensions against small market teams like Buffalo.
- QuinnFan

Well Samuelsson should be Healthy enough to cover the rest!😁
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