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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 2:05 PM ET


That picture clearly shows his shoulder is on his Sternoclavicular Joint.

You dont reward bad/reckless play. This is not the NFL.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 2:14 PM ET
That picture clearly shows his shoulder is on his Sternoclavicular Joint
- DirtyDan

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 2:15 PM ET

- homiedclown


To say its on his chin when Barron's chin isn't even in the shot cause its behind Trouba's big a$$ head is inconclusive.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Oct 24 @ 2:18 PM ET

- homiedclown

The law says pedestrians have the right of way. "Period, end of story." If I'm walking through a parking lot and bend over to tie my shoe right behind a running car with its reverse lights on I'm fully expecting to get run over regardless of who's fault it may be.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 2:20 PM ET
The law says pedestrians have the right of way. "Period, end of story." If I'm walking through a parking lot and bend over to tie my shoe right behind a running car with its reverse lights on I'm fully expecting to get run over regardless of who's fault it may be.
- TheHank


The future of the NHL is rewarding reckless play apparently.

If im getting hit why don't I always duck my fvkcin head into the guys shoulder to get a penalty? Lets get people suspended cause I'd rather not take care of myself.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Oct 24 @ 2:23 PM ET
That picture clearly shows his shoulder is on his Sternoclavicular Joint.



And Im calling myself right. Cause I am. I've not heard any statement from DoPS as it is not a play that needs to be reviewed.

You dont reward bad/reckless play. This is not the NFL.

- DirtyDan


Here's the next frame. His elbow and shoulder were both above Barron's chest. He's no longer on his feet either because, as always, he jumps into checks. If you don't see it the same, fair enough, but we really do need to agree to disagree on this one. No sense arguing when we see placement differently.

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 2:27 PM ET
Here's the next frame. His elbow and shoulder were both above Barron's chest. He's no longer on his feet either because, as always, he jumps into checks. If you don't see it the same, fair enough, but we really do need to agree to disagree on this one. No sense arguing when we see placement differently.



Cause Barrons on the fvckin ground in that shot . He doesnt jump, you ever hit someone so hard you get lifted off the ground? Or are you a goalie?


Barron your brother or something? You a Canadian fan? I'd rather argue it out, cause all I hear is "Reward stupid reckless play"

"The NHL announced there would be no supplementary discipline for Trouba. According to ESPN, ‘the hit was a legal full body check with Barron’s chest as the main point of contact. If there was contact with Barron’s head, that contact was covered under Rule 48.1, which considers “whether the player attempted to hit squarely through the opponent’s body and the head was not ‘picked’ as a result of poor timing, poor angle of approach, or unnecessary extension of the body upward or outward.”"
BuffaloHerd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Southern Tier, NY
Joined: 07.06.2024

Oct 24 @ 2:28 PM ET
The future of the NHL is rewarding reckless play apparently.

If im getting hit why don't I always duck my fvkcin head into the guys shoulder to get a penalty? Lets get people suspended cause I'd rather not take care of myself.

- DirtyDan


If you willing to get concussed in an effort to get someone suspended, your career will be a short one.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 2:30 PM ET
Ever watch two cars crash head on, and the back tires come off the road. Did the cars jump?

Cause I had no idea cars could jump
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 24 @ 2:32 PM ET
Jack and I are headed to Tibet tomorrow. We're going to receive spiritual healing from the monks there and channel his Om. He will center his chi, find nirvana and reenter the lockerroom in a state of absolute focus and bliss.

30 goals incoming, much to Pegula's dismay.

- QuinnFan


You know who’s having a great season? Marcooooooo
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 2:33 PM ET
You know who’s having a great season? Marcooooooo
- SDSabre


That whole squad is on fire right now. 1 of 4 teams that have a point in every game they've played
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 2:39 PM ET
Ever watch two cars crash head on, and the back tires come off the road. Did the cars jump?

Cause I had no idea cars could jump

- DirtyDan


Clearly i've never been to California.




homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
Ever watch two cars crash head on, and the back tires come off the road. Did the cars jump?

Cause I had no idea cars could jump

- DirtyDan

BuffaloHerd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Southern Tier, NY
Joined: 07.06.2024

Oct 24 @ 2:48 PM ET
Here's the next frame. His elbow and shoulder were both above Barron's chest. He's no longer on his feet either because, as always, he jumps into checks. If you don't see it the same, fair enough, but we really do need to agree to disagree on this one. No sense arguing when we see placement differently.



Whether it was legal or illegal is probably debatable, what probably isn't debatable is Trouba's intent which was to do harm in such a manner that typically results in the player getting injured. We view these hits as being part of the game, often calling it dirty when it happens to our players and calling it physical play when done by our players. At the end of the day, if the intent is to knock a player unconscious rather than just separate him from the puck, then its no different then a player trying to cut another player with his skate blade. Just very difficult to police accidental vs intentional.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 2:49 PM ET
seems the website took a dump
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 2:51 PM ET
yotes in 6
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 2:52 PM ET
cars can fly
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 24 @ 3:08 PM ET
Lot of talk about Micah Hyde coming back. Could happen by November 5th.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
player x stinks
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
player x stinks
- homiedclown


Y?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
Y?
- IonSabres

damn website had the general lee jumping 5 times
SoCalPucks
San Jose Sharks
Location: Ice-O-Plex, CA
Joined: 03.20.2012

Oct 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
Y?
- IonSabres


Trade player y imo
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 4:17 PM ET
Whether it was legal or illegal is probably debatable, what probably isn't debatable is Trouba's intent which was to do harm in such a manner that typically results in the player getting injured. We view these hits as being part of the game, often calling it dirty when it happens to our players and calling it physical play when done by our players. At the end of the day, if the intent is to knock a player unconscious rather than just separate him from the puck, then its no different then a player trying to cut another player with his skate blade. Just very difficult to police accidental vs intentional.
- BuffaloHerd


He keeps his head up to see it coming he doesn't get hurt.

Peep the headline.

https://awinninghabit.com...e-more-aware-01jawpnhenwv

"I know Jacob Trouba doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt after his many questionable hits to the head. He likes sticking out his elbow and finishing an open-ice hit on an opponent, which people will never respect. However, that doesn't mean he can't throw a clean, punishing, open-ice hit for the rest of his career without it being dirty. Trouba's hit on Justin Barron on Tuesday night was clean, and Barron must be more aware when he's on the ice against a player like Trouba.

Barron tried to carry the puck up the ice in the third period of a blowout. He likely thought he could gain entry to the offensive zone without much resistance, considering the score, as games typically become a game of waiting for the clock to run out without getting hurt when there's a lopsided score. What Barron should have accounted for is that the defenseman he was attacking open-ice on was Trouba, and he doesn't care about the time or the score. Barron ducked his head at the last second, and Trouba popped him with a shoulder to the chest.

Was there some head contact? Yes, but it was because Barron ducked his head. The principal point of contact was Trouba's shoulder into Barron's chest, which would've been the case if Barron had been more aware. I'm not saying the hit wouldn't have hurt if he didn't lower his head, but it wouldn't have been as ugly as the result. Barron looked dazed on the ice, failed to get up the first couple of times, and went immediately to the dressing room. There was no update after the game or the following day, but it's safe to assume the training staff checked him for a concussion."
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 4:18 PM ET
He keeps his head up to see it coming he doesn't get hurt.

Peep the headline.

https://awinninghabit.com...e-more-aware-01jawpnhenwv

"I know Jacob Trouba doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt after his many questionable hits to the head. He likes sticking out his elbow and finishing an open-ice hit on an opponent, which people will never respect. However, that doesn't mean he can't throw a clean, punishing, open-ice hit for the rest of his career without it being dirty. Trouba's hit on Justin Barron on Tuesday night was clean, and Barron must be more aware when he's on the ice against a player like Trouba.

Barron tried to carry the puck up the ice in the third period of a blowout. He likely thought he could gain entry to the offensive zone without much resistance, considering the score, as games typically become a game of waiting for the clock to run out without getting hurt when there's a lopsided score. What Barron should have accounted for is that the defenseman he was attacking open-ice on was Trouba, and he doesn't care about the time or the score. Barron ducked his head at the last second, and Trouba popped him with a shoulder to the chest.

Was there some head contact? Yes, but it was because Barron ducked his head. The principal point of contact was Trouba's shoulder into Barron's chest, which would've been the case if Barron had been more aware. I'm not saying the hit wouldn't have hurt if he didn't lower his head, but it wouldn't have been as ugly as the result. Barron looked dazed on the ice, failed to get up the first couple of times, and went immediately to the dressing room. There was no update after the game or the following day, but it's safe to assume the training staff checked him for a concussion."

- DirtyDan


"At the risk of piling on, Barron's lack of awareness of this play is a microcosm of a more significant issue. He lacks awareness all over the ice, and that was on display on a couple of Rangers goals on Tuesday night. The offensive game is one of Barron's strengths, but he sometimes needs to catch up in the defensive zone. The Canadiens moved defensemen out this offseason to give him a full-time spot in the lineup, but he has yet to seize that moment. Luckily for Barron, the rest of the blue line isn't playing well either, so he may not lose his spot if he has to miss any time from this hit. However, there will have to be a discussion about him in the future."


This is a Montreal Canadians News article by the way.


DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Oct 24 @ 4:22 PM ET
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