They're on a 3 game winning streak and they're 6 games in. If you want to factor in last year individually, fine you are obviously accurate. But I don't think many were complaining when they won the division and got one game from western conference finals. He gets a goal and 2 assists next game and it already doesn't look so bad. He gets a hatty and it's a non-issue. Guy scores in bunches, always has.

Can't argue that he is paid to be a scorer, but everyone is primarily paid to win. They've won the last 3 games he has made a few nice passes and drives to net that have resulted in goals. He's also contributed to the wins in that they ended up with more goals than the other team ... and he was on the ice a significant amount of time.
- Sayros

What does it matter if it's 6 games in, or 26, or 66 games in? Good habits should start game 1.

I think that's why some get so frustrated during pre-season games. Get your rosters set early, work on developing line chemisty, and hit the regular season running.

A good start can make a season a whole lot less stressful. For teams and fans alike.

What does it matter if it's 6 games in, or 26, or 66 games in? Good habits should start game 1.

I think that's why some get so frustrated during pre-season games. Get your rosters set early, work on developing line chemisty, and hit the regular season running.

A good start can make a season a whole lot less stressful. For teams and fans alike.
- bloatedmosquito

Because for context, it matters, that's why. Pettersson has great habits, which is why he had the most ice-time by any forward, by almost 2 minutes, versus Chicago. Toc isn't going to give him ice like that if he's not playing well at both ends of the ice. He had some great defensive plays that game and he had three or four good offensive chances too.

Pettersson's last 34 games (incl PO's) he has not one 5/5 goal. Not one. Let that sink in for a bit. Yes we are all aware he's getting better at 200' play in a 'Barkov' Style role lol but at 11.6 mil he's paid to score.

So the Miller thing is good JT is probably fed up with his attitude and play. OK in Petey's defense he needs better linemates than Garland Hogs but still he has to make sh!t happen out there especially at 5/5 play. He's being paid like a 110 point player it's time for him to buck up and start filling the fucking net like he is caopable. Folks need to stop making excuses for the guy. Score.
- LordHumungous

Zak Hyman might be trending in that direction lol

Because for context, it matters, that's why. Pettersson has great habits, which is why he had the most ice-time by any forward, by almost 2 minutes, versus Chicago. Toc isn't going to give him ice like that if he's not playing well at both ends of the ice. He had some great defensive plays that game and he had three or four good offensive chances too.
- Pacificgem

He gets one goal more will come, that’s the way it goes.

Love it. I hope JTM beats the (frank) of him the next time he's a little b*tch.

Dhaliwal on Miller and Pettersson:

Rumors of these 2 players having a rift has been out there since the Green days, Boudreau as well. The team is well aware of it, the agents are well aware of it. You have to live under a rock if you haven't heard about a possible rift.

What does it matter if it's 6 games in, or 26, or 66 games in? Good habits should start game 1.

I think that's why some get so frustrated during pre-season games. Get your rosters set early, work on developing line chemisty, and hit the regular season running.

A good start can make a season a whole lot less stressful. For teams and fans alike.
- bloatedmosquito

I don't think scoring is a habit. It's already been evaluated that his defensive and 200 foot game is better. One would hope that good habits result in more scoring chances, but actually putting up points isn't a habit. Yes some more finish would be nice. If the canucks were 0-4-2 I could understand the level of heat a little more, but it seems blown out of proportion for the greater canuck team body of work.

Totally agree with you on pre-season. I've also been harping on that for years, they changed last year and the reverted back for some reason.

Because for context, it matters, that's why. Pettersson has great habits, which is why he had the most ice-time by any forward, by almost 2 minutes, versus Chicago. Toc isn't going to give him ice like that if he's not playing well at both ends of the ice. He had some great defensive plays that game and he had three or four good offensive chances too.
- Pacificgem

Yes, yes, we all know your thoughts and I'm sure over time it will all work out but it's worth discussing at the moment in a non-freakout manner. Just banter.

Management is still trying to find ways to get him going and guys that can play with him. He's played both centre and wing. He's had a revolving door of players on his wing. They have even gone out and traded and signed really good players to play with him (Lindholm/DeBrusk) and they all don't work as expected.

But maybe expectations are too high. But everyday he doesn't score, the conversations will get louder and louder. So prepare yourself, get those pompoms dusted off, and get those excuses ready if things don't improve.

Yes, yes, we all know your thoughts and I'm sure over time it will all work out but it's worth discussing at the moment in a non-freakout manner. Just banter.

Management is still trying to find ways to get him going and guys that can play with him. He's played both centre and wing. He's had a revolving door of players on his wing. They have even gone out and traded and signed really good players to play with him (Lindholm/DeBrusk) and they all don't work as expected.

But maybe expectations are too high. But everyday he doesn't score, the conversations will get louder and louder. So prepare yourself, get those pompoms dusted off, and get those excuses ready if things don't improve.
- bloatedmosquito

Maybe he needs to play with a couple of other entitled b*tches?

Yes, yes, we all know your thoughts and I'm sure over time it will all work out but it's worth discussing at the moment in a non-freakout manner. Just banter.

Management is still trying to find ways to get him going and guys that can play with him. He's played both centre and wing. He's had a revolving door of players on his wing. They have even gone out and traded and signed really good players to play with him (Lindholm/DeBrusk) and they all don't work as expected.

But maybe expectations are too high. But everyday he doesn't score, the conversations will get louder and louder. So prepare yourself, get those pompoms dusted off, and get those excuses ready if things don't improve.
- bloatedmosquito

Meh…it’s just noise from people who don’t matter. Last year at this time, everyone was whining because he wasn’t signed, they said he didn’t want to play here, blah blah blah. So then he signs has some injuries and his confidence is suffering so now everybody wants to run him out of town. It’s Brock Boeser 2.0, Vancouver fans & media are idiots for the most part.

Meh…it’s just noise from people who don’t matter. Last year at this time, everyone was whining because he wasn’t signed, they said he didn’t want to play here, blah blah blah. So then he signs has some injuries and his confidence is suffering so now everybody wants to run him out of town. It’s Brock Boeser 2.0, Vancouver fans & media are idiots for the most part.
- Pacificgem

What's your obsession with wanting fans to be sensible? As you said it don't matter what they think so what's the harm in them being lunatics?

What's your obsession with wanting fans to be sensible? As you said it don't matter what they think so what's the harm in them being lunatics?
- bloatedmosquito

He's the Tucker Carlson of HB! 🤣

What's your obsession with wanting fans to be sensible? As you said it don't matter what they think so what's the harm in them being lunatics?
- bloatedmosquito

Honestly, I don't care, I have absolutely no control over it. You're wrongly interpreting this as I want fans to change. Sure it's annoying, but I understand the passion, it's completely in-the-moment passion, they seemingly have no long term vision. Today's world in a nutshell.

I'm not trying to change it, I'm just stating the obvious. Management won't let things get out of hand but they also won't make a short-sighted decision, 82 games is a long haul, as is an eight year contract.

Meh…it’s just noise from people who don’t matter. Last year at this time, everyone was whining because he wasn’t signed, they said he didn’t want to play here, blah blah blah. So then he signs has some injuries and his confidence is suffering so now everybody wants to run him out of town. It’s Brock Boeser 2.0, Vancouver fans & media are idiots for the most part.
- Pacificgem

Agreed.

A couple quotes from Drance's recent article...:

“You can look at the stats and say I stink,” Pettersson said to a scrum of reporters following Canucks practice on Wednesday, “but I feel like I’ve been better.”

...

“I think Petey is finding his game, it takes time,” Garland said. “I’ve had starts to the season where you just can’t find your game no matter what, you start to press and it takes longer, but I don’t think he’s pressing. He’s just playing his game. He’s looked good up the middle, holding onto the puck, making plays, good defensively — especially in the third period (in Philadelphia) he was really good defensively.”

You mentioned Boeser, add in Miller, and Garland as well... players have slow bouts, fans turn on them, players turn it around, fans find someone else to complain about. It's Petey's turn right now I guess.

Agreed.

A couple quotes from Drance's recent article...:



You mentioned Boeser, add in Miller, and Garland as well... players have slow bouts, fans turn on them, players turn it around, fans find someone else to complain about. It's Petey's turn right now I guess.
- NewYorkNuck

It's just the nature of passionate markets, things are bad in Philly right now, fans and media are up in arms. Doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it. I'm still going to call the idiots, "idiots"...because that's what an open forum is.

Pettersson breaks out with a few multi-point games and all this will be a distant memory, but again, I won't let the idiots get off so easily, I'll still call them idiots.

It's just the nature of passionate markets, things are bad in Philly right now, fans and media are up in arms. Doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it. I'm still going to call the idiots, "idiots"...because that's what an open forum is.

Pettersson breaks out with a few multi-point games and all this will be a distant memory, but again, I won't let the idiots get off so easily, I'll still call them idiots.
- Pacificgem

You have to expect that when you have 10 or so teams! 😂 🙄

Lafreniere 7 year $7.45M Cap Hit #NYR ext:

Year 1 $2M Base & 8M Signing Bonus
Year 2 $5.5M & 2M SB
Year 3 $8.5M & 1M SB
Year 4 $7.15M
Year 5 to 7: $6M

Years 3-7 include 8 team No Trade List.



Kids becoming a really good player, I think it was Vantel who scoffed at trading for this guy a few years back. (pipedream) He's also the guy who said the Canucks will regret trading Podkolzin too, though. Moron!!
- Pacificgem

I was pushing hard to trade whatever it takes to
Get the kid when he was struggling. Multiple firsts, Pouty, whatever. I was called an idiot by most twats on here.

Listen next time

Love it. I hope JTM beats the (frank) of him the next time he's a little b*tch.

Dhaliwal on Miller and Pettersson:

Rumors of these 2 players having a rift has been out there since the Green days, Boudreau as well. The team is well aware of it, the agents are well aware of it. You have to live under a rock if you haven't heard about a possible rift.
- VanHockeyGuy

Miller is an alpha male. Any strong male would dislike Pouty. It is what it is

Miller is an alpha male. Any strong male would dislike Pouty. It is what it is
- CanuckDon

💯 EP imo is an entitled little b*tch. That's why I'm okay with him getting moved if he doesn't start drinking the Kool-Aid. I hope JTM keeps giving him the business.

💯 EP imo is an entitled little b*tch. That's why I'm okay with him getting moved if he doesn't start drinking the Kool-Aid. I hope JTM keeps giving him the business.
- VanHockeyGuy

I think EP is getting traded. There is definitely some smoke there and his NMC hasn’t kicked in yet

It's just the nature of passionate markets, things are bad in Philly right now, fans and media are up in arms. Doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it. I'm still going to call the idiots, "idiots"...because that's what an open forum is.

Pettersson breaks out with a few multi-point games and all this will be a distant memory, but again, I won't let the idiots get off so easily, I'll still call them idiots.
- Pacificgem

Thank you for being an emotional leader in here and keeping things in perspective and rational.

I was pushing hard to trade whatever it takes to
Get the kid when he was struggling. Multiple firsts, Pouty, whatever. I was called an idiot by most twats on here.

Listen next time
- CanuckDon

Interesting. You would have had patience for a young talented player when he was struggling and seemingly wasn't fitting into the team?

I think EP is getting traded. There is definitely some smoke there and his NMC hasn’t kicked in yet
- CanuckDon

Maybe Carolina is still in the mix? Or a Florida team. Even better San Jose! 😂

Interesting. You would have had patience for a young talented player when he was struggling and seemingly wasn't fitting into the team?
- NewYorkNuck

Are you okay moving him if he's not a good fit on the team?

Interesting. You would have had patience for a young talented player when he was struggling and seemingly wasn't fitting into the team?
- NewYorkNuck

Interesting. You would have had patience for a young talented player when he was struggling and seemingly wasn't fitting into the team?
- NewYorkNuck

Ya because he isn’t a little b!tch