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mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Thursday @ 1:27 PM ET
then talk about those others.

why do the frostsky felators get so upset when posters criticize him? is the criticism valid?

- hello it's me 2050


The Flyers had four forwards that played well last night. Frost, Coots, Michkov and TK. Everyone else was ok or worse. Talk about the 6-7 forwards you get almost nothing out of game in and game out. That's who you should be "mad" at.

I want Foerster, Tippett and Farabee to be good players. All three are not playing well at all right now. Talk about those dudes.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Thursday @ 1:32 PM ET
The Flyers had four forwards that played well last night. Frost, Coots, Michkov and TK. Everyone else was ok or worse. Talk about the 6-7 forwards you get almost nothing out of game in and game out. That's who you should be "mad" at.

I want Foerster, Tippett and Farabee to be good players. All three are not playing well at all right now. Talk about those dudes.

- mickel25

you can talk about them. anyone else can choose to talk about however they want to talk about
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Thursday @ 1:36 PM ET
you can talk about them. anyone else can choose to talk about however they want to talk about
- hello it's me 2050


Agreed it is a free country. Proceed with the Frost Campaign.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Thursday @ 1:50 PM ET
Here is my preliminary watch list:

James Hagens (C) / Anton Frondell (C)

Kashawn Aitcheson (LHD)
Sascha Boumedienne (LHD)
Jackson Smith (LHD)

Emile Guite (LW)



- Glak18[2nd Round]
Cole McKinney (C)
Love Härenstam (G) / Jack Ivankovic (G)

McQueen intrigues me
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Thursday @ 1:55 PM ET
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good listen. last 5 minutes are funny
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Thursday @ 2:10 PM ET
Here is my preliminary watch list:

James Hagens (C) / Anton Frondell (C)

Kashawn Aitcheson (LHD)
Sascha Boumedienne (LHD)
Jackson Smith (LHD)

Emile Guite (LW)



- Glak18[2nd Round]
Cole McKinney (C)
Love Härenstam (G) / Jack Ivankovic (G)



Man. We have to get one of those high end centres. It’d be fantastic to add another and a d man in the later first or in the second round. The team is doing its part so far.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Thursday @ 2:15 PM ET
I believe it. I said Johnson months ago as a guy they may target.

Also, players get tired of him is believable knowing his history. If they did fire him and cut the cord completely. Would love to see if Torts then buries the orgini-eye-zation at some point.

The core of this team should have been moved years ago. To keep this losing group around is/was a bad idea. This group just doesn't work.

- hello it's me 2050


Shouldve started with Jake and G shouldve been moved years before they were. When hextall wanted a rebuild but also keep to those guys..............spinning wheels ever since
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Thursday @ 2:20 PM ET
then talk about those others.

why do the frostsky felators get so upset when posters criticize him? is the criticism valid?

- hello it's me 2050


No one has issues with criticizing him, just be fair about it. Frost is not the sole reason the Flyers are bad. In fairness to Frost, he is playing above his means due to the lack of elite talent. He is not a #1 C just as Sanheim is not a #1 D Both are being asked to play at a higher level then they are capable of. So it is natural for them to not look great but he still does need to be better. Without Michkov he is non existent.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Thursday @ 2:43 PM ET
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good listen. last 5 minutes are funny

- hello it's me 2050


That would pure comedic gold, LOL!!! Could not agree more and the Doc Rivers comparison is great
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Thursday @ 2:58 PM ET
McQueen intrigues me
- 2Real


Flyers aren't going to get multiple top 10 picks either and no they are not going to trade up to get one.

McQueen is injured right now, but it's ANOTHER "TAGE CLONE". He would be a good player to add to the pool, but if that's the Flyers top pick of the draft they are screwed more than they are now. He's maybe 5 years away, maybe 6 the way the Flyers handle prospects.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Thursday @ 3:03 PM ET
Man. We have to get one of those high end centres. It’d be fantastic to add another and a d man in the later first or in the second round. The team is doing its part so far.
- Hextall271


Flyers need to finish as far to the bottom and get luck, lots of luck. Only the Flyers could end up with the worst record and then end up drafting 3rd. Still a good pick, but I just want the best position available to secure a high end player.

As of right now, things will change months from now, if the Flyers get that top center then the rest is just gravy on top. Hopefully a couple defensemen in the mid 1st to early 20's then pickup a 1st round dropper and hopefully another goaltender to add to the mix.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Thursday @ 3:03 PM ET
Flyers aren't going to get multiple top 10 picks either and no they are not going to trade up to get one.
- Glak18

They won’t get multiple top 10 but they could get another one in 12-14 range with some smart trading and maybe snag one of Desnoyers or OBrien if they fall a bit.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Thursday @ 3:16 PM ET
Flyers need to finish as far to the bottom and get luck, lots of luck. Only the Flyers could end up with the worst record and then end up drafting 3rd. Still a good pick, but I just want the best position available to secure a high end player.

As of right now, things will change months from now, if the Flyers get that top center then the rest is just gravy on top. Hopefully a couple defensemen in the mid 1st to early 20's then pickup a 1st round dropper and hopefully another goaltender to add to the mix.

- Glak18


I really hope this comes to pass. Hey a tender in later rounds. I’m being greedy but almost anyone is avail imo so we can get more picks this draft. I want to see is having multiple young promising players in the a that can be called up to fight it out for bottom 6 roles etc.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Thursday @ 3:17 PM ET
They won’t get multiple top 10 but they could get another one in 12-14 range with some smart trading and maybe snag one of Desnoyers or OBrien if they fall a bit.
- psuhockey


right now neither are nhl players. Elliot may be some day, but why on earth would we use a first or second round pick for another JOB type? (maybe a 6th or 7th rounder)
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Thursday @ 3:26 PM ET
right now neither are nhl players. Elliot may be some day, but why on earth would we use a first or second round pick for another JOB type? (maybe a 6th or 7th rounder)
- Peter Richards



He was talking about Caleb Desnoyers.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Thursday @ 3:28 PM ET
right now neither are nhl players. Elliot may be some day, but why on earth would we use a first or second round pick for another JOB type? (maybe a 6th or 7th rounder)
- Peter Richards

I am talking about Caleb his brother first line center for Canada at the Hlinka and Jake OBrien, OHL rookie of the year last year.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...y-first-round-draft-list/
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Thursday @ 3:40 PM ET
I am talking about Caleb his brother first line center for Canada at the Hlinka and Jake OBrien, OHL rookie of the year last year.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...y-first-round-draft-list/

- psuhockey


my bad then.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Thursday @ 3:43 PM ET
They won’t get multiple top 10 but they could get another one in 12-14 range with some smart trading and maybe snag one of Desnoyers or OBrien if they fall a bit.
- psuhockey


Not necessarily. If the Avs suck and get a top 10 pick. They may be willing to move it to try to win next season. I dont know that they will flat out give it away without a 1st coming back but perhaps Konecny and EDM 1st gets it done especially if Landeskog still shows no signs of returning and Nichuskin gets terminated for violating the substance abuse program again

Maybe another team might be desperate enogh to get back in the mix as well. Nashville might fit that bill. Yzerman has been making questionable decisions of late so maybe he would part with the pick to try and be a playoff team

I think there may be opportunities to jump on some desperate teams. I wouldnt bet on it but theres at least a small chance.

Briere thinks this team was close which is why they re-signed Konecny, if that mindset changes due to a poor season this year then he may pivot and move him before the draft.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Thursday @ 3:46 PM ET
Not necessarily. If the Avs suck and get a top 10 pick. They may be willing to move it to try to win next season. I dont know that they will flat out give it away without a 1st coming back but perhaps Konecny and EDM 1st gets it done especially if Landeskog still shows no signs of returning and Nichuskin gets terminated for violating the substance abuse program again

Maybe another team might be desperate enogh to get back in the mix as well. Nashville might fit that bill. Yzerman has been making questionable decisions of late so maybe he would part with the pick to try and be a playoff team

I think there may be opportunities to jump on some desperate teams. I wouldnt bet on it but theres at least a small chance.

Briere thinks this team was close which is why they re-signed Konecny, if that mindset changes due to a poor season this year then he may pivot and move him before the draft.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Aves pick is top 10 protected and Edmontons is top 12.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Thursday @ 3:58 PM ET
Aves pick is top 10 protected and Edmontons is top 12.
- psuhockey


I know that is why I suggest Avs might trade it. If its top 10 protected the Avs keep it and can trade it for help. EDM pick is going to be higher than 12. They will make the playoffs.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Thursday @ 4:02 PM ET
Thoughts on Luchenko?

Odd he was benched for two straight. Torts coming around to he isnt ready or is he doing everything in his power to keep him around? My thinking is that if Torts still loves the kid and wants to keep him, the fact that the Flyers are struggling may make Danny and Jones lean towards sending him back so by scratching him it allows torts more time to try and right the ship. Im thinking if the team is doing well, there is a better chance they decide to keep him rather than keeping him to be on a bottom 5 team
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Thursday @ 4:10 PM ET
They won’t get multiple top 10 but they could get another one in 12-14 range with some smart trading and maybe snag one of Desnoyers or OBrien if they fall a bit.
- psuhockey


What do those players have to do with McQueen?
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Thursday @ 4:12 PM ET
That would pure comedic gold, LOL!!! Could not agree more and the Doc Rivers comparison is great

- Flyfly


He made some good points and was entertaining. What has Torts done to enjoy the undying support of the Flyers fans other than get Fletcher fired and be a Richard?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Thursday @ 4:14 PM ET
They won’t get multiple top 10 but they could get another one in 12-14 range with some smart trading and maybe snag one of Desnoyers or OBrien if they fall a bit.
- psuhockey


A top 5 maybe. Top 10 more likely
A pick between 11-16
A pick in the 20's
3 picks between 33-45

I would be fine with that.


Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Thursday @ 4:23 PM ET
He made some good points and was entertaining. What has Torts done to enjoy the undying support of the Flyers fans other than get Fletcher fired and be a Richard?
- Flyers_01



Exacty!
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