homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Do they pick Peterka without Ralph Krueger involved? Probably not. - Lunaion
I thought Jason Nightingale played a big part in quinn and peterka |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Yeah, just not sure if it was anything more than random luck and not to expect it to happen again for another 15 years. I just don't have a lot of confidence in this org scouting department based on the last ten years or so. I know different GMs and front office personnel, but results often appear similar. Can we even expect a 2nd rd pick like Peterka once every 5 years or is that to optimistic?
2014 2nd Rd, pick 31: Brendan Lemieux
2016 2nd Rd, pick 33: Rasmus Asplund
2017 2nd Rd, pick 37: Marcus Davidsson
2018 2nd Rd, pick 32: Mattias Samuelsson
2020 2nd Rd, pick 34: JJ Peterka
2021 2nd Rd, pick 33: Prokhor Poltapov - BuffaloHerd
Historically, 2nd rounders have about a 30% chance of playing 100+ NHL games. Look it up, Google Historcal Success rate of NHL Draft Prospects. You will fins the success curve by draft selection.
So, lets consider the list from above, and I added the last couple of years
- Brendan Lemieux: 300+
- Rasmus Asplund: 183
- Marcus Davidsson: Zero, Zip, None, Nada
- Mattias Samuelsson: 160 and counting
- JJ Peterka: 169 and counting
- Prokhor Poltapov: too early to tell, currently 16 pts in 21 KHL gms
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- Alexander Kisakov: starting 3rd year in AHL Rochester. Highly l8kely a miss for NHL gms..
- Topias Leinonen: too early to tell, probably not though.
So, out of six (6) 2nd round selection with reasonable amount of time to play NHL games, four (4) have surpassed the 100 game standard of 30% with 67% success rate... double the traditional/historical expectations.
I continue to be astounded by the lack of perspective on this board with regard to expectations from draft prospects.
Once every 5 years, a 2nd Rounder to become a L1 success after 2 years as an expectation? Lol.
13 years of on ice failure has warped us all. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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is 2nd round pick Kisakov hurt or benched in rochester
he has yet to play a game |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Historically, 2nd rounders have about a 30% chance of playing 100+ NHL games. Look it up, Google Historcal Success rate of NHL Draft Prospects. You will fins the success curve by draft selection.
So, lets consider the list from above, and I added the last couple of years
- Brendan Lemieux: 300+
- Rasmus Asplund: 183
- Marcus Davidsson: Zero, Zip, None, Nada
- Mattias Samuelsson: 160 and counting
- JJ Peterka: 169 and counting
- Prokhor Poltapov: too early to tell, currently 16 pts in 21 KHL gms
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- Alexander Kisakov: starting 3rd year in AHL Rochester. Highly l8kely a miss for NHL gms..
- Topias Leinonen: too early to tell, probably not though.
So, out of six (6) 2nd round selection with reasonable amount of time to play NHL games, four (4) have surpassed the 100 game standard of 30% with 67% success rate... double the traditional/historical expectations.
I continue to be astounded by the lack of perspective on this board with regard to expectations from draft prospects.
Once every 5 years, a 2nd Rounder to become a L1 success after 2 years as an expectation? Lol.
13 years of on ice failure has warped us all. - IonSabres
Astounded by a Team and GM who have consistently said they are building through the draft and have only a couple of players they actually drafted playing on there Team. And a bunch of others they drafted who we don't know if they even fit. |
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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Astounded by a Team and GM who have consistently said they are building through the draft and have only a couple of players they actually drafted playing on there Team. And a bunch of others they drafted who we don't know if they even fit. - Buff36
At least 1 player from each draft on the team since KA took over(besides this past draft)
9 players drafted by Buffalo |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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At least 1 player from each draft on the team since KA took over(besides this past draft)
9 players from draft - DirtyDan
Who ? |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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At least 1 player from each draft on the team since KA took over(besides this past draft)
9 players from draft - DirtyDan
from 2014 to 2023 the sabres have had 4 picks in the top 2
12 picks in the top 16
15 picks in the top 32
34 picks in the first 3 rounds
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Who ? - Buff36
benson
kulich
power
quinn/peterka |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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benson
kulich
power
quinn/peterka - homiedclown
Power/Peterka are the only constant at this point. We are still hoping on the other's. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Power/Peterka are the only constant at this point. We are still hoping on the other's. - Buff36
agreed
with all those picks I listed, crazy to see so many holes |
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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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from 2014 to 2023 the sabres have had 4 picks in the top 2
12 picks in the top 16
15 picks in the top 32
34 picks in the first 3 rounds - homiedclown
2020 Quinn Peterka. Nothing else
2021 Power. Rosen Poltapov Novikov Kozak in the pipe.
2022 Savoie Turned McLeod and Jiri Kulich. Ostlund Neuchev Komorov in the pipe.
2023 Benson. Whalberg Strbk Ratzlaff are promising.
2024 to soon
16 for sures or pretty promising prospects since KA tookover. |
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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Power/Peterka are the only constant at this point. We are still hoping on the other's. - Buff36
Quinton Byfield not having to hot of start. You think LA is hitting the panick button with him?
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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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agreed
with all those picks I listed, crazy to see so many holes - homiedclown
Cause they've failed to bring in meaningful surrounding players through FA and trades till just recently.
The draft has been the only bright spot since KA tookover. Everything else has been ran very poorly. |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Quinton Byfield not having to hot of start. You think LA is hitting the panick button with him? - DirtyDan
I don't care about other Teams, I care about a Team who says there building through the Draft and after 5 Years they have 2 players they can count on that they know of and a bunch of ? marks. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Quinton Byfield not having to hot of start. You think LA is hitting the panick button with him? - DirtyDan
byfield with his blah start has 1 less point than benson, kulich, cozens and quinn combined |
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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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I don't care about other Teams, I care about a Team who says there building through the Draft and after 5 Years they have 2 players they can count on that they know of and a bunch of ? marks. - Buff36
Well that's why they're changing the middle six up. Get some new looks maybe break some guys out of their Slump. |
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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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byfield with his blah start has 1 less point than benson, kulich, cozens and quinn combined - homiedclown
Big ole donut in the goal column like Cozens. Panick at the disco? |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Well that's why they're changing the middle six up. Get some new looks maybe break some guys out of their Slump. - DirtyDan
Yep, and it's good to see. You can't just expect to build through the Draft and not bring in good Mentors and Leadership to help those players grow. You can't just count of Draft Picks, it just doesn't happen in the NHL. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Big ole donut in the goal column like Cozens. Panick at the disco? - DirtyDan
trash
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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Yep, and it's good to see. You can't just expect to build through the Draft and not bring in good Mentors and Leadership to help those players grow. You can't just count of Draft Picks, it just doesn't happen in the NHL. - Buff36
Well i did say theyve failed to bring in the surrounding players through FA and trades. Until this year have any made any real impact.
They also failed to distinguish the good players they had at the beginning of KA's takeover and ended up giving away to much for so little. Reinhart, Montour's etc.
Theyve drafted well IMO. You have guys that were taken in the 6th 7th rounds that are promising. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Theyve drafted well IMO. You have guys that were taken in the 6th 7th rounds that are promising. - DirtyDan
we would be a playoff team on a regular basis if the franchise drafted well |
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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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we would be a playoff team on a regular basis if the franchise drafted well - homiedclown
So every pick should be a sure hit and be playing within a couple years.. riiìiiiiiiiighhhtttt |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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So every pick should be a sure hit and be playing within a couple years.. riiìiiiiiiiighhhtttt - DirtyDan
aside from peterka we have zero impact players on this roster that we drafted outside the top 10
with all those picks over 10 years
from 2014 to 2023 the sabres have had 4 picks in the top 2
12 picks in the top 16
15 picks in the top 32
34 picks in the first 3 rounds |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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So every pick should be a sure hit and be playing within a couple years.. riiìiiiiiiiighhhtttt - DirtyDan
No, but you should have some revelation that more than 2 or 3 might help you. And the Sabres still don't know that. Plus now do those picks even fit what Ruff wants. |
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