They took a swing for the fence and it’s appears they missed. They have done enough bad crap but I don’t think I would kill them for this. Do you think they were going to get an established 1D for Cutter?
- psuhockey

No, not at all. But I did have hope they could get a serviceable player that could play defense. If anything his defense is what it is but he is not exactly setting the world on fire w his offense - isn't that supposed to be his game? Most nights he looks lost out there.

Again, hopefully he can turn it around but right now his game is just bad. I want to be wrong and hope I am...

I expect this, but it should never happen. Dear god, he can't get any kind of foot hold in the league if he isn't' given reps and is constantly juggled in and out..FFS
- Hextall271

100%

I get he was considered at potential 1D in his draft year and injuries are part of the issue. Like I said - they need to keep playing the kid and hope he somehow figures it out. Every game I have seen the kid up close I am left with no impression that he will be a 3/4 dman on a decent team.

They have time to figure it out but he is a RFA in 2026-27 so hopefully he gets it together. Otherwise, that 5th overall pick is nothing more than another lost chance to get this team going in the right direction. If he is the same player as he is today I am not extending the kid.
- Flyfly

The whole situation has me very worried. I really thought I'd see him start this year off showing signs of improvement. We absolutely need him to get it together and become a solid top 4. If he ends up a complete bust.. not good..

Flyers have typically drafted ok. They have never hit the jackpot on guys outside of Michkov but they have developed good NHL talent such as Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Ghost, Farabee, York, Ersson, Lindblom, Coots ect. Brink, Foerster, Frost, Luchenko are still TBD. Not all picks become something. All teams have busts.

Flyers issue is that they have never been patient with guys. They are also drafting at a disadvantage due to many picks being middle of the pack or late. It is just harder to find great talent late in the drafts. Tanking is the easier way to get talent like Michkov.

Look at Tampa, the reality is they won the cup by sheer luck. They got Kucherov and Point in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I doubt they win with just Stamkos, Vas and Hedman. The Flyers have yet to strike gold like that. Tampa also had crazy depth too.

Biggest issue for the Flyers has been their action Bias. They have made poor UFA decisions and trade decisions. Good thing about Briere's tenure is that they havent really been dipping into Free Agency. You could argue they dont have the cap but lets be honest, if they wanted to, they could make the room like they have always done in the past. Briere has essentially sat back and let the current kids dictate whether the team will be successful or a failure and having them fail is a good thing. If they can continue to suck we can get another player with potential elite talent.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

The POHO is on record saying they are just waiting for the cap to clear up to enter into free agency again. Stating that Michkov coming over escalated the timeline.
What is clogging up the cap are not assets that they can move. They have to wait

The whole situation has me very worried. I really thought I'd see him start this year off showing signs of improvement. We absolutely need him to get it together and become a solid top 4. If he ends up a complete bust.. not good..
- Hextall271

That is my entire argument. Cutter was a 5OA pick and you need to find value in that trade. Drysdale has a 150 plus games under his belt and is finally healthy. I just want to see some semblance of a top 4 dman. At this point if he tops out of a 3/4 that is fine. I just want to see some progression.

I thought he would bring a lot more to the offensive side but it just has not happened yet.

Bill Meltzer: Game 10: Flyers @ BOS
- bmeltzer

Does anyone know if you can watch the game on demand on Hulu/espn+?

TIA

Flyers have typically drafted ok. They have never hit the jackpot on guys outside of Michkov but they have developed good NHL talent such as Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Ghost, Farabee, York, Ersson, Lindblom, Coots ect. Brink, Foerster, Frost, Luchenko are still TBD. Not all picks become something. All teams have busts.

Flyers issue is that they have never been patient with guys. They are also drafting at a disadvantage due to many picks being middle of the pack or late. It is just harder to find great talent late in the drafts. Tanking is the easier way to get talent like Michkov.

Look at Tampa, the reality is they won the cup by sheer luck. They got Kucherov and Point in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I doubt they win with just Stamkos, Vas and Hedman. The Flyers have yet to strike gold like that. Tampa also had crazy depth too.

Biggest issue for the Flyers has been their action Bias. They have made poor UFA decisions and trade decisions. Good thing about Briere's tenure is that they havent really been dipping into Free Agency. You could argue they dont have the cap but lets be honest, if they wanted to, they could make the room like they have always done in the past. Briere has essentially sat back and let the current kids dictate whether the team will be successful or a failure and having them fail is a good thing. If they can continue to suck we can get another player with potential elite talent.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Take away hitting on superstars, don't most teams hit on and develop NHL talent? How are the Flyers different than literally any NHL team when it comes to drafting?

Unless the team is constantly trading their 1st round picks for a rental/offseason addition/injuries....isn't that EVERY team that has what the Flyers have?

When it comes to drafting, the one outstanding sign of success is whether they hit on an impact player...not whether they get roster depth. So when you look at teams that don't have as many 1st rounders in their lineup like the Flyers is mostly because they don't get to draft them due to trading the pick.

Does anyone know if you can watch the game on demand on Hulu/espn+?

TIA
- corduroy

It is on HULU I believe.

That is my entire argument. Cutter was a 5OA pick and you need to find value in that trade. Drysdale has a 150 plus games under his belt and is finally healthy. I just want to see some semblance of a top 4 dman. At this point if he tops out of a 3/4 that is fine. I just want to see some progression.

I thought he would bring a lot more to the offensive side but it just has not happened yet.
- Flyfly

I think they got a 2nd pick from Anaheim in the deal because of the injury history and at the time, I thought it was a good deal. They really don't have any choice other than to be patient with him and hope he figures it out. He's got some of the tools, he's a great skater, but I worry about his hockey sense.

The whole situation has me very worried. I really thought I'd see him start this year off showing signs of improvement. We absolutely need him to get it together and become a solid top 4. If he ends up a complete bust.. not good..
- Hextall271

I would be worried if he still looked like this at the end of the season. Didn’t think he would improve without game experience.

The POHO is on record saying they are just waiting for the cap to clear up to enter into free agency again. Stating that Michkov coming over escalated the timeline.
What is clogging up the cap are not assets that they can move. They have to wait
- MJL

They can move guys if they really wanted to. Fletcher did at the cost of assets. Flyers could send a pick and Risto to SJ or some other bad team, they could move Farabee, They could move Ellis dead contract, they can move Laughton, Cates, demote Deslaurier. Could have let Poehling and Hathaway go. Tons of ways to make space if you want to.

Unwise moves but moves that fit with everyones narrative of the Flyers.

I think they got a 2nd pick from Anaheim in the deal because of the injury history and at the time, I thought it was a good deal. They really don't have any choice other than to be patient with him and hope he figures it out. He's got some of the tools, he's a great skater, but I worry about his hockey sense.
- Hextall271

Yep, at this point they need to coach this kid hard and hope he figures it out. THe thing is we still don't know how this one will turn out. Like you said, the kid is such a pure skater but I would just like to see him not look lost and have some offensive breakout games.

We wont be able to judge this one for a while. Just hope he starts progressing b/c you said it perfectly - really no other choice right now.

Take away hitting on superstars, don't most teams hit on and develop NHL talent? How are the Flyers different than literally any NHL team when it comes to drafting?

Unless the team is constantly trading their 1st round picks for a rental/offseason addition/injuries....isn't that EVERY team that has what the Flyers have?

When it comes to drafting, the one outstanding sign of success is whether they hit on an impact player...not whether they get roster depth. So when you look at teams that don't have as many 1st rounders in their lineup like the Flyers is mostly because they don't get to draft them due to trading the pick.
- Glak18

I agree. That's why when it is touted that the Flyers have 3 first rounders next year. Hey that's great but how many more 2nd/3rd line solid forwards do the Flyers need? How many top 4 level defenseman?
What the Flyers need are elite players. It's quality at this point that is needed. Those later picks are less likely to result in that.

Take away hitting on superstars, don't most teams hit on and develop NHL talent? How are the Flyers different than literally any NHL team when it comes to drafting?

Unless the team is constantly trading their 1st round picks for a rental/offseason addition/injuries....isn't that EVERY team that has what the Flyers have?

When it comes to drafting, the one outstanding sign of success is whether they hit on an impact player...not whether they get roster depth. So when you look at teams that don't have as many 1st rounders in their lineup like the Flyers is mostly because they don't get to draft them due to trading the pick.
- Glak18

They arent different. That is my point. This is a team that is missing 2 significant pieces. They mneed a #1C and a #1D. They got everything else. The two pieces they need are picks they need to strike gold gold on to get or hope one becomes available which usually only happens if a guy wants out, like Eichel

They can move guys if they really wanted to. Fletcher did at the cost of assets. Flyers could send a pick and Risto to SJ or some other bad team, they could move Farabee, They could move Ellis dead contract, they can move Laughton, Cates, demote Deslaurier. Could have let Poehling and Hathaway go. Tons of ways to make space if you want to.

Unwise moves but moves that fit with everyones narrative of the Flyers.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

A team like SJ doesn't want Ristolainen. If you're gutting the team then why do you want to go into free agency? Your confusing points of where a team is. Trading a pick to move a bad contract is a rebuilding move. Using free agency is a try and win move.

It is on HULU I believe.
- Flyfly

I know --- I wont be home at 6 central - I was asking if you can start from the beginning of the game after it starts

That is my entire argument. Cutter was a 5OA pick and you need to find value in that trade. Drysdale has a 150 plus games under his belt and is finally healthy. I just want to see some semblance of a top 4 dman. At this point if he tops out of a 3/4 that is fine. I just want to see some progression.

I thought he would bring a lot more to the offensive side but it just has not happened yet.
- Flyfly

What is progression to you? Points? Creating chances? Saving goals?

Kind of tough to rack up assists when forwards aren't scoring goals and finishing chances, right?

Is he suppose to shut down the other team? Just this year so far goals against have not been his fault 90%+ of the time....so does he need to progress by telling his partners to be better?

Just going through every single goal the Flyers have given up this year, a lot of it is on Sanheim and York, but they have tougher matchups. So I guess that means getting better players that can matchup better against other teams? How many star players can a team get for a bucket of poop? I guess teams would want a lot of buckets or do they?

Look at the leash that Ghost got when he was here. Talk about dogpoop play, but it was ALWAYS someone else's fault. His partner, how the coach used him and holding him back, blah blah blah. It wasn't just his defensive play that was dogpoop, after his 65 point year he could barely get a puck on net or create anything.

Hurry change the mascot to a blonde Swede!!!
- Glak18

I support this so long as it's a member of the Swedish Bikini Team!

They arent different. That is my point. This is a team that is missing 2 significant pieces. They mneed a #1C and a #1D. They got everything else. The two pieces they need are picks they need to strike gold gold on to get or hope one becomes available which usually only happens if a guy wants out, like Eichel
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

No they don't have everything else. They probably need 2 top centers and 2 legit top pairing defenseman. Potentially a goalie

I know --- I wont be home at 6 central - I was asking if you can start from the beginning of the game after it starts
- corduroy

Yep, I believe you can!

I support this so long as it's a member of the Swedish Bikini Team!
- Letterkenney

Too late the Flyers have already called this mascot...




They want to call him Grundy

lets blame drysdale for getting scored on a lot 5 on 5 when Frost has 0 goals
- 2Real

Let's also blame the 7-8 forwards and 4-5 defenseman that have been bad/terrible this season so far. Michkov-Coots-Konecny-Sanheim-York and maybe Ersson have been ok/good this season. Everyone else needs to pickup the pace.

They are a bad team. Devoid of talent. The real issue is that they will find a way to finish in the bottom 12, not the bottom 5.

They arent different. That is my point. This is a team that is missing 2 significant pieces. They mneed a #1C and a #1D. They got everything else. The two pieces they need are picks they need to strike gold gold on to get or hope one becomes available which usually only happens if a guy wants out, like Eichel
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Do they? A #1C and #1D would be great but they have a hole in goal and still will need at least another legit C prospect.

Let's also blame the 7-8 forwards and 4-5 defenseman that have been bad/terrible this season so far. Michkov-Coots-Konecny-Sanheim-York and maybe Ersson have been ok/good this season. Everyone else needs to pickup the pace.

They are a bad team. Devoid of talent. The real issue is that they will find a way to finish in the bottom 12, not the bottom 5.
- mickel25

The worst possible outcome but very Flyersesque.

Flyers have typically drafted ok. They have never hit the jackpot on guys outside of Michkov but they have developed good NHL talent such as Provorov, Sanheim, Konecny, Ghost, Farabee, York, Ersson, Lindblom, Coots ect. Brink, Foerster, Frost, Luchenko are still TBD. Not all picks become something. All teams have busts.

Flyers issue is that they have never been patient with guys. They are also drafting at a disadvantage due to many picks being middle of the pack or late. It is just harder to find great talent late in the drafts. Tanking is the easier way to get talent like Michkov.

Look at Tampa, the reality is they won the cup by sheer luck. They got Kucherov and Point in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I doubt they win with just Stamkos, Vas and Hedman. The Flyers have yet to strike gold like that. Tampa also had crazy depth too.

Biggest issue for the Flyers has been their action Bias. They have made poor UFA decisions and trade decisions. Good thing about Briere's tenure is that they havent really been dipping into Free Agency. You could argue they dont have the cap but lets be honest, if they wanted to, they could make the room like they have always done in the past. Briere has essentially sat back and let the current kids dictate whether the team will be successful or a failure and having them fail is a good thing. If they can continue to suck we can get another player with potential elite talent.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

good fn lord. yeah, all luck. noting else. one of the best run teams is all luck. hysterical

they haven't gone the free agent route yet is no top end players want to play here. I can't wait until they do have $$ to see what 2dn tier guy they pay 1st tier money to. Or the name vet who is on the downside.