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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Yesterday @ 8:54 AM ET
Wow, two primary assists and 3 secondary apples in TEN games! He is on fire!! I guess we'll ignore the -12 too while we are at it.
- Phillywhiteout


You're acting like a fool. As I said, I have criticized Frost for his overall play this season. So your insinuation that I'm ignoring anything, is idiotic.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Yesterday @ 8:55 AM ET
Frost is clearly in a slump but a lot of the anit-Frost talking points don't quite equate to reality, i.e., faceoffs, defensive responsibilities / play away from the puck. 11 minutes for him against Boston means Tortorella still has him on a tight lead and it also means players like Poehling are seeing way too much ice time game in, game out, IMO. I also think Farabee isn't being properly deployed. A lot of NHL coaches try and instill chemistry with 2 key players on a line - until that 3rd player gels in nicely with the existing chemistry of the main/initial paired players. If Frost plays regular shifts with at least one main player to establish and build chemistry I think that will help him come out of his slump faster.
- Pixote Andolini


I think he should move to wing. Free him up to focus on offense more. He is fine at center. I just think longterm he is a winger.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Yesterday @ 8:55 AM ET
So Trump bad…got it …everyone gets it. It’s literally Kamala’s slogan and entire campaign and her answer to every question….what will Kamala do that’s good? Try answering with out using Trumps name….if you succeed you’ll have done something the person you want in the white house has not been able to do.
- landros 2


Outstanding post.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Yesterday @ 8:56 AM ET
I think he should move to wing. Free him up to focus on offense more. He is fine at center. I just think longterm he is a winger.
- mickel25


Frost? He's played center his entire career.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Yesterday @ 8:56 AM ET
Frost is clearly in a slump but a lot of the anit-Frost talking points don't quite equate to reality, i.e., faceoffs, defensive responsibilities / play away from the puck. 11 minutes for him against Boston means Tortorella still has him on a tight lead and it also means players like Poehling are seeing way too much ice time game in, game out, IMO. I also think Farabee isn't being properly deployed. A lot of NHL coaches try and instill chemistry with 2 key players on a line - until that 3rd player gels in nicely with the existing chemistry of the main/initial paired players. If Frost plays regular shifts with at least one main player to establish and build chemistry I think that will help him come out of his slump faster.
- Pixote Andolini
I agree with the two forward system and I think Frost should play with Tippett. The problem is that they don't seem to have the same chemistry as they have in the past. just give it a try and leave the lines alone for awhile. They actually looked pretty cohesive for the first time this season the other night. Frost was getting a good bit more than 11 minutes a game before, but he simply doesn't seem to take advantage of chances. It's a contract year. He needs to wake up fast!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 8:59 AM ET
So Trump bad…got it …everyone gets it. It’s literally Kamala’s slogan and entire campaign and her answer to every question….what will Kamala do that’s good? Try answering with out using Trumps name….if you succeed you’ll have done something the person you want in the white house has not been able to do.
- landros 2

yet 90 million dumb Americans will vote her in office. beyond mind boggling.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Yesterday @ 9:00 AM ET
Frost? He's played center his entire career.
- MJL

Yeah Frost needs to play center. I think he needs to see regular time with one main quality winger, Tippett, Farabee, Konecny, or Michkov. Frost should be playing 16-18 minutes a night IMO.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Yesterday @ 9:01 AM ET
yet 90 million dumb Americans will vote her in office. beyond mind boggling.
- hello it's me 2050


I’m not a fan of 45….but I really wish the Dems had put up someone that doesn’t resemble DEI hire.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Yesterday @ 9:03 AM ET
Frost? He's played center his entire career.
- MJL


I am aware. I think his offensive output would be maximized on the wing. The Flyers' roster cannot accommodate a move like that though. No center depth and relatively good depth on wing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Yesterday @ 9:04 AM ET
I am aware. I think his offensive output would be maximized on the wing. The Flyers' roster cannot accommodate a move like that though. No center depth and relatively good depth on wing.
- mickel25


Why would his offensive output be maximized playing on the wing.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Yesterday @ 9:05 AM ET
I’m not a fan of 45….but I really wish the Dems had put up someone that doesn’t resemble DEI hire.
- landros 2
She reminds me of a substitute teacher for some reason. I'm not gonna be happy with either one winning, but I've seen his act long enough. If he loses this election he will be sent packing by the Republicans cause in reality this should be a cinch win for them.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Yesterday @ 9:05 AM ET
Yeah Frost needs to play center. I think he needs to see regular time with one main quality winger, Tippett, Farabee, Konecny, or Michkov. Frost should be playing 16-18 minutes a night IMO.
- Pixote Andolini


Frost has played like crap….I have been a supporter of this kid since his Jr days. It just hasn’t manifested itself into a CONSISTENT result. Yes there are times when he’s looked like a legit #2 C…something the Flyers desperately need…I fear he’s just not going to realize all that potential…at least here in Philly.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Yesterday @ 9:06 AM ET
Why would his offensive output be maximized playing on the wing.
- MJL


He has less defensive responsibility on wing.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Yesterday @ 9:09 AM ET
I’m not a fan of 45….but I really wish the Dems had put up someone that doesn’t resemble DEI hire.
- landros 2

the GOP had many other strong candidates that would have won easily if they didn't hitch their wagon to the Donald.

this lady is a twit and in no way should be president. the downfall of the USA will be expeditated greatly. USA adversaries can't wait.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Yesterday @ 9:09 AM ET
He has less defensive responsibility on wing.
- mickel25


Not a major difference. Playing wing puts him more along the wall. His best attribute offensively is his playmaking and puck distribution. You want him in the middle of the ice as much as possible. You want him to have the puck more. Putting him on the wing will hurt him offensively in my opinion.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Yesterday @ 9:10 AM ET
She reminds me of a substitute teacher for some reason. I'm not gonna be happy with either one winning, but I've seen his act long enough. If he loses this election he will be sent packing by the Republicans cause in really this should be a cinch win for them.
- Phillywhiteout


His act wore on everyone…his Policies probably won’t be the best for some of my investments…but it’s bigger then that for me…his ability to keep the world a safer place is the reason I hope he wins….I could give a poop if he’s buddies with Putin ( And I’m Ukrainian) or little rocket man….I care that there are not wars and innocent people around the world aren’t killed.
I see nothing redeeming about her except she’s not Trump.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Yesterday @ 9:11 AM ET
ok corky the value went up because of fans like you and the great job they are doing with the rebuild. my bad.
- hello it's me 2050


Their value went up 35%, but they dropped from 7th most valuable to 8th. I'm sure there was a lot of back slapping for the Triumvirate.

According to an article in the Inqy the Flyers say that "the season-ticket base is the largest in four years, with a 375% increase in new fans since 2022-23, and a 96% season-ticket member renewal, the best in a decade." Hard to believe.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Yesterday @ 9:16 AM ET
Our Prime Minister is a joke
- 3flyerkids

Well the slogan is “make America great again” and yet we do have a lot of Canadian in Canada who debate with the fury of a thousand suns as if they have a dog in the race. American don’t care about Canada, so why do they care about America? I mean, I am Canadian but I live in Michigan.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Yesterday @ 9:18 AM ET
His act wore on everyone…his Policies probably won’t be the best for some of my investments…but it’s bigger then that for me…his ability to keep the world a safer place is the reason I hope he wins….I could give a poop if he’s buddies with Putin ( And I’m Ukrainian) or little rocket man….I care that there are not wars and innocent people around the world aren’t killed.
I see nothing redeeming about her except she’s not Trump.

- landros 2
I can't argue with any of this unfortunately. Hell, if Vance was the candidate I'd prolly vote for him. I'm not saying that she is the answer and the foreign affairs scare the $hit out of me to be honest. I just can't stomach the Donald for 4 more years. My brother is voting for Trump, but even he described him as a despicable man and said if he was in this room right now he wouldn't go over and shake his hand. Trump has alienated far too many people for his own good. It's really a shame that I can't vote Republican in this instance. Sorry bout that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Yesterday @ 9:25 AM ET
I can't argue with any of this unfortunately. Hell, if Vance was the candidate I'd prolly vote for him. I'm not saying that she is the answer and the foreign affairs scare the $hit out of me to be honest. I just can't stomach the Donald for 4 more years. My brother is voting for Trump, but even he described him as a despicable man and said if he was in this room right now he wouldn't go over and shake his hand. Trump has alienated far too many people for his own good. It's really a shame that I can't vote Republican in this instance. Sorry bout that.
- Phillywhiteout



I can't resist. Are you voting for personality or policy? Donald Trump is not going to be my friend. I'm not going to have him over the house for family functions. Not going to be going out to dinner or for a beer.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Yesterday @ 9:27 AM ET
His act wore on everyone…his Policies probably won’t be the best for some of my investments…but it’s bigger then that for me…his ability to keep the world a safer place is the reason I hope he wins….I could give a poop if he’s buddies with Putin ( And I’m Ukrainian) or little rocket man….I care that there are not wars and innocent people around the world aren’t killed.
I see nothing redeeming about her except she’s not Trump.

- landros 2

Thats the one and only thing she has going for her she is not Trump. She has absolutely no qualifications to be President. Sad if GOP had run someone else like Haley she would have beaten Harris in a landside and vice versa. If Dems had run a qualified candidate against Trump they would have won easily. . Dont like Trump as a person one bit but he is America first..he will put an end to boarder craziness and the woke insanity along with a much better chance of stabilizing foreign affairs
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Yesterday @ 9:29 AM ET
I can't argue with any of this unfortunately. Hell, if Vance was the candidate I'd prolly vote for him. I'm not saying that she is the answer and the foreign affairs scare the $hit out of me to be honest. I just can't stomach the Donald for 4 more years. My brother is voting for Trump, but even he described him as a despicable man and said if he was in this room right now he wouldn't go over and shake his hand. Trump has alienated far too many people for his own good. It's really a shame that I can't vote Republican in this instance. Sorry bout that.
- Phillywhiteout


By all accounts so many people that have interacted with Trump behind the scenes say the exact opposite of what you describe.
Being from Queens NY I think he has that attitude that if you attack him he will go right back after you.
For sure he has said some cringeworthy things. There are policies he has I don’t agree with.
I wish he was a government d as pending hawk and cut government spending dramatically.
I also don’t think one should be arrested or fined for burning the flag. If your on a student visa and burn the US flag you do get sent home though.
I’m not really invested in green energy so I’m not so worried about that.
Kommiela would be a figurehead if she is elected. If that were to happen this country will not be run in the interest of the citizens of this country.
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Yesterday @ 9:31 AM ET
I can't argue with any of this unfortunately. Hell, if Vance was the candidate I'd prolly vote for him. I'm not saying that she is the answer and the foreign affairs scare the $hit out of me to be honest. I just can't stomach the Donald for 4 more years. My brother is voting for Trump, but even he described him as a despicable man and said if he was in this room right now he wouldn't go over and shake his hand. Trump has alienated far too many people for his own good. It's really a shame that I can't vote Republican in this instance. Sorry bout that.
- Phillywhiteout

Trump is a buffoon but his policies are strong and America first. I also wouldnt shake his hand, invite him to dinner, play golf with him but I will vote for him. This country is a mess and Harris isnt the answer
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Yesterday @ 9:33 AM ET
I can't resist. Are you voting for personality or policy? Donald Trump is not going to be my friend. I'm not going to have him over the house for family functions. Not going to be going out to dinner or for a beer.
- MJL
A combination although in this case it may be more about his personality. I simply despise the man and the media has NOTHING to do with it. I just hate his type! She says she's gonna take care of the middle class and small business owners (we get killed with taxes)? I hope she isn't lying. If he wins, I won't even be upset cause I think he will be better at foreign affairs which is a major concern. If she wins I probably won't be all that happy cause I certainly have my concerns about her. If he loses he needs to simply look in the mirror. Many Republicans have turned on him and us independents are leaning away from him as well. For the record, I haven't voted yet and I could still have a change of heart. I wanna vote Republican, but he simply won't allow it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Yesterday @ 9:47 AM ET
A combination although in this case it may be more about his personality. I simply despise the man and the media has NOTHING to do with it. I just hate his type! She says she's gonna take care of the middle class and small business owners (we get killed with taxes)? I hope she isn't lying. If he wins, I won't even be upset cause I think he will be better at foreign affairs which is a major concern. If she wins I probably won't be all that happy cause I certainly have my concerns about her. If he loses he needs to simply look in the mirror. Many Republicans have turned on him and us independents are leaning away from him as well. For the record, I haven't voted yet and I could still have a change of heart. I wanna vote Republican, but he simply won't allow it.
- Phillywhiteout


I'll say this and then I'll step aside. His personality does not affect me. It's about policy. You say she says she will help the middle class and small business and you hope she not lying. You can go with that or you can compare how it was with Trump in office, sans pandemic versus how it has been with Biden/Harris. If you vote for Harris and she wins. You get what you deserve. This is America and I support your right to vote for who you want. I would just suggest that you be an informed voter.
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