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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Saturday @ 7:25 PM ET
I wonder if we are going to see another one with his declining health.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

je excuse. Does he have cancer?
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Saturday @ 7:39 PM ET
I wonder if we are going to see another one with his declining health.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Possibly in December when they play the Wild again.



mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Saturday @ 8:19 PM ET
It also means you don't have possession of the puck.
- MBFlyerfan

Yes, probably the most important one I left out
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Saturday @ 8:22 PM ET
I’m watching Leafs/Blues. Blues are looking to block everything.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Saturday @ 8:22 PM ET
Anyone who watches these games and comes away thinking they are a good team, on the right path, or have a bright future needs their heads examined.
- furio16

The only thing harder to watch are the between periods and post game crew members
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Saturday @ 8:46 PM ET
I’m watching Leafs/Blues. Blues are looking to block everything.
- roenick97

They learned from the Torts grind clinic on Thursday. But the Blues creating way more offense than the flyers have lately.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Saturday @ 8:49 PM ET
are any of the forwards alive?
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Saturday @ 9:26 PM ET
are any of the forwards alive?
- 2Real


I do wonder what is the realistic expectation how many of the following fwds under the age of 25 will be here 2 yrs from now- Farabee, Frost, Tippett, Foerster, and Brink.

Certainly the fwds will need a makeover at some point.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Saturday @ 9:52 PM ET
In his post game Torts said Michkov made a free nice plays to set up offensive chances, translation we got no one on this team that can finish or even get a shot on net! It’s got to frustrating for Michkov to play on this team right now. Briere has got to cut bait with frost and bring a real center for this team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Saturday @ 9:57 PM ET
In his post game Torts said Michkov made a free nice plays to set up offensive chances, translation we got no one on this team that can finish or even get a shot on net! It’s got to frustrating for Michkov to play on this team right now. Briere has got to cut bait with frost and bring a real center for this team.
- jd250


Michkov is not playing with Frost. Are you saying that Tortorellla is saying that Konecny can't finish? Tippett can't finish? Foerster can't finish? Farabee cant finish?Frost has been bad to this point in the season but he is far from the only player. What "real center" are the Flyers going to be able to get and why the hell should they do that? For what? Your comments continue to be asinine.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Saturday @ 10:08 PM ET
Michkov is not playing with Frost. Are you saying that Tortorellla is saying that Konecny can't finish? Tippett can't finish? Foerster can't finish? Farabee cant finish?Frost has been bad to this point in the season but he is far from the only player. What "real center" are the Flyers going to be able to get and why the hell should they do that? For what? Your comments continue to be asinine.
- MJL
You're wrong! Frost played with Michkov and Tippet on at least a few shifts, and I agree that Michkov had some nice passes today that should have ended up in a couple of apples! Frost sucks!! Coots looks exhausted again after that initial shot of adrenaline he got when he started playing with Michkov. Coots was very lazy on that second Brooooooins goal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Saturday @ 10:16 PM ET
You're wrong! Frost played with Michkov and Tippet on at least a few shifts, and I agree that Michkov had some nice passes today that should have ended up in a couple of apples! Frost sucks!!
- Phillywhiteout


Michkov has not been playing regularly with Frost. He's been playing regularly with Couturier and Konecny. I'm not wrong. Frost is not the only player not playing well. If you want to be a fool and single him out. Knock yourself out. Konecny, Couturier, Frost, Tippet, Farabee and Foerester all need to be better and raise their game.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Saturday @ 10:36 PM ET
Michkov has not been playing regularly with Frost. He's been playing regularly with Couturier and Konecny. I'm not wrong. Frost is not the only player not playing well. If you want to be a fool and single him out. Knock yourself out. Konecny, Couturier, Frost, Tippet, Farabee and Foerester all need to be better and raise their game.
- MJL
Tk has scored, Coots has scored, Tippet has scored, Farabee has scored and Foerster has scored. Frost has NOT scored despite having some point blank opportunities. I rest my case.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Saturday @ 10:41 PM ET
Tk has scored, Coots has scored, Tippet has scored, Farabee has scored and Foerster has scored. Frost has NOT scored despite having some point blank opportunities. I rest my case.
- Phillywhiteout


Frost is leading the team in assists. Tippet has 1 goal in 12 games. Farabee has 2 goals and one was an empty netter. Foerster has 2 goals. You don't have much of a case to justify singling out Frost.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Saturday @ 11:14 PM ET
Frost is leading the team in assists. Tippet has 1 goal in 12 games. Farabee has 2 goals and one was an empty netter. Foerster has 2 goals. You don't have much of a case to justify singling out Frost.
- MJL
Good job spindoctoring as usual. He is supposed to be the second line center on this team and he has ZERO goals in 12 games and is a whopping -11! You talk about this team being boring? Frost is the epitome of boring. The only thing exciting about Frosty is his hot Mom!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Saturday @ 11:34 PM ET
Coots on that second goal by the Bruins. I imagine if Torts had his druthers he would bench him for a week. Doesn't get much weaker than that on the back check.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sunday @ 5:28 AM ET
Michkov is not playing with Frost. Are you saying that Tortorellla is saying that Konecny can't finish? Tippett can't finish? Foerster can't finish? Farabee cant finish?Frost has been bad to this point in the season but he is far from the only player. What "real center" are the Flyers going to be able to get and why the hell should they do that? For what? Your comments continue to be asinine.
- MJL

The strength of this team is wing, which granted is backwards when attempting to rebuild into a contending team but none the less that’s what it is. The Flyers are not generating a ton of chances and to me that’s because of the lack of good center play. However too many times the Flyers are passing out of good shooting opportunities or they are missing the net. That’s on the wingers.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sunday @ 5:32 AM ET
Frost is leading the team in assists. Tippet has 1 goal in 12 games. Farabee has 2 goals and one was an empty netter. Foerster has 2 goals. You don't have much of a case to justify singling out Frost.
- MJL

Oh here we go, more useless stats designed to manipulate less informed people like yourself. How many of those assists are secondary? I recall one assist where Frost missed the net from the high slot and the puck luckily bounced off the boards onto TKs stick. Hardly on purpose. How many games this season where Frost has 0 points? That’s what matters!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sunday @ 5:44 AM ET
Frost is supposed to be the skilled center on this team that drives offense. Yet a 19 year old rookie winger drives way more expected goal chances than Frost. Frost loses almost every important ozone face off, that is when he’s not getting thrown out of the dot. He’s been given the chance on the first PP unit and playing with two good wingers. I’ve seen enough. Time to cut bait. I guarantee if the Flyers are out of playoff by Christmas, Frost will lead the team in scoring the second half of the year. Weeee!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sunday @ 5:58 AM ET
Next 3 games are against Carolina, TB and Florida. Won't be pretty
- MJL

Without Ersson it probably will not be pretty, then again I have learned to not underestimate this team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sunday @ 7:13 AM ET
Good job spindoctoring as usual. He is supposed to be the second line center on this team and he has ZERO goals in 12 games and is a whopping -11! You talk about this team being boring? Frost is the epitome of boring. The only thing exciting about Frosty is his hot Mom!
- Phillywhiteout


I'm spindoctoring? You post that Tippett has scored 1 goal in 12 games so he is somehow above Frost when it comes to criticism? You continue to be as dumb as dirt.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sunday @ 7:17 AM ET
The strength of this team is wing, which granted is backwards when attempting to rebuild into a contending team but none the less that’s what it is. The Flyers are not generating a ton of chances and to me that’s because of the lack of good center play. However too many times the Flyers are passing out of good shooting opportunities or they are missing the net. That’s on the wingers.
- jd250


There are many factors to the Flyers struggling to score. Not bearing down on high danger chances. Center play. Lack of transition play by the defense and playing too conservatively as a team in order to try and compete. Which is on Tortorella.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sunday @ 7:18 AM ET
Oh here we go, more useless stats designed to manipulate less informed people like yourself. How many of those assists are secondary? I recall one assist where Frost missed the net from the high slot and the puck luckily bounced off the boards onto TKs stick. Hardly on purpose. How many games this season where Frost has 0 points? That’s what matters!
- jd250


Now assists are useless stats in jd's world. Good to know.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sunday @ 7:25 AM ET
Frost is supposed to be the skilled center on this team that drives offense. Yet a 19 year old rookie winger drives way more expected goal chances than Frost. Frost loses almost every important ozone face off, that is when he’s not getting thrown out of the dot. He’s been given the chance on the first PP unit and playing with two good wingers. I’ve seen enough. Time to cut bait. I guarantee if the Flyers are out of playoff by Christmas, Frost will lead the team in scoring the second half of the year. Weeee!
- jd250


Frost sits at 50.6% overall at faceoffs. He is at 54.8% on the PP and 51.2% overall on offensive zone faceoffs. Obviously your claim that loses almost every important ozone faceoff is not close to being accurate. There is tons of room for criticism in Frost's play to this point of the season but faceoffs is not one of them. It's just another situation where you've created a narrative and it doesn't matter what the facts say, you'll stick to it. Players you like will literally get years of slack cut by you but players you don't. Time to cut bait.


On the season XGF%

Michkov 58.88%
Frost 57.5%

Konecny 52.39% (face of the franchise)
Couturier 48.08%
Tippett 54.52%
Farabee 52.84%

By the way on an unrelated note. Ristolainen sucked like everyone else on the Flyers yesterday. McAvoy was dominant in the game.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sunday @ 7:30 AM ET
I'm spindoctoring? You post that Tippett has scored 1 goal in 12 games so he is somehow above Frost when it comes to criticism? You continue to be as dumb as dirt.
- MJL

hey slapnuts if you want to criticize or talk about other players have at it. JD and others want to talk about Frostsky.

if you do not like that too bad. otherwise stfu you turd.

how is your dad?
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