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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Friday @ 12:40 AM ET
Hell of a game by the Isles tonight
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Friday @ 12:54 AM ET
Hell of a game by the Isles tonight
- nyisles7

Yup, they dominated for most of the game.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Friday @ 6:39 AM ET
Doesn’t make it any less of a pointless trade. We weren’t one Bo Horvat away from being competitive. In all reality we lost that trade because it never should’ve been made in the first place.
- Cptmjl


If you feel that strongly about the Horvat trade. Do you think the team should have traded Barzal since we were not one player away?

Let me say that I agree with you that where not one player away. We are still not one player away.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Friday @ 6:43 AM ET
If you feel that strongly about the Horvat trade. Do you think the team should have traded Barzal since we were not one player away?

Let me say that I agree with you that where not one player away. We are still not one player away.

- Nfdbulldawg

No, Barzal is a couple of years younger so he would have a better chance of being part of a competitive team outside of a retool. This team had no business giving up a first and Raty for anyone at that time imo. We should have been rebuilding after the last covid season. Holding onto assets while unloading some vets for more picks. Lou doesn’t value draft picks. I didn’t say that he did.
We could have been competitive now or next season. Now we are an at best bubble team for the foreseeable future. I just don’t see the point but hey if people like seeing more of what they saw last season and in the playoffs maybe I’m wrong. The attendance doesn’t reflect that though.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Friday @ 6:47 AM ET
Solid game by the Isles last night. JGP and Lee have been dipped in the fountain of youth since playing with Horvat. Solid chemistry.

Wonder what Roy will do when Barzal and Duclair come back. It is bad to mess with chemistry. Just sayin.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Friday @ 11:15 AM ET
Solid game by the Isles last night. JGP and Lee have been dipped in the fountain of youth since playing with Horvat. Solid chemistry.

Wonder what Roy will do when Barzal and Duclair come back. It is bad to mess with chemistry. Just sayin.

- Nfdbulldawg


That Horvat trade was a no brainer. Solid 1st line C who can play with Barzal. The whole timing thing is internet GM hyperbole!
Before a team makes a trade they should go on line and see if the team is one player away in the eyes of the”experts”
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Saturday @ 10:40 AM ET
That Horvat trade was a no brainer. Solid 1st line C who can play with Barzal. The whole timing thing is internet GM hyperbole!
Before a team makes a trade they should go on line and see if the team is one player away in the eyes of the”experts”

- nyisles7


I do not have an issue with the Horvat trade. I know I am in the minority. My original statement was that to date the Isles won that trade. AB, has traveled to several teams. Atu has not become a staple in their lineup. He was our prized prospect at the time. And to be honesty I do not know who the Canucks tool with the 1st rounder sent.

My other statement was that it is interesting to see what happens with Barzal and Duclair when they come back. Given the chemistry that Lee and JGP have had with Horvat and how resurgent both their play has become.

You do not want to break up Syp, Nelly, Palms as they are doing well.

How do you move Duke and Barzy to the third line pairing. and then Who becomes their Center or wing.

I am strictly going by chemistry and production alone. I guess with this team it is good thing to finally have. Just more options to throw out there.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Saturday @ 11:58 AM ET
I do not have an issue with the Horvat trade. I know I am in the minority. My original statement was that to date the Isles won that trade. AB, has traveled to several teams. Atu has not become a staple in their lineup. He was our prized prospect at the time. And to be honesty I do not know who the Canucks tool with the 1st rounder sent.

My other statement was that it is interesting to see what happens with Barzal and Duclair when they come back. Given the chemistry that Lee and JGP have had with Horvat and how resurgent both their play has become.

You do not want to break up Syp, Nelly, Palms as they are doing well.

How do you move Duke and Barzy to the third line pairing. and then Who becomes their Center or wing.

I am strictly going by chemistry and production alone. I guess with this team it is good thing to finally have. Just more options to throw out there.

- Nfdbulldawg


It will be very interesting to see if Horvat, Lee, JGP can continue to the solid play. I cannot see moving Barzal and Duclair to the 3rd line. It is good to have options.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Saturday @ 1:59 PM ET
I do not have an issue with the Horvat trade. I know I am in the minority. My original statement was that to date the Isles won that trade. AB, has traveled to several teams. Atu has not become a staple in their lineup. He was our prized prospect at the time. And to be honesty I do not know who the Canucks tool with the 1st rounder sent.

My other statement was that it is interesting to see what happens with Barzal and Duclair when they come back. Given the chemistry that Lee and JGP have had with Horvat and how resurgent both their play has become.

You do not want to break up Syp, Nelly, Palms as they are doing well.

How do you move Duke and Barzy to the third line pairing. and then Who becomes their Center or wing.

I am strictly going by chemistry and production alone. I guess with this team it is good thing to finally have. Just more options to throw out there.

- Nfdbulldawg

From an instant perspective yes the islanders won the trade. Raty has been underwhelming but who knows what he grows into along with that pick so it’s subject to change. Takes years to really say who truly won. My point was do we really win bcs what exactly does Horvat help the team accomplish? But yeah for right now yes the islanders win the trade.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Saturday @ 3:18 PM ET
I do not have an issue with the Horvat trade. I know I am in the minority. My original statement was that to date the Isles won that trade. AB, has traveled to several teams. Atu has not become a staple in their lineup. He was our prized prospect at the time. And to be honesty I do not know who the Canucks tool with the 1st rounder sent.

My other statement was that it is interesting to see what happens with Barzal and Duclair when they come back. Given the chemistry that Lee and JGP have had with Horvat and how resurgent both their play has become.

You do not want to break up Syp, Nelly, Palms as they are doing well.

How do you move Duke and Barzy to the third line pairing. and then Who becomes their Center or wing.

I am strictly going by chemistry and production alone. I guess with this team it is good thing to finally have. Just more options to throw out there.

- Nfdbulldawg


First bold: If memory serves, no one. I believe they traded that first rounder to Detroit who used it to take a d-man in the Swedish Elite League. I think he's still playing there.

Second bold: Easy. Don't call it the third line, call it the first line. Don't get hung up on 20th century hockey nomenclature. Barzy centers Duclair and maybe someone defensively responsible like Holmstrom.

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Saturday @ 4:08 PM ET
I do not have an issue with the Horvat trade. I know I am in the minority. My original statement was that to date the Isles won that trade. AB, has traveled to several teams. Atu has not become a staple in their lineup. He was our prized prospect at the time. And to be honesty I do not know who the Canucks tool with the 1st rounder sent.

My other statement was that it is interesting to see what happens with Barzal and Duclair when they come back. Given the chemistry that Lee and JGP have had with Horvat and how resurgent both their play has become.

You do not want to break up Syp, Nelly, Palms as they are doing well.

How do you move Duke and Barzy to the third line pairing. and then Who becomes their Center or wing.

I am strictly going by chemistry and production alone. I guess with this team it is good thing to finally have. Just more options to throw out there.

- Nfdbulldawg


We I’m with you obviously on the Horvat trade.
Gotta think he will be the next captain of the team. The “timing” BS about the trade is exactly that, BS. Because some complained about that trade the day it was done and need something to hang there hat on for female doging about it.
When Barzal and Duke come back looking where and who to play them with because the team is playing well without them is a good problem to have.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Saturday @ 4:16 PM ET
First bold: If memory serves, no one. I believe they traded that first rounder to Detroit who used it to take a d-man in the Swedish Elite League. I think he's still playing there.

Second bold: Easy. Don't call it the third line, call it the first line. Don't get hung up on 20th century hockey nomenclature. Barzy centers Duclair and maybe someone defensively responsible like Holmstrom.

- JohnScammo


Well said JS.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Saturday @ 4:21 PM ET
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Saturday @ 6:10 PM ET
JFC Mayfield, what the hell are you thinking?
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Saturday @ 6:30 PM ET
I'll say it again: No team in the NHL deflects more pucks into their own net than the Isles
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Saturday @ 6:31 PM ET
I don't think they get this overturned.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Saturday @ 6:32 PM ET
I don't think they get this overturned.
- JimmyP

Me either.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Saturday @ 6:39 PM ET
Ugh, too bad. They played really well for most of the game.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Saturday @ 6:44 PM ET
Ugh, too bad. They played really well for most of the game.
- JimmyP

Odd they didn't tack five seconds on the clock after that offsides.
Like death and taxes, Mayfield makes a terrible play and an Islander deflects a pick into their own net
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sunday @ 10:17 AM ET
I thought they might squeeze this one out after Nelly's shortie.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sunday @ 12:26 PM ET
SPORTSNET: Elliotte Friedman reports the NHL and NHLPA will examine the possibility of raising the salary cap by between $7 million and $9 million for 2025-26. He indicated that league revenue has “outpaced the guardrails on the salary cap” that were put in place as part of the 2020 Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) during the COVID-19 pandemic.

The cap can rise by a maximum of five percent as per the collective bargaining agreement (CBA). However, it can increase by a wider margin if the league and the PA agree. If they stick with five percent, the cap will rise to $92.5 million for 2025-26. It is currently at $88 million.


This could help the Isles in a big way. Question and forgive me for ignorance. Does the Cap floor rise with the Cap ceiling? Because the Isles might be able unload a Contract or two if it does.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Monday @ 9:31 AM ET
SPORTSNET: Elliotte Friedman reports the NHL and NHLPA will examine the possibility of raising the salary cap by between $7 million and $9 million for 2025-26. He indicated that league revenue has “outpaced the guardrails on the salary cap” that were put in place as part of the 2020 Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) during the COVID-19 pandemic.

The cap can rise by a maximum of five percent as per the collective bargaining agreement (CBA). However, it can increase by a wider margin if the league and the PA agree. If they stick with five percent, the cap will rise to $92.5 million for 2025-26. It is currently at $88 million.


This could help the Isles in a big way. Question and forgive me for ignorance. Does the Cap floor rise with the Cap ceiling? Because the Isles might be able unload a Contract or two if it does.

- Nfdbulldawg


The floor does rise, but there's almost nobody operating at the floor these days.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Monday @ 4:16 PM ET
Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
#Isles injury update, per Lou Lamoriello
- D Mike Reilly has recovered from his concussion but is out indefinitely with a heart condition that was detected during routine medical testing associated with concussion recovery
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Monday @ 4:53 PM ET
Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
#Isles injury update, per Lou Lamoriello
- D Mike Reilly has recovered from his concussion but is out indefinitely with a heart condition that was detected during routine medical testing associated with concussion recovery

- eichiefs9



I'm glad they found the condition and I hope it's not serious and something that can be treated. That being said, it's always something with this team.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Monday @ 8:53 PM ET
Andrew Gross
@AGrossNewsday
#Isles injury update, per Lou Lamoriello
- D Mike Reilly has recovered from his concussion but is out indefinitely with a heart condition that was detected during routine medical testing associated with concussion recovery

- eichiefs9

Wow happy they caught that now.
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