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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 6 @ 10:55 AM ET
Didn't Dubas almost trade a 2 1sts, Knies and Mrazek for Hagel and MAF at the TDL only for it to be shut down by Shanny or was that a nightmare
- Santo_44



That was definitely a rumour - Friedman said that it wasn't true as trading Knies was not something either of Shanahan or Dubas were considering at all.

My guess is that it was post-Dubas release propaganda to help MLSE. This is a company that owns how many media outlets and has contacts with how many reporters, bloggers and other sports "insiders"? They have a decent ability to control a narrative.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 6 @ 11:01 AM ET
yeah


Harris lost DESPITE major shift of affluent voters her way

2020: Trump wins voters over $100K, 54-42
2024: *Harris* wins voters over $100K, 54-45

2020: Biden wins voters $50K-$100K, 57-42
2024: *Trump* w/ voters $50K-$100K, 49-47

2020: Biden wins voters under $50K, 55-45
2024: Trump massive improvement w/ voters under $50K, 49-48
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 6 @ 11:10 AM ET
I have to stop looking at these. going to get ohtani'd again

ARod was 25 years (and a couple of months) old when he qualified for free agency. Here is the league stats from 1996-2000

Juan Soto turned 26 two weeks ago, along with league stats from 2019-2024


https://x.com/tangotiger/...tatus/1854180611507769559
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Nov 6 @ 11:15 AM ET
Not left and not whining, just pointing out facts.
Has nothing to do with the left. But youre too naiive to see that....or part of the group that supports rapist, sexism, felons, amd racism.

- Fakepartofme


Strong TDS here.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Nov 6 @ 11:18 AM ET
well they did circumvent democracy to put forward the worst possible puppet candidate they could find. I dont think that resonated well with the independents that massively went the other direction.
- drexel


Ya but it wasn't the right type of democracy.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Nov 6 @ 11:18 AM ET
Strong TDS here.
- Rare_Jewel

For an apparent racist, Trump got a LOT of votes from visible minorities. Must drive him mad.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Nov 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
For an apparent racist, Trump got a LOT of votes from visible minorities. Must drive him mad.
- Whipper


Clearly, they're also racists. Against themselves.
rSole
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I usually disagree with Dozzer, ON
Joined: 12.16.2013

Nov 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
I think someday you'll get people a lot smarter than us who break down the way these events happened socially. One take I've heard is that the right gives people targets to hate - the left doesn't. I also believe in the pendulum effect - and I even, fiscally, don't have a real horse in the race. I'd love it if the money were there to help everyone all the time - but it's not. Corporations are rich blood sucking entities, but they do need attending to as well in order to facilitate the needs of the people.

The irony is that in my opinion the targets to hate are the wealthy who have everything and have left table crumbs for the rest. Most people are scrambling to pick up the crumbs and left feeling without and hopeless. I'm of the opinion that this is really the problem behind shootings and rage violence - America is sold on being the land of the free with the American Dream - but it's barely achievable by anyone. I'm not saying that's who you shoot, but I am saying that in general that wealth disparity is the gap you need to close - so fiscally I'd be generally aligned with some of the democratic ideals there, but they pay lip service. Both political parties are composed of exceptionally wealthy people who don't want to be affected either. I also don't know the solution - but I do believe that the wealth gap is probably the #1 problem affecting Western society.

Ultimately, personally, the issue I often take out of these things is quality of life. Right? Like basic rights, general equalities and so on - and being non-religious skews my view one way towards my view of what's fair.

So I would, personally, sit on the left side of the fence, but there are things on the right that make sense at the right time, and things on the left side of the fence that don't make sense at times, too.

- Monkeypunk


I respect your post. You at least were clearly expressing a balanced opinion except for the bolded. There is much hate on both sides. The left have traditionally been the more tolerant group, but that has changed over the last decade. The left have zero tolerance for anyone that doesn't think exactly as they do. We are watching this play out right now.

You didn't get vaccinated? Well, you are obviously a racists sexist nazi.

You didn't want Harris to win? Well, you are obviously are a racists, sexist rapist.

The left have some major soul searching to do.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Nov 6 @ 11:30 AM ET
Check out big words and big brain on the Skalapmeister, I guess that is why you need such a thick neck!

Won't lie as I was typing 'check out the big brains' this movie scene instantly popped into my head - such a great flick.


- Cush29


drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who's the real Randy?, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 6 @ 11:32 AM ET
I just hope one of the hollywood elite fleeing america overpays for my house
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Nov 6 @ 11:32 AM ET
I respect your post. You at least were clearly expressing a balanced opinion except for the bolded. There is much hate on both sides. The left have traditionally been the more tolerant group, but that has changed over the last decade. The left have zero tolerance for anyone that doesn't think exactly as they do. We are watching this play out right now.

You didn't get vaccinated? Well, you are obviously a racists sexist nazi.

You didn't want Harris to win? Well, you are obviously are a racists, sexist rapist.

The left have some major soul searching to do.

- rSole


Ya that won't happen. The machine they've built will only continue to subverbt and probably try to kill him again whether it be figuratively or literally.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
I respect your post. You at least were clearly expressing a balanced opinion except for the bolded. There is much hate on both sides. The left have traditionally been the more tolerant group, but that has changed over the last decade. The left have zero tolerance for anyone that doesn't think exactly as they do. We are watching this play out right now.

You didn't get vaccinated? Well, you are obviously a racists sexist nazi.

You didn't want Harris to win? Well, you are obviously are a racists, sexist rapist.

The left have some major soul searching to do.

- rSole


im not sure what to think if people are cool with voting for one tho
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Nov 6 @ 11:40 AM ET
Say what you want about the bad orange man, but he has assembled the best team in history

Gabbard
Ramaswany
Team 2028

And

Carson
RFK
Carlson
Musk

- mr.sir


don’t forget this guy πŸ‘Š


Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 6 @ 11:42 AM ET
I respect your post. You at least were clearly expressing a balanced opinion except for the bolded. There is much hate on both sides. The left have traditionally been the more tolerant group, but that has changed over the last decade. The left have zero tolerance for anyone that doesn't think exactly as they do. We are watching this play out right now.

You didn't get vaccinated? Well, you are obviously a racists sexist nazi.

You didn't want Harris to win? Well, you are obviously are a racists, sexist rapist.

The left have some major soul searching to do.

- rSole


I would say that there's a lot of reactionary thinking in that - there are crazy pulls to the left and crazy pulls to the right and both extremist groups are unnerving. Whether it's the conspiracy-laden or unusual cult-driven speak of some of the right people or the insane unhinged associations of too many people on the left.

With regards to the vaccines - I hate that it was politicized. It became a party vs. party issue rather than a people issue. There has been a lot of "you're either with me or against me!" which I noted in another comment, which is often indicative of a younger mindset.

For me - long before he ever entered the political sphere - I thought Donald Trump was a dumpster fire of a human being - so I was then - and remain today - truly shocked that people find him electable. But the issues extend beyond the party faces. And the way many vocal advocates for the left argue, you're right, they attack people who disagree with them.

But that's the difference - the party messaging from the right is giving their advocates people or targets to be angry at - things to vote against. The populace from the left is trying to give their people targets to be angry at (people on the other side of the fence). That's not going to work. Who are you convincing with that messaging? Join me or you're a Richard? Darth Vader had a better argument. But I didn't think it was coming from the top (they always let it slip - and I have to admit that Trump's rhetoric is designed to get those reactions) inasmuch as it was fed from the grassroots and never managed by the party itself.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Nov 6 @ 11:43 AM ET
don’t forget this guy πŸ‘Š



- Skalapy


The new head of the federal reserve just so he can shut it down.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Nov 6 @ 11:44 AM ET

- Skalapy

Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Nov 6 @ 11:46 AM ET
The new head of the federal reserve just so he can shut it down.
- Rare_Jewel

yass!πŸ‘ŠπŸΏ

he’s gonna abolish the fed and put us back on the gold standard!πŸ‘Š

edit: not that cheap chinese gold either πŸ‘ŠπŸΏ
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Nov 6 @ 11:46 AM ET
im not sure what to think if people are cool with voting for one tho
- senstroll


You must have a huge problem with Biden voters then.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Nov 6 @ 11:48 AM ET
yass!πŸ‘ŠπŸΏ

he’s gonna abolish the fed and put us back on the gold standard!πŸ‘Š

edit: not that cheap chinese gold either πŸ‘ŠπŸΏ

- Skalapy



senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
You must have a huge problem with Biden voters then.
- Rare_Jewel


I def do for anyone that cast a vote for Biden last night
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 6 @ 12:11 PM ET
Oh Nashville, get your poop together soon or you are done.
Maybe they simply added too many new pieces.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
Say what you want about the bad orange man, but he has assembled the best team in history

Gabbard
Ramaswany
Team 2028

And

Carson
RFK
Carlson
Musk

- mr.sir

Dont forget your buddy putin.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 6 @ 12:15 PM ET


Grow up.

- rSole

Truth hurts eh.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Nov 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
That was definitely a rumour - Friedman said that it wasn't true as trading Knies was not something either of Shanahan or Dubas were considering at all.

My guess is that it was post-Dubas release propaganda to help MLSE. This is a company that owns how many media outlets and has contacts with how many reporters, bloggers and other sports "insiders"? They have a decent ability to control a narrative.

- Monkeypunk


https://thehockeynews.com...d%20Brendan%20vetoed%20it...

It was Dreger's report. And it came out at the deadline while Shanny and Dubas were still negotiating his stay. It came out of the Chicago side so who knows if the details were true.

But, for me it's believable. MAF would have cost Mrazek and a first and Hagel would have cost a top young prospect (Knies) and picks.

Lets all be happy that Shanny threw his weight around (if true) on that one and the rumoured Karlsson deal.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
I respect your post. You at least were clearly expressing a balanced opinion except for the bolded. There is much hate on both sides. The left have traditionally been the more tolerant group, but that has changed over the last decade. The left have zero tolerance for anyone that doesn't think exactly as they do. We are watching this play out right now.

You didn't get vaccinated? Well, you are obviously a racists sexist nazi.

You didn't want Harris to win? Well, you are obviously are a racists, sexist rapist.

The left have some major soul searching to do.

- rSole

Vaccines have been around long before the republicans came out as nazi sympathizers.
There a reason smallpox was eradicated or you dont see too much of Polio or hib anymore. It was the right that politicized them.
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