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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 8 @ 2:38 PM ET
Magic Bust
- HawkintheD

Every day I get to the rink (too much magic bust
Sit in the seat to watch you stink (too much magic bust
I’m so nervous I just sit and cry ( too much magic bust
Korbustsky was drafted why oh why (too much magic bust

Damn you Kyle for getting him here (too much magic bust
He’s a bust have no fear (too much magic bust
I don’t want to cause a fuss ( too much magic busy
But why did you draft the magic bust
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Dec 8 @ 2:45 PM ET
If they are playing 2 1 2 it does make sense to have Mikheyev on his line he's one of the better puck hounds on the team.
- BetweenTheDots


You make a good point.
Rags game can't come soon enough!
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Dec 8 @ 2:56 PM ET
Anderson on waivers.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 8 @ 3:15 PM ET
Anderson on waivers.
- Angotti


Que Nazar getting a promotion soon
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 8 @ 3:56 PM ET
Commesso coming up with him. They forgot Nazar.
- Angotti

Colin Delia is available. I'd go that route.
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Dec 8 @ 4:22 PM ET
I think I can explain the 98, 23, and 95 line - but do it in the context of the board narrative... it makes perfect sense (to a point), as 23 brings nothing defensively to that line (arguably, not much offensively either -not this season), and if 95 brings nothing offensively to that line -- there you go, that's the Ying-Yang of your balance.

Ok - I got nothing...leastwise, no explanation for that.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Dec 8 @ 4:44 PM ET
Every day I get to the rink (too much magic bust
Sit in the seat to watch you stink (too much magic bust
I’m so nervous I just sit and cry ( too much magic bust
Korbustsky was drafted why oh why (too much magic bust

Damn you Kyle for getting him here (too much magic bust
He’s a bust have no fear (too much magic bust
I don’t want to cause a fuss ( too much magic busy
But why did you draft the magic bust

- paulr


That's pretty good.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Dec 8 @ 4:54 PM ET
I think I can explain the 98, 23, and 95 line - but do it in the context of the board narrative... it makes perfect sense (to a point), as 23 brings nothing defensively to that line (arguably, not much offensively either -not this season), and if 95 brings nothing offensively to that line -- there you go, that's the Ying-Yang of your balance.

Ok - I got nothing...leastwise, no explanation for that.

- SC116


Well done
Sounded like a Norm MacDonald joke

Rags lose again, any chance they send Kakko packing for some sort of a return for a veteran d man with a lower cap hit?
Murphy for Kakko?
In other news,I believe Seth Jones was skating today.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Dec 8 @ 5:20 PM ET
Bear down Chicago Bears...
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Dec 8 @ 5:50 PM ET
Bear down Chicago Bears...
- boilermaker100


They are making Sorenson's debut look pretty good in comparison.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Dec 8 @ 6:57 PM ET
They are making Sorenson's debut look pretty good in comparison.
- HawkintheD


At least we don't have to worry about Thomas Brown getting the job because of a short good bump..............
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Dec 8 @ 7:04 PM ET
At least we don't have to worry about Thomas Brown getting the job because of a short good bump..............
- vabeachbear


Been watching prevent defense now for 38 years. If Poles hires the next head coach and they continue to play this prevent defense, then I'll have to let this team go since the McCaskeys are the ones hiring their type of head coach every time.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 8 @ 7:37 PM ET
Been watching prevent defense now for 38 years. If Poles hires the next head coach and they continue to play this prevent defense, then I'll have to let this team go since the McCaskeys are the ones hiring their type of head coach every time.
- BetweenTheDots


Best post of your life, Dots. Spot on about the soft defense.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Dec 8 @ 8:19 PM ET
Que Nazar getting a promotion soon
- BetweenTheDots


Commesso took Andersen's spot, no? They'd have to make another move to bring Nazar up, no?

Either way things are about to get real. I don't care about any fancies you'd have to see Mrazek since he was a Hawk to know just how damn good this guy's been and the only reason they have not been an AHL level squad getting pounded every single night.

Now, he goes down along with their best Dman in Martinez with their #1 TOI Dman having been out for weeks. ..... And the solid choice for backup/tandem goalie in Broisett hasn't dressed this yr.

And, you have a brand new coach who is barking about opening their game up which will cause trading chances at best.

Que Soderblom. And Commesso, who has never made an NHL start and is having his worst ever season. ........ Soderblom has more or less defied physics in his complete 180 since a horrid, terrible yr last yr. Well, this new found solid play is gonna be tested, tested in a way the last yr and 25 games that only a few goalies could have withstood and Mrazek is one of them and he's on the shelf with a groin that could be a season long thing. With young and rookie Dmen strewn throughout and new systems that opens the game up that the club will be asked to learn as they go.

This could get very very ugly, quick.

.


paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
Commesso took Andersen's spot, no? They'd have to make another move to bring Nazar up, no?

Either way things are about to get real. I don't care about any fancies you'd have to see Mrazek since he was a Hawk to know just how damn good this guy's been and the only reason they have not been an AHL level squad getting pounded every single night.

Now, he goes down along with their best Dman in Martinez with their #1 TOI Dman having been out for weeks. ..... And the solid choice for backup/tandem goalie in Broisett hasn't dressed this yr.

And, you have a brand new coach who is barking about opening their game up which will cause trading chances at best.

Que Soderblom. And Commesso, who has never made an NHL start and is having his worst ever season. ........ Soderblom has more or less defied physics in his complete 180 since a horrid, terrible yr last yr. Well, this new found solid play is gonna be tested, tested in a way the last yr and 25 games that only a few goalies could have withstood and Mrazek is one of them and he's on the shelf with a groin that could be a season long thing. With young and rookie Dmen strewn throughout and new systems that opens the game up that the club will be asked to learn as they go.

This could get very very ugly, quick.

.

- Mr Ricochet


1-2-3-2-3
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Dec 8 @ 8:54 PM ET
Commesso took Andersen's spot, no? They'd have to make another move to bring Nazar up, no?

Either way things are about to get real. I don't care about any fancies you'd have to see Mrazek since he was a Hawk to know just how damn good this guy's been and the only reason they have not been an AHL level squad getting pounded every single night.

Now, he goes down along with their best Dman in Martinez with their #1 TOI Dman having been out for weeks. ..... And the solid choice for backup/tandem goalie in Broisett hasn't dressed this yr.

And, you have a brand new coach who is barking about opening their game up which will cause trading chances at best.

Que Soderblom. And Commesso, who has never made an NHL start and is having his worst ever season. ........ Soderblom has more or less defied physics in his complete 180 since a horrid, terrible yr last yr. Well, this new found solid play is gonna be tested, tested in a way the last yr and 25 games that only a few goalies could have withstood and Mrazek is one of them and he's on the shelf with a groin that could be a season long thing. With young and rookie Dmen strewn throughout and new systems that opens the game up that the club will be asked to learn as they go.

This could get very very ugly, quick.

.

- Mr Ricochet


Because anemic scoring and worst record in the league hasn't already been ugly??
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 8 @ 8:56 PM ET
His pace this year is slightly better than a PPG. Levshunov was just under a ppg but that was as a true freshman.

Little bit different circumstances. Like Levshunov coming here with just a duffel bag - having an income was probably a bit more of a priority.

Anyway - Rinzel is about on pace with Buium, not quite on pace with someone like Luke Hughes but pretty close to Quinn.

Point totals aren't everything but defenders that seem to put them up as freshmen and sophomores like he is are typically productive NHL players straight away.

He's probably a player to get excited about. Which is why when you look at that right side and you see Jones, Murphy over there - really quickly it's going to be Levshunov and Rinzel. They already have Vlasic, Kaiser and Allen on the other side sooooo something probably has to give there and relatively quickly.

I'd assume Brodie is Murphy insurance but it's gonna get pretty crowded pretty quickly across that whole blue line.

- fattybeef

Rinzel, Leveshunov, Korchinski
Allen, Vlasic, Kaiser

That is six defenders without a lot of experience

Crevier and DelMastro as depth could be ok.

First immediate concern is all that inexperience. And is thus group possibly together as soon as next season, or the season after next?

Well as for the back ups, Crevier and DelMastro have enough pro experience and probably would not be a weakness. Both play a style which is conducive to just getting the job done- safe not turnover machines. And while neither is a great puck mover, they are not bad either - capable is a term I would say could fit

Nonetheless the entire group does lack experience but I bet KD and his coach want to just go with them anyway.. It is time to let the kids play and they stay unless there is obviously too much mistakes and overwhelmed

The mandate to win coming from the owner, however, makes going with so much youth on defense a choice which might now be disciple to a change in plan

Part of the success the dmen experience may still be aided by the help from the forwards.

The forwards need to be responsible although overplaying defensively by forwards as a way to help the defensemen could have a different look under Sorenson or a new coach

So this mandate to win more is not lost upon KD as he will definitely make a splash trying to improve the quality of forwards on the roster

As much as KD may want each of a young group on the blueline play together in the NHL, you have to question whether one of them might be traded insofar as to bring a quality forward who fits in a top six role (no question about the fit as there is with TT and Bertuzzi).

All I can envision short term is a couple veterans moving out at trade deadline and Nazar gets a trial in top six

Post season KD will make some moves but does it involve moving a young dman through trade? We have to think this might be a realistic outcome
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Dec 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
At least we don't have to worry about Thomas Brown getting the job because of a short good bump..............
- vabeachbear


Yeah was thinking the same thing. I know there has been some kicking around the idea of trading for a coach like Shanahan. Whether it happens or not I think he presented a pretty argument for it today.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Dec 8 @ 9:12 PM ET
Rinzel, Leveshunov, Korchinski
Allen, Vlasic, Kaiser

That is six defenders without a lot of experience

Crevier and DelMastro as depth could be ok.

First immediate concern is all that inexperience. And is thus group possibly together as soon as next season, or the season after next?

Well as for the back ups, Crevier and DelMastro have enough pro experience and probably would not be a weakness. Both play a style which is conducive to just getting the job done- safe not turnover machines. And while neither is a great puck mover, they are not bad either - capable is a term I would say could fit

Nonetheless the entire group does lack experience but I bet KD and his coach want to just go with them anyway.. It is time to let the kids play and they stay unless there is obviously too much mistakes and overwhelmed

The mandate to win coming from the owner, however, makes going with so much youth on defense a choice which might now be disciple to a change in plan

Part of the success the dmen experience may still be aided by the help from the forwards.

The forwards need to be responsible although overplaying defensively by forwards as a way to help the defensemen could have a different look under Sorenson or a new coach

So this mandate to win more is not lost upon KD as he will definitely make a splash trying to improve the quality of forwards on the roster

As much as KD may want each of a young group on the blueline play together in the NHL, you have to question whether one of them might be traded insofar as to bring a quality forward who fits in a top six role (no question about the fit as there is with TT and Bertuzzi).

All I can envision short term is a couple veterans moving out at trade deadline and Nazar gets a trial in top six

Post season KD will make some moves but does it involve moving a young dman through trade? We have to think this might be a realistic outcome

- jhawk59


What mandate to win from the owner ?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Dec 8 @ 9:16 PM ET
Larkin asking for a trade? He's tired of playing for a team in an endless rebuild. That leaves Chicago out as a trade partner. See Detroit blog comment page.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 8 @ 9:22 PM ET
Larkin asking for a trade? He's tired of playing for a team in an endless rebuild. That leaves Chicago out as a trade partner. See Detroit blog comment page.
- boilermaker100

This is something KD has to juggle along with possible attendance issues. As Rico says, GMing is hard.

I never thought the great Yzerman would make mistakes.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 8 @ 9:43 PM ET
Best post of your life, Dots. Spot on about the soft defense.
- mohel

Vic Fangio was a very good defensive coach.
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 8 @ 9:53 PM ET
What mandate to win from the owner ?
- boilermaker100

That was the news report given in media reports and mentioned in at least one post on this site. Danny Wurtz is wants a full house and better record, winning more
Obviously the TT and Bertuzzi add isn’t good enough because they haven’t been able to be top line producers and no one presently is working out with Bedard. Going to have to draft a top five maybe it will be top three forward and either sign free agent or trade for a definite L2 forward. Bedard has to be producing points. Nazar could help but need at least one preferably two top line forwards for next season A few more wins and some young kids breaking in, should be encoursging
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Dec 8 @ 9:58 PM ET
That was the news report given in media reports and mentioned in st l way one post on this site. Danny Wurtz is ants full house and better record, winning more
Obviously the TT and Bertuzzi add isn’t good enough because they haven’t been able to be top line producers and no one presently is working out with Bedard. Going to have to draft a top five maybe it will be top three forward and either sign free agent or trade for a definite L2 forward. Bedard has to be producing points. Nazar could help but need at least one preferably two top line forwards for next season A few more wins and some young kids breaking in, should be encoursging

- jhawk59


Ok thanks. Didn't hear or read about it.
jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 8 @ 10:04 PM ET
Ok thanks. Didn't hear or read about it.
- boilermaker100

BTW have noticed some attractive Purdue Boilermaker jackets people wearing lately. Nice colors simple design jackets
Late ADD new Blackhawk winter coats probably available for Christmas gifts for ourself or others.
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