This statement is pretty much my argument for why KD shouldn’t pass up the chance to add true difference makers when available. He won’t land all of them, but hoping your draft picks turn into those guys isn’t really a strategy.
- Chunk

You mean like a Rinzel for Cozens? .. If you're looking for a difference maker it's gonna cost and there's little to no chance a Necas, who's not struggling like a Cozens type is, is available and if by some chance they are you're gonna have to win a bidding war to get that kind of player.

I'm struggling to come up with examples when true difference makers that fit KD's timeline, a player will come into his own in 2 yrs. The Faber for Fiala example was that Faber was still playing NCAA, had yet to play an NHL game, so he was far from being any kind of a known difference maker. https://www.eliteprospect...player/558598/brock-faber

Not quite sure, but I would guess probably within the next two years. The problem they will run into is that they have so many guys ready to bump to the AHL, and they likely don’t want to have an entire NHL roster made up of young kids they they’ll have to move some out.
- Chunk

Yea, that's the thing about hearing they'll have too many prospects. There is never any detail given when that statement is made. Like at what number of prospects you have should trigger some kind of movement, at what yr of a total tear down process, any examples of when a team had too many prospects that triggered moving some?

I've never read exactly what too many prospects means and what follows(ed).

Agreed, building strictly on draft picks isn’t much of a strategy. But KD has to have some criteria of the players he tries to acquire. Age being one, there’s no point in getting guys in their late twenties or early thirties who have large contracts or command larger contracts with lots of term. He has to be very careful with injury prone players. I was disappointed he didn’t make a play for Kakko, he seemed like a low risk acquisition.
- paulr

Totally agreed.

Yea, that's the thing about hearing they'll have too many prospects. There is never any detail given when that statement is made. Like at what number of prospects you have should trigger some kind of movement, at what yr of a total tear down process, any examples of when a team had too many prospects that triggered moving some?

I've never read exactly what too many prospects means and what follows(ed).
- Mr Ricochet

I think it is just a question of having the roster spots for guys to develop. Really you have 9-10 developmental forward spots in Rockford (need a few AHL vets), and next year they will have at least that many needing to be in the AHL. There will be 5 or 6 more the year after. So some subtraction will be needed before you see the players develop. Next year they may be able to fit everyone in, but the year after there might be "too many prospects" - assuming no trades.

I think just have to accept that a few guys are going to get moved that you will wish you had kept. Just the cost of having drafted so many guys.

This statement is pretty much my argument for why KD shouldn’t pass up the chance to add true difference makers when available. He won’t land all of them, but hoping your draft picks turn into those guys isn’t really a strategy.
- Chunk

I hope he's able to make deals to add a true difference maker(s) by trading future draft picks and let the kids marinate.

I'm guessing Kakko didn't fit KDs mold

You mean like a Rinzel for Cozens? .. If you're looking for a difference maker it's gonna cost and there's little to no chance a Necas, who's not struggling like a Cozens type is, is available and if by some chance they are you're gonna have to win a bidding war to get that kind of player.

I'm struggling to come up with examples when true difference makers that fit KD's timeline, a player will come into his own in 2 yrs. The Faber for Fiala example was that Faber was still playing NCAA, had yet to play an NHL game, so he was far from being any kind of a known difference maker. https://www.eliteprospect...player/558598/brock-faber
- Mr Ricochet

I mean, if a high-end younger talent is available, KD should pursue it. Full stop. The Hawks need more actual players and less "fill-ins". Hoping and waiting for all the picks to become players is not a viable strategy.

Bedard stepped right in - yay Hawks. KK and Nazar were drafted two years ago, and are maybe just starting to be able to contribute at the NHL level. They will probably need another year or two to really come into their own. Now add that same timeline to all the other prospects hoping they hit their peaks... and you are now the current Detroit Red Wings. Hoping that your prospects are good enough to fill out the roster not tenable.

I hope he's able to make deals to add a true difference maker(s) by trading future draft picks and let the kids marinate.

I'm guessing Kakko didn't fit KDs mold
- BetweenTheDots

I'd actually prefer that he even everything out. Keep a good portion of the prospects, and most of his draft pics. if they want to maintain competitiveness over a long period of time, they are going to have to have prospects continuing to come through, but it's better if they are spaced out and not all at once.

Moore decent 1st period. Using his speed for a couple of chances, a good rush on the PK.

I'd actually prefer that he even everything out. Keep a good portion of the prospects, and most of his draft pics. if they want to maintain competitiveness over a long period of time, they are going to have to have prospects continuing to come through, but it's better if they are spaced out and not all at once.
- Chunk

Well i think they will be spaced out because i think most will develop at different times. I also think it will create some wonderful competition within the system as well.

Trading for a very young difference-maker is tough. If everyone involved knows the player is a difference-maker, he is unlikely to be available or will cost something nobody here wants to pay.

That leaves a scenario where the player's current team doesn't think he's a difference-maker and the Hawks do. It's possible to do this, but the gamble is that the Hawks are right and the current team isn't. Sharp is an example of this. Unfortunately, so was Nylander and many other "just needs a change" flyers.

They are very unlikely to get a Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook level cornerstone players via trade, imo. A few really good players? Perhaps. I may have mentioned in the past that - to avoid being Detroit - the Hawks need cornerstones. So far they have one.

It's worth a try, though, if you can trade your kids that you know will suck before the other team catches on. Self-scouting is vital, and we don't know yet if KD is good at it.

Trading for a very young difference-maker is tough. If everyone involved knows the player is a difference-maker, he is unlikely to be available or will cost something nobody here wants to pay.

That leaves a scenario where the player's current team doesn't think he's a difference-maker and the Hawks do. It's possible to do this, but the gamble is that the Hawks are right and the current team isn't. Sharp is an example of this. Unfortunately, so was Nylander and many other "just needs a change" flyers.

They are very unlikely to get a Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook level cornerstone players via trade, imo. A few really good players? Perhaps. I may have mentioned in the past that - to avoid being Detroit - the Hawks need cornerstones. So far they have one.

It's worth a try, though, if you can trade your kids that you know will suck before the other team catches on. Self-scouting is vital, and we don't know yet if KD is good at it.
- mohel

I'd say one for sure we know of and I'm inclined to say two and include Vlasic.

Trading for a very young difference-maker is tough. If everyone involved knows the player is a difference-maker, he is unlikely to be available or will cost something nobody here wants to pay.

That leaves a scenario where the player's current team doesn't think he's a difference-maker and the Hawks do. It's possible to do this, but the gamble is that the Hawks are right and the current team isn't. Sharp is an example of this. Unfortunately, so was Nylander and many other "just needs a change" flyers.

They are very unlikely to get a Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook level cornerstone players via trade, imo. A few really good players? Perhaps. I may have mentioned in the past that - to avoid being Detroit - the Hawks need cornerstones. So far they have one.

It's worth a try, though, if you can trade your kids that you know will suck before the other team catches on. Self-scouting is vital, and we don't know yet if KD is good at it.
- mohel

Finding a Toews, Kane, Keith etc. for a small return ain’t happening. You’ll probably never find a young difference maker who’s already in the NHL but can you find a young prospect languishing in the minors or a guy who has promise on the fourth line. Kind of like a Patrick Sharp. As I said I’m surprised KD didn’t take a flyer on Kakko.

Misiak and M. Spence have assists early. Erie 2-0 vs. Guelph.

Trading for a very young difference-maker is tough. If everyone involved knows the player is a difference-maker, he is unlikely to be available or will cost something nobody here wants to pay.

That leaves a scenario where the player's current team doesn't think he's a difference-maker and the Hawks do. It's possible to do this, but the gamble is that the Hawks are right and the current team isn't. Sharp is an example of this. Unfortunately, so was Nylander and many other "just needs a change" flyers.

They are very unlikely to get a Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook level cornerstone players via trade, imo. A few really good players? Perhaps. I may have mentioned in the past that - to avoid being Detroit - the Hawks need cornerstones. So far they have one.

It's worth a try, though, if you can trade your kids that you know will suck before the other team catches on. Self-scouting is vital, and we don't know yet if KD is good at it.
- mohel

I’m not sure how Detroit’s rebuild will turn out, however they sure did not get lucky with the bouncing balls. To me, Seider is a cornerstone, but not sure that they have another one in the pipeline.

I think the player we missed out on was Askarov. He's looked really good for SJ

Kantserov with another goal
And had a goal in the sh!itout as well!

Wait.. what..the Buzz is back. I thought and heard that this site was down and no longer available.

https://x.com/benpopecst/.../1873398577440960592?s=61

Korchinski to Rockford, Kaiser recalled.

https://x.com/benpopecst/status/1873398577440960592?s=61

Korchinski to Rockford, Kaiser recalled.
- 35Tony0

I think that's a good move, he has a tendency to stop moving his feet still.

I think the player we missed out on was Askarov. He's looked really good for SJ
- wizardofi

I don't think the Preds were willing to trade him to a team in their own division.

You mean like a Rinzel for Cozens? .. If you're looking for a difference maker it's gonna cost and there's little to no chance a Necas, who's not struggling like a Cozens type is, is available and if by some chance they are you're gonna have to win a bidding war to get that kind of player.

I'm struggling to come up with examples when true difference makers that fit KD's timeline, a player will come into his own in 2 yrs. The Faber for Fiala example was that Faber was still playing NCAA, had yet to play an NHL game, so he was far from being any kind of a known difference maker. https://www.eliteprospect...player/558598/brock-faber
- Mr Ricochet

8 x $22.5 for McDavid is buying a difference maker.

https://x.com/benpopecst/status/1873398577440960592?s=61

Korchinski to Rockford, Kaiser recalled.
- 35Tony0

Yup
Just saw it

https://www.bleachernatio...n-korchinski-to-rockford/

Donno why
That seems dumb as hell. He can absolutely play the remainder of the year in the NHL.
If I hear another he needs to play in the AHL to improve in the NHL,I'm gonna sh!t my pants.

Trading for a very young difference-maker is tough. If everyone involved knows the player is a difference-maker, he is unlikely to be available or will cost something nobody here wants to pay.

That leaves a scenario where the player's current team doesn't think he's a difference-maker and the Hawks do. It's possible to do this, but the gamble is that the Hawks are right and the current team isn't. Sharp is an example of this. Unfortunately, so was Nylander and many other "just needs a change" flyers.

They are very unlikely to get a Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook level cornerstone players via trade, imo. A few really good players? Perhaps. I may have mentioned in the past that - to avoid being Detroit - the Hawks need cornerstones. So far they have one.

It's worth a try, though, if you can trade your kids that you know will suck before the other team catches on. Self-scouting is vital, and we don't know yet if KD is good at it.
- mohel

Agree with you Mo. It's very unlikely you'll get something for nothing in any prospect trade. I doubt if the likes of a Kurashev, Reichel, Phillps, EDM plus even the Toronto 1st (likely to be in the high twenties range) will get a top prospect in return.

KD will have to give to get. The best way IMO is to trade from a position of strength, in the Hawks case the young defense. If anyone is interested in KK ( I see he's back in Rockford) and thinks he will pan out to be a top 4 puck moving D, I would move him for a young forward.

Yup
Just saw it

https://www.bleachernatio...n-korchinski-to-rockford/

Donno why
That seems dumb as hell. He can absolutely play the remainder of the year in the NHL.
If I hear another he needs to play in the AHL to improve in the NHL,I'm gonna sh!t my pants.
- captainserious

He needs to play in the AHL to improve in the NHL.

Yup
Just saw it

https://www.bleachernatio...n-korchinski-to-rockford/

Donno why
That seems dumb as hell. He can absolutely play the remainder of the year in the NHL.
If I hear another he needs to play in the AHL to improve in the NHL,I'm gonna sh!t my pants.
- captainserious

Better bring some new drawers and a roll of toilet paper.