I don't understand why that would be funny, isn't that what you want?

I may be wrong but my guess is you'd be willing to trade any or all of them right now so we were more competitive today

Faber does look better than Clarkec right now.
- BetweenTheDots

It would be funny because the whole idea about pedigree of the top 5-10 picks in the draft. My point the whole time is that it doesn't matter where/how you acquire the talent as long as you acquire it.

I would be willing to trade probably two out of three depending on what the return is. And it doesn't matter which two.

NHL rosters are so fluid that trying to draft an entire team just isn't reasonable IMO. The Hawks didn't have a pipeline at all, and now they do. Good for them. Put a GD team on the ice that the kids can grow into.

As long as KD doesn't go full Stan and trade away all of his draft picks for what's left of guys like Timonen, or Vermette, or more to the point Jones, then they should be able to continue to have kids coming up that can fill in when older guys want too much money.

Terrible Brodie icing leads to 3 goal.
- bhawks2241

Pretty much all of the D-men are guilty of it today.

Kaiser has this horrible habit of holding the puck, skating slowly up the ice, hesitating, then missing his pass. It's a shame since he is playing pretty well defensively overall. He just has something stuck in his head that hamstrings his outlets.

3-2-3-1-1

It would be funny because the whole idea about pedigree of the top 5-10 picks in the draft. My point the whole time is that it doesn't matter where/how you acquire the talent as long as you acquire it.

I would be willing to trade probably two out of three depending on what the return is. And it doesn't matter which two.

NHL rosters are so fluid that trying to draft an entire team just isn't reasonable IMO. The Hawks didn't have a pipeline at all, and now they do. Good for them. Put a GD team on the ice that the kids can grow into.

As long as KD doesn't go full Stan and trade away all of his draft picks for what's left of guys like Timonen, or Vermette, or more to the point Jones, then they should be able to continue to have kids coming up that can fill in when older guys want too much money.
- Chunk

Well i guess I'm foolish to believe the best way to accumulate elite talent is to do it in the 1st round and have less teams draft in front me.

All I'll say is what KD said, if the team makes a move to improve itself it has to make sense today and the future of the team.

Bedard is scoring more under Sorensen but man are they getting pasted each game. I’d almost rather watch them lose but 1 or 2 with the ENG at this point. It’s just embarrassing. Definitely lack of talent if you have to play a prevent.

They look pretty good in D prospects to me, at least as far as depth goes. Decent chance at a real Top Four. They need one of them to become an obvious #1, no matter who it is....
- mohel

Vlasic is your number one going forward imo

So possible d pairings for the future
Vlasic levashov
Kk rizal
Kaisier/Allen Jones if he is still around ceiver
Now this all can change with trades

Florida is mostly imports from other teams (Reinhart, Bennet, Tkachuk, Montour, Bob, OEL, Verhaeghe, Forsling). TOR has gotten out of the first round once in the last 8 seasons. Pitt had four-five draft picks that were the key players. EDM has four-five draft picks that make up their core.

TB is probably the closest to your Nirvana.

The Hawks have made 4865 first round picks in the last three years and just as many 2nds. If he hasn't found four notable players out of that, this thing is already over.
- Chunk

Doesn't matter how they got there, they still drafted top 5 multiple times and got (frank) all out of it.

It's almost as if you need to space out all of these prospects and establish winning so these kids have something to integrate into instead of hoping they can establish it themselves.
- Chunk

Bottom line is it's difficult to project what a 17 year old will be at 25.

I'm going to die laughing when Rinzel turns out better than KK and Lev. Just the whole pedigree argument makes it funny to me.
- Chunk

That wouldn't be a bad thing.

Man, down 4-1, I'd be considering swapping the goalies.
- breadbag

Good thing we're playing on National TV again.

Vlasic is your number one going forward imo

So possible d pairings for the future
Vlasic levashov
Kk rizal
Kaisier/Allen Jones if he is still around ceiver
Now this all can change with trades
- Scott1977

Rinzal and KK are the same guys on opposite sides. Not very physical.

Rinzal and KK are the same guys on opposite sides. Not very physical.
- rpeters01

Players can be moved around just saying that is what the d core could look like in the future

Yo Chunk, how you likin Hrabal now???? ......... The kid is quiet and has been so since I first saw him. The Svedish guy is 6ft 6in too and look at the difference in activity with his body, the inefficiency of movement compared to Hrabal during the shootout. That creates holes and the higher up you go those players hit them holes. ........ If you've seen 10thish overall, Cossa, drafted a few yrs back by Stevie Y, he's another with tons of motion relying on reflexes.

Hrabal is quiet man, efficient, technical and has the quickness/reflexes a Cossa does but a fantastic foundation built on skating, efficiency of movement and technicality. One of a few kinda hockey players with a high floor and a high ceiling.

The Svede goalie was a 5th rounder so he doesn't have Hrabal's pedigree but was a nice swing and guy to have in the pipeline.........

And Chunk, I'm just pokin fun. I understand your point that if a guy not picked in the top 5, top 10 or even top 20 doesn't pan out it's not gonna torpedo an organIzation. You're right, but man, I've been a big Hrabal guy since the start of his draft yr playing outa the USHL. I'd watch Omaha games, where Hrabal played, over Steel games I loved wathching him play. Musta saw him 15 times........... And Gajan's slow start, kinda drafted off of 1 solid WJC and his athleticism, and was a draft +1 kid, makes watching Hrabal, Augustine and even fat so Fowler rougher.

Gajan is in the right place though, the NCAA. If he gets the right coach who can get him to believe in working on a foundation built on efficiency backed up by his athleticism you might have a real player.

Right now his style is like Mrazek's and Shesterkin. Challenge above the crease and rely on skating, reflexes and reads. .. Not many of those kinds left cuz it's tough to be successful/consistent in the modern NHL that way.

Rinzal and KK are the same guys on opposite sides. Not very physical.
- rpeters01

Yea, but guys bounce of off Rinzel. Not unlike Dougie Hamilton in many ways but one of them is they are big/smooth and can skate with a long reach to keep the puck from the opponent as they kinda bounce of them as they skate it up ....... KK reminds me of Chabot over in OTT and it took, not that he's really consistently there yet, him awhile to settle in.

Rinzel was the most improved player in the pipeline last yr and might be again next yr...... Folks posting any of Rinzel, Levshunov, or to a lesser degree KK, can develop into a #1 a right IMO.

Just 25 games down on the farm and we saw a much much different KK in the Bigs. Kid showed he has a lot between the ears surviving the NHL last yr under some bad circumstances........ Tells me, amongst other things, kid is coachable. Kid was a teenager 6 months ago.

Would be fantastic to see the American's win back to back Golds for the first time ever. Group is honest and easy to root for.

I thought from the beginning of this tournament FIN played their usual structured measured game but have opened it up and are willing to play with pace and try and be more dangerous. ........ Team still plays tight but are willing to open it up.

They are a tough out with a goalie that is dialed in. Should be a beauty with a good chance to be a 1 goal game. ........ Augustine is great in these kinda big tilts and he did win Gold last yr.

Players can be moved around just saying that is what the d core could look like in the future
- Scott1977

You forgot Jones.

Augustine has been at best very average, I wouldn't regret taking our goalie over him

Yo Chunk, how you likin Hrabal now???? ......... The kid is quiet and has been so since I first saw him. The Svedish guy is 6ft 6in too and look at the difference in activity with his body, the inefficiency of movement compared to Hrabal during the shootout. That creates holes and the higher up you go those players hit them holes. ........ If you've seen 10thish overall, Cossa, drafted a few yrs back by Stevie Y, he's another with tons of motion relying on reflexes.

Hrabal is quiet man, efficient, technical and has the quickness/reflexes a Cossa does but a fantastic foundation built on skating, efficiency of movement and technicality. One of a few kinda hockey players with a high floor and a high ceiling.

The Svede goalie was a 5th rounder so he doesn't have Hrabal's pedigree but was a nice swing and guy to have in the pipeline.........

And Chunk, I'm just pokin fun. I understand your point that if a guy not picked in the top 5, top 10 or even top 20 doesn't pan out it's not gonna torpedo an organIzation. You're right, but man, I've been a big Hrabal guy since the start of his draft yr playing outa the USHL. I'd watch Omaha games, where Hrabal played, over Steel games I loved wathching him play. Musta saw him 15 times........... And Gajan's slow start, kinda drafted off of 1 solid WJC and his athleticism, and was a draft +1 kid, makes watching Hrabal, Augustine and even fat so Fowler rougher.

Gajan is in the right place though, the NCAA. If he gets the right coach who can get him to believe in working on a foundation built on efficiency backed up by his athleticism you might have a real player.

Right now his style is like Mrazek's and Shesterkin. Challenge above the crease and rely on skating, reflexes and reads. .. Not many of those kinds left cuz it's tough to be successful/consistent in the modern NHL that way.
- Mr Ricochet

Didn't get to watch. I only got to see about 6 mins of the Hawks, but had too much work to do. We'll see how it all ends up. Wouldn't surprise me if KD drafted a goalie every year.

It's fun watching the different paths of all the developing kids. The problem always comes down to the projection to the NHL. Nazar seems to be getting a little better understanding of translating his game to the bigs.

I just saw the "highlights". Pretty sure Smith got benched after one of the first games of the year for the exact same turnover that quickly turned into a goal against.

Fins are tough, man. If they can keep their pace up all game it's gonna be tough to beat em. ....... A kinda concern coming in was if the US top line was shut down they may have trouble scoring. Not a whole lotta danger outa the US so far.

So Kurashev and Reichel sit primarily because of lack of compete, and they watch an entire team that it is getting quite obvious is packing it in.

So is this the culture that is being instilled after 3 straight years at the very bottom? IMO, close to 2/3 the team hope they are with a new team by the TDL, including those that have contracts that extend past this season.

Here comes the judge!! Tree-tree...........

Very doubtful the Finns could have kept up their crazy pace. Good that when the slowed down the USA took advantage and finished. ......... Gold Medal game goes into the 3rd tied.

Great game for the fan.

So Kurashev and Reichel sit primarily because of lack of compete, and they watch an entire team that it is getting quite obvious is packing it in.

So is this the culture that is being instilled after 3 straight years at the very bottom? IMO, close to 2/3 the team hope they are with a new team by the TDL, including those that have contracts that extend past this season.
- LAHawk

that's fair. cause us fans hope 2/3 of these plugs are on a new team even sooner.

not for nothing but these bums are the ones establishing a losing culture but giving half ass efforts.

Yea, but guys bounce of off Rinzel. Not unlike Dougie Hamilton in many ways but one of them is they are big/smooth and can skate with a long reach to keep the puck from the opponent as they kinda bounce of them as they skate it up ....... KK reminds me of Chabot over in OTT and it took, not that he's really consistently there yet, him awhile to settle in.

Rinzel was the most improved player in the pipeline last yr and might be again next yr...... Folks posting any of Rinzel, Levshunov, or to a lesser degree KK, can develop into a #1 a right IMO.

Just 25 games down on the farm and we saw a much much different KK in the Bigs. Kid showed he has a lot between the ears surviving the NHL last yr under some bad circumstances........ Tells me, amongst other things, kid is coachable. Kid was a teenager 6 months ago.
- Mr Ricochet

Both guys are smooth and fairly long.

You forgot Jones.
- Chunk

No I didn't