Glad they couldn't trade up for him, if he does learn how to finish he most likely will be an NHL star. Curious to see how Minnesota does the rest of the season ranked number 3 right now.
- BetweenTheDots

Without the finish ability sounds like a Saad type. I've watched several of his games. He doesn't have issues handling the puck just doesn't put the puck in the net.

AA is not a fair comparison. Moore has some hands and can receive and make passes and can skate with the puck on his stick.

But if he is as reported here by more than one poster a cancer. shouldn't he be removed immediately before the cancer metastasizes?
- LAHawk

If a rumor like that was true, I think you kind of just have to trust the GM would take action, but it's one of those things where it comes down to us as fans not getting nearly the same information from inside team that the GM has. I hate speculating based on rumors rather than facts.

Without the finish ability sounds like a Saad type. I've watched several of his games. He doesn't have issues handling the puck just doesn't put the puck in the net.

AA is not a fair comparison. Moore has some hands and can receive and make passes and can skate with the puck on his stick.
- bhawks2241

He should work out with McKinnon in the offseason.

Without the finish ability sounds like a Saad type. I've watched several of his games. He doesn't have issues handling the puck just doesn't put the puck in the net.

AA is not a fair comparison. Moore has some hands and can receive and make passes and can skate with the puck on his stick.
- bhawks2241

It sounds like Moore has the work ethic and intensity to go with above average skating ability. If he can’t score or become a top six forward he can still be effective in other areas. As Russian coach Viktor Tikhonov once said, a team needs soldiers not just Generals.

Jones is not the reason we're 12 - 980 the last three years.
- rpeters01

But he is one of the reasons.

The main reason is that we dumped. pretty much all of the forward talent. Now it needs to be built back up. The positive (as I think Dots mentioned earlier) is that the D-men seem to be filtering in already - who normally take more time to develop. Ideally, everything comes together at the same time, but as we've seen progress is rarely linear.

Reichel back in between Donato and Smith on the 4th line for practice. Maroon comes out. Shev still on the outside.

All other pairs and lines the same.

If it is that bad then do what Guerin did, and buy him out if he can't move him.

After all, I keep reading that KD is the greatest GM of all time, he should figure out some way of irradicating a "cancer"
- LAHawk

You keep bringing up the word cancer, but you're the one who always mentions it. See below.

Who else here has called him a cancer? It's been said he's pouty due to not being named captain, overpaid, last on and first off at practice, hasn't exhibited leadership, and didn't face the press after the WC, but not a cancer.

I liked the TT, Brrtuzzi, and the zmartinez signing. I do not like overpaying veterans for 2 years in order to reach the cap floor.

Even the Canadiens game, the Hawks were outplayed, Sodablom was the sole reason they won.

Can you honestly say the team (collectively) has Ben putting in an 60 minute effort the past 6 games? Or does culture mean Maroon snd Foligno Foligno picking fights to try and spark the masses..

And no I do not believe the internet conspiracy going around that Seth Jones is a cancer in the locker room.
- LAHawk

What NHL player that plays 26 minutes a night is the first one on at pracitce and the last one off ?

Why ask and receive a NMC if you aren't going to use it? Is Jones the only one to say where he wants to go? Heck 2 kids not even signed out of college got traded because

Trouba got traded originally to New York because he wanted to play there (well his wife wanted him too), Tkaczuk ended up in Florida.

Keith would only go to a western Canadien team.

What teams have Petterson or Miller agreed to be traded to?

I can go on and on.

But since it is Jones, it makes him a cancer in the clubhouse.
- LAHawk

You keep bringing up the word cancer, but you're the one who always mentions it. See below.

Who else here has called him a cancer? It's been said he's pouty due to not being named captain, overpaid, last on and first off at practice, hasn't exhibited leadership, and didn't face the press after the WC, but not a cancer.
- boilermaker100

Do a ctrl F for the word cancer on the last 50 pages, and see how many times the word comes up.

Glad they couldn't trade up for him, if he does learn how to finish he most likely will be an NHL star. Curious to see how Minnesota does the rest of the season ranked number 3 right now.
- BetweenTheDots

I don't know if Moore's current production casts him as anything but a kid who you expect to put an entire game together later when the pro ice slows down for him, but I cannot see that happening in the next two seasons, so any expectations he adds a weapon SOON are more hype than anything. We already went through the raves of Reichel's feet.

I am really not sure if I was the Hawk's GM if I would make the selection in this upcoming draft or see what 24 year old I can trade it for.
I know that is an odd opinion from someone who usually falls deep in love with the top end of the class.

I just don't see any of the top picks sitting on pro rosters next September.

They would never rush LD Schaefer if he was the BPA when they pick; if they go Hagens a ruly gifted set upguy and scorer who is also Bedard smallish and not sure how the co-exist unless they are linemates b/c it is rare to see teams with two smaller top 2 centres.
I have been loving Martone for a couple but I too have doubts if he is a guy you can pick at first overall. I din't feel that way in the Ottawa selection of Brady Thachuk where he is available at pick 4.

Martone may not translate to a first line sniper OR a Thachuk-like presence.
(Drafts are funny that way with the quality of attributes presently at each kid's strengths sometimes are more "hopeful" than guaranteed kinda like the way the Duck's selecrton of Leo Carlsson or Fantilli....

He is not a large Andrew Shaw b/c he has the length to girth to win puck battles and concentrates on a two way responsible game and is very interested in scoring. Sahzie had poop stirring on his mind every shift along with getting himself in position to score.

If the hawks pick near the top of the draft I have no issue with him, but won't expect that they got a Rantanen, Kucherov, or Draisaitl, but you don't know.

Since Michael Misa was allowed to mive into the centre position last year, he really looks like a good solid early selection whether team's project him to a 2nd line Centre or first line wing.
And 6 5 Roger McQueen is worth seeing if he is a difference maker centre at the pro level.

If you want Shaw type attributes, move up into the early and take Jordan Spence for soem of that.
And find a kid who wins face-offs too!

Reichel back in between Donato and Smith on the 4th line for practice. Maroon comes out. Shev still on the outside.

All other pairs and lines the same.
- Chunk

Better than the press box, however not a fan of the fourth line assignment, although good to see him with Donato. If there’s one forward with an expiring contract that I’d like to see them keep(within reason), it’s Donato. He just doesn’t take a shift off.

As Russian coach Viktor Tikhonov once said, a team needs soldiers not just Generals.
- paulr

A current Ukranina General said, "Ground troops are nice but heavy artillery tips the balance."

Better than the press box, however not a fan of the fourth line assignment, although good to see him with Donato. If there’s one forward with an expiring contract that I’d like to see them keep(within reason), it’s Donato. He just doesn’t take a shift off.
- Angotti

The weird thing about Reichel is that despite playing center he rarely stays in the middle of the ice. He almost always goes to the perimeter. Maybe he needs someone on his line to clear space (or just has better offensive instincts).


I don't mind him with Donato for that reason. Maybe if he shows a bit better, he'll get a better assignment. I can't imagine Mikheyev stays on the top line for long. I really wish they would just find enough players to push Foligno to the 4th line. It's really sad he's one of the top six forwards. Nothing at all against him, but he's a shell of his former self.

Better than the press box, however not a fan of the fourth line assignment, although good to see him with Donato. If there’s one forward with an expiring contract that I’d like to see them keep(within reason), it’s Donato. He just doesn’t take a shift off.
- Angotti

Donato has been so solid. Like you said, he doesn't take shifts off. He does what he is asked, line 1 to line 4, he just goes out there and plays hard. While I think he has a good work ethic, I wonder if the uptick in his play this season is part of expiring contract and possibility that he gets moved at the TDL to a contender to play for a cup or just that he is playing for his next contract.

I'm glad Reichel is getting a chance to get back into the lineup. He has played overall better than last season, but still I get the criticism we hear in the quotes from the coaches, etc. Would love to just see him get that next step. He is battling more for pucks and engaging more, but just needs a little more shots/production. Not easy with 4th line minutes, but not impossible.

A few years back with Nick Schmaltz, he was only getting 4th line minutes, but managed to make the impact needed to get moved up the lineup and become a bigger part of the team at the time.

Donato has been so solid. Like you said, he doesn't take shifts off. He does what he is asked, line 1 to line 4, he just goes out there and plays hard. While I think he has a good work ethic, I wonder if the uptick in his play this season is part of expiring contract and possibility that he gets moved at the TDL to a contender to play for a cup or just that he is playing for his next contract.

I'm glad Reichel is getting a chance to get back into the lineup. He has played overall better than last season, but still I get the criticism we hear in the quotes from the coaches, etc. Would love to just see him get that next step. He is battling more for pucks and engaging more, but just needs a little more shots/production. Not easy with 4th line minutes, but not impossible.

A few years back with Nick Schmaltz, he was only getting 4th line minutes, but managed to make the impact needed to get moved up the lineup and become a bigger part of the team at the time.
- breadbag

Hopefully that rubs off on Reichel. If he actually could translate his skating aggression into real chances, he might get back to the form everyone was so excited about a couple years ago.

A current Ukranina General said, "Ground troops are nice but heavy artillery tips the balance."
- wiz1901

The Polish Calvary didn't do too well against Hitler's mechanized war machine.

The weird thing about Reichel is that despite playing center he rarely stays in the middle of the ice. He almost always goes to the perimeter. Maybe he needs someone on his line to clear space (or just has better offensive instincts).


I don't mind him with Donato for that reason. Maybe if he shows a bit better, he'll get a better assignment. I can't imagine Mikheyev stays on the top line for long. I really wish they would just find enough players to push Foligno to the 4th line. It's really sad he's one of the top six forwards. Nothing at all against him, but he's a shell of his former self.
- Chunk

It would be nice to have him play with someone that drives the net a bit more to open up space. With Maroon and Smith, they have a bit of skill with the puck but not the speed to make the D scramble and open seams when they attack on the rush. I would be interested to see him play with Donato and Mikheyev at some point.

If it is that bad then do what Guerin did, and buy him out if he can't move him.

After all, I keep reading that KD is the greatest GM of all time, he should figure out some way of irradicating a "cancer"
- LAHawk

You mean, other than Stevie, of course.....

Hopefully that rubs off on Reichel. If he actually could translate his skating aggression into real chances, he might get back to the form everyone was so excited about a couple years ago.
- Chunk

The one thing Donato does well this season is attack the net, something Reichel could stand to learn for sure. Donato is going for wrap arounds, stuff chances, just putting it at the net when he gets the chance.

The one thing Donato does well this season is attack the net, something Reichel could stand to learn for sure. Donato is going for wrap arounds, stuff chances, just putting it at the net when he gets the chance.
- breadbag

I dream of the day we have Centers like the 2014 LA Kings.

I don't know if Moore's current production casts him as anything but a kid who you expect to put an entire game together later when the pro ice slows down for him, but I cannot see that happening in the next two seasons, so any expectations he adds a weapon SOON are more hype than anything. We already went through the raves of Reichel's feet.

I am really not sure if I was the Hawk's GM if I would make the selection in this upcoming draft or see what 24 year old I can trade it for.
I know that is an odd opinion from someone who usually falls deep in love with the top end of the class.

I just don't see any of the top picks sitting on pro rosters next September.

They would never rush LD Schaefer if he was the BPA when they pick; if they go Hagens a ruly gifted set upguy and scorer who is also Bedard smallish and not sure how the co-exist unless they are linemates b/c it is rare to see teams with two smaller top 2 centres.
I have been loving Martone for a couple but I too have doubts if he is a guy you can pick at first overall. I din't feel that way in the Ottawa selection of Brady Thachuk where he is available at pick 4.

Martone may not translate to a first line sniper OR a Thachuk-like presence.
(Drafts are funny that way with the quality of attributes presently at each kid's strengths sometimes are more "hopeful" than guaranteed kinda like the way the Duck's selecrton of Leo Carlsson or Fantilli....

He is not a large Andrew Shaw b/c he has the length to girth to win puck battles and concentrates on a two way responsible game and is very interested in scoring. Sahzie had poop stirring on his mind every shift along with getting himself in position to score.

If the hawks pick near the top of the draft I have no issue with him, but won't expect that they got a Rantanen, Kucherov, or Draisaitl, but you don't know.

Since Michael Misa was allowed to mive into the centre position last year, he really looks like a good solid early selection whether team's project him to a 2nd line Centre or first line wing.
And 6 5 Roger McQueen is worth seeing if he is a difference maker centre at the pro level.

If you want Shaw type attributes, move up into the early and take Jordan Spence for soem of that.
And find a kid who wins face-offs too!
- wiz1901

You know i wouldn't be opposed trading the Blackhawks 1st round pick if KD can truly do it for some young talented forward. Player does have to fit that mold of compete. If they don't trade the 1st round pick and they have their choice of the litter, he's got to pick who he thinks is going to be the best pro regardless of size. Trades can be made later down the road but for now we lack top 6 talent so it has got to be whoever KD thinks is the best player with the most upside. If it's Schaefer then you've got to draft him.

It sounds like Moore has the work ethic and intensity to go with above average skating ability. If he can’t score or become a top six forward he can still be effective in other areas. As Russian coach Viktor Tikhonov once said, a team needs soldiers not just Generals.
- paulr

Kid never stops. I'd say closer to elite skating. I like him a lot and think he can contribute at least as a middle 6 forward. He makes a lot of nice plays. Puck isn't a grenade on his stick. He just doesn't score a lot of goals at the moment.

Hopefully that rubs off on Reichel. If he actually could translate his skating aggression into real chances, he might get back to the form everyone was so excited about a couple years ago.
- Chunk

Love that term, Chunk, skating aggression. And when Reichel decides to go north-south with his quick twitch giddy up skating aggression is the perfect descriptor.

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Charlie Roumeliotis
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Jason Richardinson has shown a lot of emotion at practice today. Here he appears to be venting his frustrations to Nick Foligno. #Blackhawks

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Alec Martinez (neck) isn’t quite ready yet but a good sign that he practiced in full.

Connor Murphy (groin) is still being evaluated, according to Chicago interim head coach Anders Sorensen. #Blackhawks
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Sucks to hear that the issue with Murphy is again groin related, which I think has been the problem going for a long time. He has doing pretty well for most of this season and looking healthy, I hope he doesn't have issues for the rest of the season again.

The comment was about the Hawks having 1 (only Jones) contract. I was making no distinction about whether the contract was a free agent signing, acquired through trade, etc. I didn't see the comment that the Hawks have one bad contract pre KD era that was a sign or trade.

So I am to believe the Hawks have zero players that are overpaid. Got it.
- LAHawk

No and never said that but have seen you continually make comments about how they and by "they" I mean the current regime are "overpaying" players like Foligno/ Richardinson and now apparently adding some others to the mix.

Either way why give a (frank) or keep pointing it out? The guys they have signed to contracts and are here beyond a year or two have been generally market value (Bert, TT,) or team friendly (Vlasic). Just seems like there are way bigger fish to fry but maybe that was the "something to female dog about" flavor of the day and I missed it.