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wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Feb 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
2-2-4-4-2
Blackhawks lost last night 5-1 to the Blue Jackets.

- 35Tony0


They were simply awful as a team and individually. Mzarek so carp the coach's too timid to question the clear bad call on Bedsy who simply hit the puck not the goaltender but the rules allow him to shoot in there.

I just watched Brantford take a 2-0 lead on Ottawa by way of two more Lardis goals.

His release is so quick or the OHL goalies simply blow?


paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
There’s a rumour Edmonton may be interested in Jones, the names coming back are Matthew Savoie and Jeff Skinner. Skinner has a NMC so that may complicate things. No word if Chicago would retain part of Jone’s salary. So that’s four teams who are allegedly interested in Jones, Edmonton, Dallas, Florida and Los Angeles.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
They were simply awful as a team and individually. Mzarek so carp the coach's too timid to question the clear bad call on Bedsy who simply hit the puck not the goaltender but the rules allow him to shoot in there.

I just watched Brantford take a 2-0 lead on Ottawa by way of two more Lardis goals.

His release is so quick or the OHL goalies simply blow?

- wiz1901

I’m watching the same game. Lardis’ skating, release and shot are NHL ready. His defensive game needs work and he needs to get stronger. I’m curious if his game translates to pro?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Feb 23 @ 4:46 PM ET
Just catchin up on like 15 pages of reading.

Going to be a long grind til the end of the season and the exciting part starts. Be good in a few years when hopefully the off season isn't the most exciting part, you know like the Bears.

Still comparing the rebuilds, funny how close they are, will the Hawks aim high and pay for a Primetime Coach???? Spend some money in FA on players that are good and difference makers, will the Bears in a few weeks?

They are at different timelines because of the sports themselves, but really interesting them both happening at the same time.


And for those 6 or 7 pages where i had to read all those political posts after having to beg and beg folks not to go there, and I was disciplined and didn't respond;

I'd like to, but i didnt

totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Feb 23 @ 4:48 PM ET
There’s a rumour Edmonton may be interested in Jones, the names coming back are Matthew Savoie and Jeff Skinner. Skinner has a NMC so that may complicate things. No word if Chicago would retain part of Jone’s salary. So that’s four teams who are allegedly interested in Jones, Edmonton, Dallas, Florida and Los Angeles.
- paulr


Skinner doesn't have any incentive at all to waive his clause for CHI. Don't think there is any incentive they can give him either. Stan may have to move him to a contender before they can swap.

Seems like there may have to be a 3-team trade to get Jones moved.


totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Feb 23 @ 6:20 PM ET
TODAY'S TANKATHON

NAS moves up to #1 and PHI to #2. CHI drops to #4.

3 Nashville
9 Philadelphia
1 San Jose
2 Chicago
4 Buffalo
5 Seattle
6 Pittsburgh
7 St. Louis
8 Montreal
10 Anaheim
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Feb 23 @ 6:51 PM ET
Skinner doesn't have any incentive at all to waive his clause for CHI. Don't think there is any incentive they can give him either. Stan may have to move him to a contender before they can swap.

Seems like there may have to be a 3-team trade to get Jones moved.

- totem


Edmonton has basically already said they aren't moving Skinner.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:06 PM ET
Edmonton has basically already said they aren't moving Skinner.
- breadbag

So he’s a good as gone.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 23 @ 8:17 PM ET
Hawks need to hire a real coach. Watching the 4th line get thrown out against Matthews line.

Martinez playing top pairing for some reason.

Slaggert and Donato can’t receive a pass from Bedard but that like continues to stay together.

Brodie and Martinez shouldn’t be in the line up together unless there are multiple injuries.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Feb 23 @ 8:21 PM ET
Watched a little bit of the Rochford-Chicago game. Saw Lev crosscheck this guy right in the face. I don't think that was his intention as he was surprised as anyone it happened. He got five, ten, and a game misconduct. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a suspension. The Hogs suck by the way. They are doing a great imitation of their parent club.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 23 @ 8:26 PM ET
Watched a little bit of the Rochford-Chicago game. Saw Lev crosscheck this guy right in the face. I don't think that was his intention as he was surprised as anyone it happened. He got five, ten, and a game misconduct. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a suspension. The Hogs suck by the way. They are doing a great imitation of their parent club.
- bjphawkfan


How’d he look otherwise? Hawks barely have a pulse. Aside from Bedard taking a run at Leafs D (he semi whiffed) haven’t seen Hawks player hit someone.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 23 @ 8:39 PM ET
Hawks need to hire a real coach. Watching the 4th line get thrown out against Matthews line.

Martinez playing top pairing for some reason.

Slaggert and Donato can’t receive a pass from Bedard but that like continues to stay together.

Brodie and Martinez shouldn’t be in the line up together unless there are multiple injuries.

- bhawks2241

Scotty Bowman in his prime ain’t making a difference. This has absolutely nothing to do with coaching. There is just no talent on the roster.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 23 @ 9:01 PM ET
Scotty Bowman in his prime ain’t making a difference. This has absolutely nothing to do with coaching. There is just no talent on the roster.
- paulr


There is no reason Jones Brodie Martinez and Murphy are all in the lineup. Especially, on a back to back. All 4 played last night.

Reichel is buried on line 4 but Kurashev gets to play with Nazar and Bertuzzi. There is no reason to have Bedard with Slaggert and Donato.

I understand the Hawks are going to lose. They can still work on developing chemistry between young guys.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:06 PM ET
There is no reason Jones Brodie Martinez and Murphy are all in the lineup. Especially, on a back to back. All 4 played last night.

Reichel is buried on line 4 but Kurashev gets to play with Nazar and Bertuzzi. There is no reason to have Bedard with Slaggert and Donato.

I understand the Hawks are going to lose. They can still work on developing chemistry between young guys.

- bhawks2241

There’s really no reason to fret about this season. Everyone and their brother knows they won’t win. Like you I’d like to see the vets get spotted in and out of the lineup and let the kids play.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:07 PM ET
How’d he look otherwise? Hawks barely have a pulse. Aside from Bedard taking a run at Leafs D (he semi whiffed) haven’t seen Hawks player hit someone.
- bhawks2241


Has Bedard done anything tonight?
Can't watch, at a dinner with friends. Just checked the score and saw he hasn't put up any points.
Didn't have any points last night but otherwise played a solid game(would have had a goal had Ders challenged that no goal).

Lardis with a hattrick and an assist earlier today
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 23 @ 10:01 PM ET
Has Bedard done anything tonight?
Can't watch, at a dinner with friends. Just checked the score and saw he hasn't put up any points.
Didn't have any points last night but otherwise played a solid game(would have had a goal had Ders challenged that no goal).

Lardis with a hattrick and an assist earlier today

- captainserious


Not much. Line couldn’t maintain possession. Looked solid on the pp.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:06 PM ET
Has Bedard done anything tonight?
Can't watch, at a dinner with friends. Just checked the score and saw he hasn't put up any points.
Didn't have any points last night but otherwise played a solid game(would have had a goal had Ders challenged that no goal).

Lardis with a hattrick and an assist earlier today

- captainserious


The whole team just looks like they’ve checked out. There’s no urgency to what they do, Bedard included. Doesn’t bode well for the rest of the year.

There is no reason to play four vets on defense. Ideally, KD at least makes some moves to open up spots and bring in some new blood. I also agree that they should just play the kids together more (Bedard/Nazar, Reichel/Slaggert, etc).
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:11 PM ET
Lukas Reichel didn’t play half of the 2nd period and didn’t take a shift in the 3rd

Sorensen: “It was a coach’s decision. I didn’t like his game.”

FFS - just trade him already. If this thought was applied to everyone, Brodie would never see the ice again.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Feb 23 @ 10:46 PM ET
Lukas Reichel didn’t play half of the 2nd period and didn’t take a shift in the 3rd

Sorensen: “It was a coach’s decision. I didn’t like his game.”

FFS - just trade him already. If this thought was applied to everyone, Brodie would never see the ice again.

- Chunk

On the bright side, they improved 100% from the last game.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Feb 24 @ 7:15 AM ET
Lukas Reichel didn’t play half of the 2nd period and didn’t take a shift in the 3rd

Sorensen: “It was a coach’s decision. I didn’t like his game.”

FFS - just trade him already. If this thought was applied to everyone, Brodie would never see the ice again.

- Chunk

That’s just insane, they sit the kids but not the vets. Play the kids for crying out loud, they should be playing Vlasic, EDM, and Allan every game. By the way, Jones stated that he would go back to Columbus, so Jackets send Kent Johnson back and we call it a day.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Feb 24 @ 7:21 AM ET
4-4-1-2-4
It is my understanding the longtime organist for the Blackhawks played for the last time last night.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 24 @ 8:03 AM ET
4-4-1-2-4
It is my understanding the longtime organist for the Blackhawks played for the last time last night.

- 35Tony0


You understand a lot of stuff.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Feb 24 @ 8:40 AM ET
Someone posted earlier not to hold our breaths for Rantanen or Marner. I don't think either is coming to Chicago either. At best, the Hocks will have go overlay to grab a Sam Bennett or Ehlers. Not saying they are bad players,each is fine,but not superstars.

I assume if they land a big star it will be via trade. Something along the lines how Florida landed Tkachuk and Carolina Rantanen.

I'm not even upset that they suck,just wish they'd set up Bedard and Nazar to at least see them try and get some more confidence and produce a bit more.

- captainserious

I’d be very happy with Benny as our 2C tbh. What would you be willing to trade to Carolina in picks for Rantanen if he guarantees he’d sign an extension at say $14 mil?
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 24 @ 11:03 AM ET
That’s just insane, they sit the kids but not the vets. Play the kids for crying out loud, they should be playing Vlasic, EDM, and Allan every game. By the way, Jones stated that he would go back to Columbus, so Jackets send Kent Johnson back and we call it a day.
- Angotti


I see TT soft on the puck and putting in half effort when the puck is turned over and going back the other far too often... yet he is never benched.

Brodie and Martinez looking like turnstiles because they don't move their feet.

I watch Donato make a lot of bad decisions with the puck. I get it he tries hard and all but he never gets benched or demoted down a few lines for a lot of bad plays.

My uninformed speculation is that the coaching staff is being told by the front office to play the vets and try to win more games. Davidson made it clear the team was trying to win more games and he's gone down to the locker room twice (?) now and ripped into the team for losing and lack of effort.

In a rebuild but playing the vets as much as possible to win more games instead of playing the kids in all situations and giving the kids big minutes.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Feb 24 @ 11:04 AM ET
My theory on why Bedard with Donato and Maroon, or Kurashev with Bertuzzi and Nazar, or playing all the veteran Ds is that they would be showcasing anybody who is tradable. Only five more games before the deadline!
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