Would anyone be upset with the Hawks if:

R Donato/P. Mrazek ---> Oilers

E.Kane/J. Skinner ---> Hawks

Fixes the Hawks goalie problem, fits the Oilers Cap. Kane isn't playing the rest of this year. Skinner at least is a good shooter and isn't afraid to do so (over 2 per game averaging just over 12 TOI).

Vítek Vaněček Traded to Panthers to back up Bob. Too bad Mrazek wasn’t part of the Jones trade.
- Angotti

I think it works for FLA because Vaněček will be UFA, where Mrazek has another year on the books at 4+. What seemed apparent to me is that the Hawks want to keep Soderblom or he probably would have been part of the deal with FLA.

Vítek Vaněček Traded to Panthers to back up Bob. Too bad Mrazek wasn’t part of the Jones trade.
- Angotti

I was just looking at the same thing, but Vanacek is about $1M less than Mrazek, and his contract expires this year.

If they want to keep Askarov in the AHL this year, maybe the Hawks send them Petr?

Would anyone be upset with the Hawks if:

R Donato/P. Mrazek ---> Oilers

E.Kane/J. Skinner ---> Hawks

Fixes the Hawks goalie problem, fits the Oilers Cap. Kane isn't playing the rest of this year. Skinner at least is a good shooter and isn't afraid to do so (over 2 per game averaging just over 12 TOI).
- Chunk

So you're trading Donato for Skinner. IDK?

Would anyone be upset with the Hawks if:

R Donato/P. Mrazek ---> Oilers

E.Kane/J. Skinner ---> Hawks

Fixes the Hawks goalie problem, fits the Oilers Cap. Kane isn't playing the rest of this year. Skinner at least is a good shooter and isn't afraid to do so (over 2 per game averaging just over 12 TOI).
- Chunk

I just don't see how that helps the Blackhawks, they easily can eat Mrazeks contract, the last player you want on this team is Skinner.

Pass, Donato would be more of an asset to this team if they kept him and signed him. Hell even if they didn't sign him.

I just don't see how that helps the Blackhawks, they easily can eat Mrazeks contract, the last player you want on this team is Skinner.

Pass, Donato would be more of an asset to this team if they kept him and signed him. Hell even if they didn't sign him.
- BetweenTheDots

Sure, but carrying three goalies takes up an extra roster spot. You also don't want to just keep him on the team and not playing. Obviously, they could just keep him, but far from ideal. Maybe EDM adds a pick to make things more palatable.

Would anyone be upset with the Hawks if:

R Donato/P. Mrazek ---> Oilers

E.Kane/J. Skinner ---> Hawks

Fixes the Hawks goalie problem, fits the Oilers Cap. Kane isn't playing the rest of this year. Skinner at least is a good shooter and isn't afraid to do so (over 2 per game averaging just over 12 TOI).
- Chunk

Skinner has a NMC and it sounded like the direction as of 3 weeks ago is that Edmonton isn't planning on moving him. Here is what Bowman said.

"I don’t envision that being the case," Bowman said of potentially approaching Skinner about waiving his no-move clause. "He’s shown the real willingness to work through things with our group, and I commend him on that. He’s had a really great attitude the entire time. Haven’t had any complaints from him at all. He’s a professional and he’s got a lot of pride. He wants to take a step forward and play a bigger role. We’ve seen signs of that very recently, not only scoring the last game, but also made some noticeable plays with determination and finding a way to be able to contribute. That’s a great sign.

"There are not a lot of games left even though there’s a month till the deadline. I suppose things can always change, but that’s not the focus right now for Jeff."

I would say hard no if they were looking to move him. Skinner has always been pretty one dimensional IMO. His best days are past him. Evander Kane has worn out his welcome with yet another team and is coming off injuries last year and missing all this year. He will be 34. I wouldn't want a guy who is a potential locker room problem, who is entering his decline and has injury problems.

We don't need to move Mrazek that badly. We have enough older guys already, I don't want more that are going into their mid 30's and struggling to find a spot.

So you're trading Donato for Skinner. IDK?
- rpeters01

It's more about moving Mrazek. This is why I'm not any sort of GM.

Why is anyone worried about having 3 goalies, who cares.

The best news is i believe the last game is the first time they had more players 23 and under play in the game then over. That's all that matters now

I know at times it's going to be a hot mess but that's the next stage of the rebuild.

I think it works for FLA because Vaněček will be UFA, where Mrazek has another year on the books at 4+. What seemed apparent to me is that the Hawks want to keep Soderblom or he probably would have been part of the deal with FLA.
- breadbag

Yes, that’s the challenge, especially without another retention available. I’m thinking that this is a summer move when they gain two retentions.

Would anyone be upset with the Hawks if:

R Donato/P. Mrazek ---> Oilers

E.Kane/J. Skinner ---> Hawks

Fixes the Hawks goalie problem, fits the Oilers Cap. Kane isn't playing the rest of this year. Skinner at least is a good shooter and isn't afraid to do so (over 2 per game averaging just over 12 TOI).
- Chunk

Not me, I don’t want either of those guys, although I’d like KD to move Mrazek, but that’s not looking good. We need Bob to put out a rumor that there are four teams after him.
Edit - Bob is either sleeping or he’s visiting the local dispensary

As with all would-be FA's, they need to be available first. Then they also have to want to come to the Hawks (we saw this play out negatively with Guentzel this past summer). All indications seem to point to Marner wanting to remain with the Leafs.
- Chunk

True true true.

How about this... IF they are available, open the check book and let money talk. They would be outstanding adds.

Not me, I don’t want either of those guys, although I’d like KD to move Mrazek, but that’s not looking good. We need Bob to put out a rumor that there are four teams after him.
Edit - Bob is either sleeping or he’s visiting the local dispensary
- Angotti

Talked to “Bob” this morning he asked how JJ was ….

True true true.

How about this... IF they are available, open the check book and let money talk. They would be outstanding adds.
- frafra

And you pay Raantanen and Marner lets say $13- $14mil, what figure do you start your negotiations on Bedard's next contract?

And you pay Raantanen and Marner lets say $13- $14mil, what figure do you start your negotiations on Bedard's next contract?
- LAHawk

Details ….. but I know the poster who’d be furious when four players take up half the cap …..

True true true.

How about this... IF they are available, open the check book and let money talk. They would be outstanding adds.
- frafra

I have no doubt that is the mindset that KD has for this offseason. They have absolute boatloads of cap space, and draft picks/prospects. They can make smart acquisitions by a number of different methods and still maintain cap and roster flexibility.

Not to be forgotten, Rockford will be even more interesting to watch next year.

And you pay Raantanen and Marner lets say $13- $14mil, what figure do you start your negotiations on Bedard's next contract?
- LAHawk

Probably around $10M if he stays around what his current play is. If he starts to round out other parts of his game you could push it up a bit more.

Matthews second contract was $11.6M AAV, but he had already had two seasons where he was >1PPG and was a plus player who was more of a goal scorer (I don't care who you are that is weighted more than just point total).

Hughes second is $8M AAV is a minus player and had one season of >1PPG.

Probably around $10M if he stays around what his current play is. If he starts to round out other parts of his game you could push it up a bit more.

Matthews second contract was $11.6M AAV, but he had already had two seasons where he was >1PPG and was a plus player who was more of a goal scorer (I don't care who you are that is weighted more than just point total).

Hughes second is $8M AAV is a minus player and had one season of >1PPG.
- Chunk

I'm going to guess Bedard will get 3x8.5M-9.5M, just as a guess based on his play, maybe more, but that's just my blind guess

I'm going to guess Bedard will get 3x8.5M-9.5M, just as a guess based on his play, maybe more, but that's just my blind guess
- breadbag

So if you sign Raantanin or Marner, you are going to attempt to pay Bedard $5 mil. less per year? For how many years?

So if you sign Raantanin or Marner, you are going to attempt to pay Bedard $5 mil. less per year? For how many years?
- LAHawk

I like 2026 better Kaprizov Eichel Necas OConnor. I would prefer the trade this offseason if we want a bigger name. Don't ask me who though

So if you sign Raantanin or Marner, you are going to attempt to pay Bedard $5 mil. less per year? For how many years?
- LAHawk

I wouldn't pay Marner or Raantanin 14-15 million. Not worth it IMO. Bedard has a lot of potential, but I think he will need a short term contract to really prove his value. Right now, he isn't a double digit AAV player and he doesn't have all the leverage.

So if you sign Raantanin or Marner, you are going to attempt to pay Bedard $5 mil. less per year? For how many years?
- LAHawk

I don't think they'll sign either player.

The Lightning are discussing a trade with the Kraken that would see them acquire forwards Oliver Bjorkstrand and Yanni Gourde from Seattle, Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet reports. The deal is nearing the finish line and will see Tampa send two first-round picks to the Kraken as part of the return, Friedman adds.

I wouldn't pay Marner or Raantanin 14-15 million. Not worth it IMO. Bedard has a lot of potential, but I think he will need a short term contract to really prove his value. Right now, he isn't a double digit AAV player and he doesn't have all the leverage.
- breadbag

Think that will be the price if they want to get one of them though. Cap's going up, got to pay to play. Bedard will be in that range also.

Marner 7y x 15 m
Bedard 6y x 12 m

Could skip the higher priced free agents and crowdsource with a bunch of 5-8m guys. Bedard will have to get paid though. Without expensive FA there will be a longer wait.

So if you sign Raantanin or Marner, you are going to attempt to pay Bedard $5 mil. less per year? For how many years?
- LAHawk

What has he proven?

Marner has had a 97 and 99 pt season and is one of the better defensive forwards in the league. Rantanen has two 100pt and a 92 pt season and is also a better defensive forward.

Sure, they'll bank on Bedard's potential - which I still think is very high, but I really don't think his next contract is going to be $14-15M per year.