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6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Wednesday @ 7:46 PM ET
Maybe i'll get killed again, but Q is one of those that i really believe was hosed by MdD telling him to keep quiet and coach and the front office will take care of it. And him probably wanting to do just that.

He made a mistake but if you're a coach in the middle of a playoff push for a cup, and the first one, you could see him believing McD saying the FO will deal with it.

Obviously i don't know exatly what was said, but i think Q has paid his sentence and deserves a chance, especially if Stan did, he was higher up.

But obviously, not with the Hawks.

- vabeachbear


Agree completely.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Wednesday @ 7:47 PM ET
Maybe i'll get killed again, but Q is one of those that i really believe was hosed by MdD telling him to keep quiet and coach and the front office will take care of it. And him probably wanting to do just that.

He made a mistake but if you're a coach in the middle of a playoff push for a cup, and the first one, you could see him believing McD saying the FO will deal with it.

Obviously i don't know exatly what was said, but i think Q has paid his sentence and deserves a chance, especially if Stan did, he was higher up.

But obviously, not with the Hawks.

- vabeachbear


Agree completely.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Wednesday @ 7:53 PM ET
I recall Keith getting abused his first couple years but I struggle to remember this morning.
- rpeters01


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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Wednesday @ 8:18 PM ET
Maybe i'll get killed again, but Q is one of those that i really believe was hosed by MdD telling him to keep quiet and coach and the front office will take care of it. And him probably wanting to do just that.

He made a mistake but if you're a coach in the middle of a playoff push for a cup, and the first one, you could see him believing McD saying the FO will deal with it.

Obviously i don't know exatly what was said, but i think Q has paid his sentence and deserves a chance, especially if Stan did, he was higher up.

But obviously, not with the Hawks.

- vabeachbear


Idk…heard an interview with Q and Stan. Stan actually put in the work and seems to genuinely understand where he could’ve and should’ve done better. Never got that with Q…but I also get what you're saying.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Wednesday @ 8:25 PM ET
Wow, the board has been busy today. Here are my comments on some of the subjects covered today.
1. If they draft Schaefer, there will be 31 teams that would trade for Vlasic, for the right price anyone is available, even Bedard.
2. I’d rather not see Donato get overpaid, if he doesn’t take KD’s offer, see you.
3. Just because some college coaches have failed, doesn’t mean they will all fail. Hire Carle KD!
4. Nazar has a higher ceiling than Sharp.

- Angotti


Totally agree. Have seen some make the Brayden Point comp for Nazar. Sharp was a great complimentary player but I think Nazar can be a better one. Maybe he even becomes a cornerstone player.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Wednesday @ 8:29 PM ET
Totally agree. Have seen some make the Brayden Point comp for Nazar. Sharp was a great complimentary player but I think Nazar can be a better one. Maybe he even becomes a cornerstone player.
- HawkintheD


Not saying long term maybe, but right now, last 15 games, he's the best F on the team
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Wednesday @ 9:19 PM ET
Boisvert no longer in the portal, committed to BU this past weekend.
- vabeachbear

Good place for him. Their coach is big on skating.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Thursday @ 12:27 AM ET
Wow, the board has been busy today. Here are my comments on some of the subjects covered today.
1. If they draft Schaefer, there will be 31 teams that would trade for Vlasic, for the right price anyone is available, even Bedard.
2. I’d rather not see Donato get overpaid, if he doesn’t take KD’s offer, see you.
3. Just because some college coaches have failed, doesn’t mean they will all fail. Hire Carle KD!
4. Nazar has a higher ceiling than Sharp.

- Angotti

That would be nice. I've always thought Sharp was badly underrated. He was one of the fastest skaters on the team. Scored almost 300 goals, was 6'1" 200# (Hockey Reference PaulR), played 2C on the 2010 cup team, early in his career with Chicago he killed penalties and had a ton of SH goals. If Nazar comes close to that he's achieved his draft status.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Thursday @ 7:48 AM ET
That would be nice. I've always thought Sharp was badly underrated. He was one of the fastest skaters on the team. Scored almost 300 goals, was 6'1" 200# (Hockey Reference PaulR), played 2C on the 2010 cup team, early in his career with Chicago he killed penalties and had a ton of SH goals. If Nazar comes close to that he's achieved his draft status.
- rpeters01


If Nazar comes in next season and picks up where he left off while still not turning 22 til January, I think it’s safe to say he has a higher ceiling.

Basing my opinion on the fact that things didn’t start clicking for Sharp til he was 25. Like you though, wouldn’t underrate him and when you look at the bloodletting/Cap Casualties after the 2010 season, I think Stanbo made the right call to keep Sharp.

He was a pretty big player in all three Cups and I’m not sure you win the second two w/o him.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Thursday @ 7:49 AM ET
I'm interested to see what Nazar can do in a full season. He really started to heat up in April and bury some of his chances.

He ended up with 12 goals while not notching his first til his 12th game of the season and his second in the 19th game. He scored 6 of his 12 goals in the last 11 games.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Thursday @ 7:56 AM ET
If Nazar comes in next season and picks up where he left off while still not turning 22 til January, I think it’s safe to say he has a higher ceiling.

Basing my opinion on the fact that things didn’t start clicking for Sharp til he was 25. Like you though, wouldn’t underrate him and when you look at the bloodletting/Cap Casualties after the 2010 season, I think Stanbo made the right call to keep Sharp.

He was a pretty big player in all three Cups and I’m not sure you win the second two w/o him.

- HawkintheD


The beauty of that statement is the amount of players on those teams that sentence could be written about.

That's why building a semi dynasty in the NHL is very very difficult. Having 15 picks to find 4 or 5 special players makes that much easier than having 5 or 6 picks to find 4 or 5 special players.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Thursday @ 8:38 AM ET
If Mitch isn't interested, wait until the next summer.

- wiz1901

Preference between Kaprisov or Necas for a long term deal next offseason?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Thursday @ 9:05 AM ET
Preference between Kaprisov or Necas for a long term deal next offseason?
- Assman22


Guess Necas because the odds that Kaprizov hits the open market are between slim and none
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Thursday @ 9:08 AM ET
The beauty of that statement is the amount of players on those teams that sentence could be written about.

That's why building a semi dynasty in the NHL is very very difficult. Having 15 picks to find 4 or 5 special players makes that much easier than having 5 or 6 picks to find 4 or 5 special players.

- vabeachbear


Agree with that and I also think it’s part of why the dynasty couldn’t last. The Core was about 7 guys where ideally maybe you’d identify 5.

That and a couple Core guys really kind of wearing down before their time.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Thursday @ 9:10 AM ET
If Nazar comes in next season and picks up where he left off while still not turning 22 til January, I think it’s safe to say he has a higher ceiling.

Basing my opinion on the fact that things didn’t start clicking for Sharp til he was 25. Like you though, wouldn’t underrate him and when you look at the bloodletting/Cap Casualties after the 2010 season, I think Stanbo made the right call to keep Sharp.

He was a pretty big player in all three Cups and I’m not sure you win the second two w/o him.

- HawkintheD

That’s my main point as to why I think that Nazar has a higher ceiling. If Sharp had played like Nazar at 22, the Flyers would have never moved him. May 5th or 6th is the lottery, if the Hawks get the first spot, things will get very interesting.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Thursday @ 9:16 AM ET
That’s my main point as to why I think that Nazar has a higher ceiling. If Sharp had played like Nazar at 22, the Flyers would have never moved him. May 5th or 6th is the lottery, if the Hawks get the first spot, things will get very interesting.
- Angotti


Agree. Read somewhere that if they do the possibility of trading back say if someone right behind you at 2 or 3 wants to move up to draft Schafer…or do you just take him and not think twice. Depends on what someone is willing to give up I suppose.

Different scenarios but getting Knight for Jones has really brightened the picture for our goalie stable regarding players and prospects. That and Soda having a bit of a breakout year and same for Commesso in the A.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Thursday @ 9:16 AM ET
A couple of stats from the Sun Times this am…

Nazar’s surge

Frank Nazar caught fire in April, notching nine points (including five goals) in the Hawks’ last eight games. And in their last 13 games, he had 44 individual scoring chances — 11 more than anyone else.

Bedard’s draws

Through Jan. 26, Connor Bedard had won a woeful 32.0% of his faceoffs, which ranked last in the NHL. After that, however, he won a far more respectable 47.1%.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Thursday @ 9:19 AM ET
If Nazar comes in next season and picks up where he left off while still not turning 22 til January, I think it’s safe to say he has a higher ceiling.

Basing my opinion on the fact that things didn’t start clicking for Sharp til he was 25. Like you though, wouldn’t underrate him and when you look at the bloodletting/Cap Casualties after the 2010 season, I think Stanbo made the right call to keep Sharp.

He was a pretty big player in all three Cups and I’m not sure you win the second two w/o him.

- HawkintheD


Sharp was also a 3rd round pick.so him taking much more time to develop isn't surprising.

I do like the Nazar/Sharp comparison - speed,can play on the PK and PP.
I read either here or on twitter/X that Nazar isn't the type that will do well in the playoffs because he is on the smaller side. He might be smaller height wise,but he plays bigger, and that is a pretty good recipe for playoff success.

Can't believe I'm talkin about playoffs
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Thursday @ 9:26 AM ET
Sharp was also a 3rd round pick.so him taking much more time to develop isn't surprising.

I do like the Nazar/Sharp comparison - speed,can play on the PK and PP.
I read either here or on twitter/X that Nazar isn't the type that will do well in the playoffs because he is on the smaller side. He might be smaller height wise,but he plays bigger, and that is a pretty good recipe for playoff success.

Can't believe I'm talkin about playoffs

- captainserious


Something Paul mentioned the other day with Reichel certainly doesn’t apply to Nazar and that’s playing with heart and going to the front of the net.

I noticed that also with Moore and Greene in their brief time up (going to the net and taking a hit to make a play).

I noticed Reichel sticking his nose in there more on board battles but you can’t score all your goals off the rush. Will be interesting to see if he gets one more shot or KFC trades him this offseason.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Thursday @ 9:27 AM ET
Some other interesting stats from Pope this am…

Vulnerable leads

If games were only 20 minutes long, the Hawks would’ve been fine. They led at the first intermission in 28 games and trailed at that juncture 29 times. But their 11-11-6 record in those 28 games was by far the league’s worst.

Close woes

The Hawks also had the league’s worst record in games decided by one goal: 7-9-11. They went 3-7 in games that ended in overtime, as well as 2-4 in shootouts. Their close-game luck — or their killer instinct, depending on one’s perspective — was awful.

When excluding empty-net goals for and against (they were mostly against), the Hawks won only 11 of 45 games unofficially decided by one goal, which is ridiculous.

Quick crumbles

Another problem for the Hawks: quick bursts of goals against. They allowed multiple goals in a 60-second span on 16 occasions, tied for second-most in the league.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Thursday @ 9:48 AM ET
Sharp was also a 3rd round pick.so him taking much more time to develop isn't surprising.

I do like the Nazar/Sharp comparison - speed,can play on the PK and PP.
I read either here or on twitter/X that Nazar isn't the type that will do well in the playoffs because he is on the smaller side. He might be smaller height wise,but he plays bigger, and that is a pretty good recipe for playoff success.

Can't believe I'm talkin about playoffs

- captainserious


Kind of like Lardis, 3rd round pick longer to develop?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Thursday @ 9:52 AM ET
A couple of stats from the Sun Times this am…

Nazar’s surge

Frank Nazar caught fire in April, notching nine points (including five goals) in the Hawks’ last eight games. And in their last 13 games, he had 44 individual scoring chances — 11 more than anyone else.

Bedard’s draws

Through Jan. 26, Connor Bedard had won a woeful 32.0% of his faceoffs, which ranked last in the NHL. After that, however, he won a far more respectable 47.1%.

- HawkintheD



Hang on, tough guy, are you trying to alleged that a player as old as 19 can still make improvements to his game? Funny guy, this HawkintheD.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Thursday @ 9:55 AM ET
That’s my main point as to why I think that Nazar has a higher ceiling. If Sharp had played like Nazar at 22, the Flyers would have never moved him. May 5th or 6th is the lottery, if the Hawks get the first spot, things will get very interesting.
- Angotti


Nazar is a really nice young hockey player. If this is the profile KD is looking for I'm really excited, he's just not a one trick pony, when he gets better at receiving and handling the puck on his back hand side he's really going to be dangerous
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Thursday @ 10:07 AM ET
Moore didn't look out of place, neither did Greene.

I know i said this during Moores draft year and someone said I'm ridiculous to be thinking about lines already

Still can't wait to see
Nazar, Moore, Lardis line
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Thursday @ 10:22 AM ET
Hang on, tough guy, are you trying to alleged that a player as old as 19 can still make improvements to his game? Funny guy, this HawkintheD.
- mohel

I could be wrong, but it seemed as the season went on Bedard often did not take the draws even though he was playing center. Maybe it depended on who his wingers were or which side the draw was on or if it was in the offensive or defensive zone or the point in the game.

I like his comments about working on strength and speed in the off season. Perhaps playing with a younger players like Nazar has had a positive influence on him.

Watching his development should be fun. The sky is the limit for him.
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