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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Yesterday @ 1:45 PM ET
He may have a 2-way game but Hossa on the backcheck was something else. I think the only player (for the Hawks) I've personally seen with that level of backchecking effort was Kruger. I think also Hossa in board battles was another very elite aspect of his game. I'm not saying Frondell isn't going to have a good 2-way game, but gonna be tough to match Hossa in the areas he was excellent, at least without probably getting more mature, stronger and getting at least a couple years of experience.

That's my long winded way of saying it's tough to find exact comparable as these guys are all pretty unique. Frondell might have some similary to Barkov, maybe some to Hossa, and I'm going to add in a little bit of Draisaitl (probably not going to hit that level of offensive production, I'll admit).

- breadbag


You know i thought a little Draisaitl as well. If Frondell's injuries are behind him i think he will be a very good NHL player.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Yesterday @ 3:27 PM ET
You know i thought a little Draisaitl as well. If Frondell's injuries are behind him i think he will be a very good NHL player.
- BetweenTheDots


He should be decent. I know there are some belief that he will never be as much of a play driver to become a star player, which might be the case, but hey, sometimes guys are surpass expectations. It will be good to see him on the ice and see what he can do.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Yesterday @ 3:30 PM ET
The way the compensation schedule is set up, we'll almost exclusively be seeing the type of moves made by STL last summer, where it costs a 2nd to pay $4,680,076. https://puckpedia.com/new...25-2026-offer-sheet-tiers

Most contending teams don't have the money available to offer sheet players in higher tier, as fun as it is to talk about it. But there could come a time when a contending team has a ton of expiring contracts and they decide it's worth gambling away that 28th pick plus.

- 333inthe3rd


I think you are right. The top end guys mostly don't end up in the situation where a team can even make an offer and it has to be an offer that the player is willing to sign. Plus, while we might groan about some the moves GMs make, most of them have their ear to the ground enough with their own players to move them via trade before something huge happens with a legit star player.
LetsGoHawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Joined: 12.12.2009

Yesterday @ 3:48 PM ET
Tony Granato was recently on NHL Radio. Seemed to confirm the Hawks see Rinzel, Levshunov, and Vlasik as their longterm core D assets. KK is a wild card still. Granato felt KK was trying to do too much when called up. No comments on others.


Jeff Blashill was on NHL Radio yesterday. Said Frondell will be given every opportunity to make the team. Really high on Knight . . . followed him closely when living near USNDTP and his best friend (I believe Danton Cole) coached Knight. Said he believes that 98 taking the next step is two things -- one, learning to use his smarts to create space (similar to Kucherov) which takes longer than guys who use their legs/speed to create space and two, maturity to do the little things consistently.


LetsGoHawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Joined: 12.12.2009

Yesterday @ 3:53 PM ET
2026 UFAs. Starting 7/1/26 teams will only be able to offer six year max contracts to UFAs. Prior to 7/1/26, existing rights holders will still be able to offer eight year max contracts. So, incumbent teams have a two year advantage for the upcoming class. That and the rising cap dynamics show the wisdom of the Hawks strategy of building through the draft primarily.

Lots of mentions of Kaprizov, but seems MN is ready to write a blank check for 8 years to keep him. But I wonder about KFC signing KFC (Kyle Connor) who might want to get closer to home. He and his new bride are both from Michigan.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Yesterday @ 4:34 PM ET
You know i thought a little Draisaitl as well. If Frondell's injuries are behind him i think he will be a very good NHL player.
- BetweenTheDots

Anton Barksaitl.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Yesterday @ 5:06 PM ET
Anton Barksaitl.
- paulr


Anton Bustdell
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Yesterday @ 5:14 PM ET
Anton Bustdell
- Chunk

Goes without saying.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Yesterday @ 5:31 PM ET
Goes without saying.
- paulr


The moment JR called his name…his fate was sealed.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Yesterday @ 9:06 PM ET
I don't think KK is a lottery ticket, he's going to be a good defenseman in the league. I know Elbows is the be all end all here, but i disagree with him i see some Roman Josi in the kid.
- BetweenTheDots

And don't you forget it.

there is only one way KK will ever have little Josi in him...
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Yesterday @ 9:19 PM ET
And don't you forget it.

there is only one way KK will ever have little Josi in him...

- Elbows15

MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Yesterday @ 10:06 PM ET
Isaac Howard to the Oil (and signed) for Sam O’Reilly.
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC...tatus/1942764476358373405
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Yesterday @ 10:50 PM ET

- paulr

totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Yesterday @ 11:31 PM ET
Isaac Howard to the Oil (and signed) for Sam O’Reilly.
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC...tatus/1942764476358373405

- MartiniMan


Seems like that was the going rate - a player drafted in a similar spot and not draft pick(s).

For CHI that would probably mean Vanacker, and KFC wouldn't do that. Stan would give a similar player.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Yesterday @ 11:31 PM ET
Some golfer thought it was a wise idea to fight ex NHLer Nick Tarnasky. Tarnasky yelling BANG every time he punches the guy’s face is priceless.

https://youtu.be/YPwvspC000k?si=lArA52vOS1UnjPIG
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Today @ 12:07 AM ET
Seems like that was the going rate - a player drafted in a similar spot and not draft pick(s).

For CHI that would probably mean Vanacker, and KFC wouldn't do that. Stan would give a similar player.

- totem

(frank)!
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Today @ 7:32 AM ET
Some golfer thought it was a wise idea to fight ex NHLer Nick Tarnasky. Tarnasky yelling BANG every time he punches the guy’s face is priceless.

https://youtu.be/YPwvspC000k?si=lArA52vOS1UnjPIG

- paulr


Thats nuts, and kind of funny, actually very funny (as long as your not the drunk A hole getting banged)
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Today @ 7:32 AM ET
Isaac Howard to the Oil (and signed) for Sam O’Reilly.
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC...tatus/1942764476358373405

- MartiniMan


So much for the story that he wanted to play with Frankie, and would be the only team he wanted to go to..............
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Today @ 7:37 AM ET
How often does your grumpy ass watch Barkov though?
- Assman22


Barkov is kind of a quiet star.

Does all the little things. Others on that team get the headlines; Tkatuck, Bennett, Rheinhardt, Marchand, etc.

But Barkov is the glue. In that way, very similar to Hossa. Others got the headlines on those Hawks team, but Hossa was the glue.

Just imagine if the cap did back then (like it was supposed to when they signed Toews and Kane) like it did this year.

Cap really screwed out of at least one if not a couple more cups.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Today @ 9:33 AM ET
Barkov is kind of a quiet star.

Does all the little things. Others on that team get the headlines; Tkatuck, Bennett, Rheinhardt, Marchand, etc.

But Barkov is the glue. In that way, very similar to Hossa. Others got the headlines on those Hawks team, but Hossa was the glue.

Just imagine if the cap did back then (like it was supposed to when they signed Toews and Kane) like it did this year.

Cap really screwed out of at least one if not a couple more cups.

- vabeachbear


I think that team that won in 2010 had it been able to stay together and not been ripped apart by the Cap, could’ve easily won a couple more Cups.

Not only would you have prime years of Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabs, Hammer and Bolland but Byfuglien, Ladd and Brower all in their primes as well.

Would also have set them up better for trades vs every team in the league knowing they had Stan over a barrell.
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