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rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Yesterday @ 3:38 PM ET
Frondell signed ELC

Also read today that Kantserov signed or should i say is signing his, with the intent to come to Chicago after his KHL season this year. (which must be fake news as russians don't come over, except for the ones that do)

- vabeachbear

Danny made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Yesterday @ 4:11 PM ET
Frondell signed ELC

Also read today that Kantserov signed or should i say is signing his, with the intent to come to Chicago after his KHL season this year. (which must be fake news as russians don't come over, except for the ones that do)

- vabeachbear

The kids are coming and they're coming fast...

Frondell, Kantserov, Moore, Lardis, Savoie, Dach, Greene should all be fighting for open roster spots in the spring once Dckinson, Lafferty, and maybe Mikheyev and Foligno find new homes on contenders.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Yesterday @ 4:18 PM ET
The kids are coming and they're coming fast...

Frondell, Kantserov, Moore, Lardis, Savoie, Dach, Greene should all be fighting for open roster spots in the spring once Dckinson, Lafferty, and maybe Mikheyev and Foligno find new homes on contenders.

- TommyHawk

If there’s a vet to keep from this group, I’d keep the Russian.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Yesterday @ 4:37 PM ET
I don't think Lafferty is going anywhere. And Mikheyev plays well defensively.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Yesterday @ 4:48 PM ET
I don't think Lafferty is going anywhere. And Mikheyev plays well defensively.
- bjphawkfan

Agreed and those are the vets to keep. Especially if the other kid from Mother Russia comes over in the spring or whenever his season is over.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Yesterday @ 5:22 PM ET
Agreed and those are the vets to keep. Especially if the other kid from Mother Russia comes over in the spring or whenever his season is over.
- BGKarras

The Mik is a better Viktor Stahlberg.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Yesterday @ 5:24 PM ET
Agreed! But you argue with anyone suggesting trading draft picks or prospects.

And right now the Hawk’s defense and goaltender are in decent shape. They need to start building the forward ranks.

- paulr


So when do you trust your scouting staff?

Hawks defense is in good shape because they drafted well

Knight was a great trade.

So he drafted, Nazar, Bedard, Moore, Boisvert, Vanacker, Frondell, Nestrasil and West, all 1st round picks, that's not including 2nd and 3rd round picks.

So when i say the forwards are coming they are we just don't know which ones will be the studs of the group

No one saw Rinzel coming and now he looks like a guy you can build around.

I know you don't think a team can be built this way but why not? As Zawaski put it KD is frustratingly patient for a GM.



wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Yesterday @ 6:22 PM ET
Chicago needs NHL ready or close to ready forwards not more draft picks.
- paulr


And they will only have good ones if they develop them in house, because there are more than a few many suitors for them when their present team decides they want to launch one of them.

So far have ANY yiungster traded even youngster for youngster for youngster, has any of them walked in to a new team instantly flourished?


Most have a possible top 6 forward label, but actually are not top y6 ready.

And if you mean older close to ready, I don't see Jorden Kyrou, Sahne Pinto or even a newly arrived in Ottawa Cozens departure for equal value...you pay pay pay.

They CAN get the best player in a deal, but it doesn't mean it is any type impact.

The impact comes when the #3 overall, Greene and Moore grow to pros.


BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Yesterday @ 6:40 PM ET
And they will only have good ones if they develop them in house, because there are more than a few many suitors for them when their present team decides they want to launch one of them.

So far have ANY yiungster traded even youngster for youngster for youngster, has any of them walked in to a new team instantly flourished?


Most have a possible top 6 forward label, but actually are not top y6 ready.

And if you mean older close to ready, I don't see Jorden Kyrou, Sahne Pinto or even a newly arrived in Ottawa Cozens departure for equal value...you pay pay pay.

They CAN get the best player in a deal, but it doesn't mean it is any type impact.

The impact comes when the #3 overall, Greene and Moore grow to pros.

- wiz1901


And on top of it we will have for now 2 1st round picks and 3 seconds next season, by the time we get to next year we will have more answers from the season played than questions.

The best example of this is Rinzels growth taking off and Korchinski s slower rate of it. This is the purpose of accumulating 1st round picks. KD has cast a wide net let's bring that net in before determining there's no fish in it to keep.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Yesterday @ 6:44 PM ET
The Mik is a better Viktor Stahlberg.
- rpeters01

Agreed
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Yesterday @ 9:12 PM ET
Frondell signed ELC

Also read today that Kantserov signed or should i say is signing his, with the intent to come to Chicago after his KHL season this year. (which must be fake news as russians don't come over, except for the ones that do)

- vabeachbear


If you bothered to actually remember what those conversations were about - it was entirely about risk assessments at the time. I'm guessing since you wrote it twice that context never was overly relevant - so, whatever.

SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Yesterday @ 9:14 PM ET
If there’s a vet to keep from this group, I’d keep the Russian.
- Angotti


Same here- fits in well, is personable, doesn't need a translator (in the Panarin sense) -so is a pretty good guide as to the league for those just new to the league but from playing elsewhere.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Yesterday @ 10:54 PM ET
Same here- fits in well, is personable, doesn't need a translator (in the Panarin sense) -so is a pretty good guide as to the league for those just new to the league but from playing elsewhere.
- SC116


He was really good, especially once LR was let go. 2nd only to Donato in Even Strength goals in those 56 games. Donato scored 17 at even strength, Mikheyev had 15, Bertuzzi 11, Nazar 10, Bedard 9. All those guys were double digit minus is the +/- but Mikheyev came out at +2 over that span. Really solid.
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