Kind of hilarious that the excuses for Frost are still out there. Michkov was scratched for 2 games, and came back and excelled. Michkov is 19 and Frost is 25. Something wrong with this picture? Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout

Well, for starters, Michkov is an elite hockey talent and Frost is not.

Well, for starters, Michkov is an elite hockey talent and Frost is not.
- mikeyo27

depends who you talk to

depends who you talk to
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I don't think you have ever talked to anyone who says Frost is an elite talent.

I don't think you have ever talked to anyone who says Frost is an elite talent.
- MBFlyerfan

appreciate the info

I really do not believe Tippett's contract will not be an anchor. With the cap rising, his cap hit will be in line for 2nd line wingers. He-s a shoot first forward who needs to be fed the puck. When Frost gets scratched, down to 1 center with somewhat creative passing ability. Just hit the net more- rebounds on a save is not a bad thing.
- Trox88

with his speed he could be and should be a force on the backcheck, great way to stop the other team and create a turnover. While not scoring, he needs create TO's and feed Frost and MM, going the other way.

with his speed he could be and should be a force on the backcheck, great way to stop the other team and create a turnover. While not scoring, he needs create TO's and feed Frost and MM, going the other way.
- wcorvette

If he had enough hockey sense to read the play that might work.

tippet has poop for brains. low hockey sense.
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This is an issue that I think I overlooked. I knew that he had trouble using his line mates, but I guess I didn't realize that he really struggles with thinking the game at the NHL level. He DOES NOT see the ice very well. He also has a really good shot, but I have noticed that he seems to struggle with one timers.

Taking a couple of teams into overtime means Philly is playing solid hockey? Look at their record against teams in a playoff spot. Terrible. Last year they missed the playoffs by 4 points. That was solid. This year they will miss by 10+ and finish bottom 10 in the NHL.

tippet has poop for brains. low hockey sense.
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Ill laugh my balls off if MM scores 30 this year before Tippett does

The problem I have is that he remained scratched despite the poor performance of other players who did not get scratched. Players who were performing poorly at the same time Frost was, yet stayed in the line up.
- MBFlyerfan

It's also cumulative in how it affects a player. One player scratched 2 games isn't remotely equal to how Frost has been treated in his Flyers career obviously. Frost has even been scratched when he was playing well. I don't think this coach will ever give Frost a fair shake. I don't see Frost developing here as long as Tortorella is here.

This is an issue that I think I overlooked. I knew that he had trouble using his line mates, but I guess I didn't realize that he really struggles with thinking the game at the NHL level. He DOES NOT see the ice very well. He also has a really good shot, but I have noticed that he seems to struggle with one timers.
- Phillywhiteout

This is pretty harsh about Nathan MacKinnon

Ill laugh my balls off if MM scores 30 this year before Tippett does
- THE BLACK HAND

a very realistic possibility.

It's also cumulative in how it affects a player. One player scratched 2 games isn't remotely equal to how Frost has been treated in his Flyers career obviously. Frost has even been scratched when he was playing well. I don't think this coach will ever give Frost a fair shake. I don't see Frost developing here as long as Tortorella is here.
- MJL

beating the dead drum. any new topics?

beating the dead drum. any new topics?
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I think MJL is actually Frost himself.

I think MJL is actually Frost himself.
- Phillywhiteout

He has to do a lot more than have one strong game.

According to Dailyfaceoff Flyers appear to be in on Jiricek. MIN allegedly the Front runner.

Ill laugh my balls off if MM scores 30 this year before Tippett does
- THE BLACK HAND

Why? MM is a far higher talent level than Tippett. Tippett should be a 30 goal scorer but hes still topping out at 60 points at best.

MM is a future 100 point player and the best player in the draft outside of Bedard. We got something special in MM. Analysts were reserved with his production in Season 1 and they still projected him to be in the 60 point range which is Tippetts ceiling.

Why? MM is a far higher talent level than Tippett. Tippett should be a 30 goal scorer but hes still topping out at 60 points at best.

MM is a future 100 point player and the best player in the draft outside of Bedard. We got something special in MM. Analysts were reserved with his production in Season 1 and they still projected him to be in the 60 point range which is Tippetts ceiling.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

He's actually throwing shade at me. He's upset cause I no longer engage him on here. He's like a little child kicking and screaming for attention. It's actually kind of sad for an apparent full grown adult to act this way, if not downright disturbing. Eh what?

Why? MM is a far higher talent level than Tippett. Tippett should be a 30 goal scorer but hes still topping out at 60 points at best.

MM is a future 100 point player and the best player in the draft outside of Bedard. We got something special in MM. Analysts were reserved with his production in Season 1 and they still projected him to be in the 60 point range which is Tippetts ceiling.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Agreed, Tippett does not have the passing ability as Michkov. Tippett's contract extension reflects those limitations. Certainly, an arguement could be made it should not have been the Flyers giving it to him. That ship has sailed. Pretty much the reason why Tippett will not be scratched. This organization viewed him as part of the foundation. Tippett gets the opportunity to work thru his issues by playing.

Agreed, Tippett does not have the passing ability as Michkov. Tippett's contract extension reflects those limitations. Certainly, an arguement could be made it should not have been the Flyers giving it to him. That ship has sailed. Pretty much the reason why Tippett will not be scratched. This organization viewed him as part of the foundation. Tippett gets the opportunity to work thru his issues by playing.
- Trox88

Agreed, Tippett does not have the passing ability as Michkov. Tippett's contract extension reflects those limitations. Certainly, an arguement could be made it should not have been the Flyers giving it to him. That ship has sailed. Pretty much the reason why Tippett will not be scratched. This organization viewed him as part of the foundation. Tippett gets the opportunity to work thru his issues by playing.
- Trox88

Which I'm perfectly fine with. I don't want Tippett scratched. He'll come around. He'll go on a hot streak here or there. It makes no sense to sit him down. Won't accomplish anything. The Flyers young forwards would improve if they had competent coaching. The Flyers offensive coaching is horrendous

Frost has already passed Jonsey in flyers HOF votes.

Interesting to listen to Darren Dreger on the Hockey insiders…say’s several teams see Risto as a top 4 d man and that the term left on his contract is actually a positive…these teams have interest. …..also see’s Laughton getting a “valuable” 1rst rounder or a top prospect if the Flyers are willing to move him. Different perspectives I guess then what I would think,

Why? MM is a far higher talent level than Tippett. Tippett should be a 30 goal scorer but hes still topping out at 60 points at best.

MM is a future 100 point player and the best player in the draft outside of Bedard. We got something special in MM. Analysts were reserved with his production in Season 1 and they still projected him to be in the 60 point range which is Tippetts ceiling.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

FFS

Kind of hilarious that the excuses for Frost are still out there. Michkov was scratched for 2 games, and came back and excelled. Michkov is 19 and Frost is 25. Something wrong with this picture? Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout

Couldn't agree more