Who are the best players on the team? Who is the best forward? Who is the best defenseman? If what you said was actually true. The Flyers wouldn't have drafted Jett Luchanko
- MJL

Best forward: TK is the top forward, Michkov is 2nd
Best defenseman: Risto of course The Flyers are building a nice corp of young defenseman lead by York and Andrae, with Bonk coming.

What was the problem drafting Luchanko? The Flyers clearly need centers and Luchanko might turn out to be one the best centers chosen in this draft.

Is Lavvy on his way out of New York?

Seeler's contract is so irrelevant. It does not matter if its 4 years or 2 year. Its cheap money, especially with the cap going up. And after next season he loses his no trade clause, so if the Flyers want to move him they can. Even now, if they wanted to waive him and send to the AHL they could with very little cap penalty. I don't understand why so many fixate on Seeler or Hathaway. Its short money and both bring a lot to the team on a nightly basis.
- jd250

of course it is irrelevant. flyers can do no wrong. cap going up makes it ok to waste that increase on seeler types.

no they can't move him as does he not have a ntc for 2 years? Waive him lol, you crack me up as the flyers are the gold standard they do not do that to the respected vets who bleed orange and black. they wont waive ND for gods sake

flyers never or rarely win at the margins. had both been traded you accumulate more assets do you not? Then you go sign those types to 1 year deals if that is what you want to do. You do not tie yourself down long term. it also potentially blocks players from getting in the lineup does it not?

Seeler's contract is so irrelevant. It does not matter if its 4 years or 2 year. Its cheap money, especially with the cap going up. And after next season he loses his no trade clause, so if the Flyers want to move him they can. Even now, if they wanted to waive him and send to the AHL they could with very little cap penalty. I don't understand why so many fixate on Seeler or Hathaway. Its short money and both bring a lot to the team on a nightly basis.
- jd250

That is not correct. The Flyers right now have plenty of defenseman. They have Sanheim, York, Andrae, Ristolainen, Drysdale, Seeler, Grans, Zamula and Johnson. That is 9 defenseman that can play in the NHL. Seeler right now is playing at a 3rd pair level. 2.7M for a 3rd pair defenseman on a 4 year deal when you have other options for depth defenseman. Cheaper and most importantly, young players that can develop, is poor cap management. Demoting Seeler would add 1.55M of dead cap space

I don't know, it really depends on the decisions they make and how successful the outcomes of those decisions are. It could be in 2 or 3 years, or it could be another decade. What I can say is the trend is going in the right direction.
- jd250

2 or 3 years is laughable to me. they have an average roster. nothing game changing on the way. which leads to more mediocrity. if another decade than that tk was a waste no?

they have not shown they are willing or capable of making any hard decisions.

what trend is going in the right direction?

Best forward: TK is the top forward, Michkov is 2nd
Best defenseman: Risto of course The Flyers are building a nice corp of young defenseman lead by York and Andrae, with Bonk coming.

What was the problem drafting Luchanko? The Flyers clearly need centers and Luchanko might turn out to be one the best centers chosen in this draft.
- jd250

The best skaters at their position were drafted by Hextall. Konecny and Sanheim. Sanheim, whom you repeatedly posted SUCKS. Including this season.

Luchanko was not drafted due to his high skill level. He is moderately skilled. He is not a player with a flawed all around game that was drafted because of a high skilled level. He is a rated as a potential 2/3C with a strong all around game. If what you said was true about the Flyers draft philosophy changing. They would've drafted Buium

I'm still waiting for you to post how I was wrong about Konecny.

Every day it's more fantasy. Yesterday it was there is no such thing as a low zone collapse defensive system in hockey. When half the league plays that system. Flyers play the same EXACT system as a Carolina and now more today.

That is not correct. The Flyers right now have plenty of defenseman. They have Sanheim, York, Andrae, Ristolainen, Drysdale, Seeler, Grans, Zamula and Johnson. That is 9 defenseman that can play in the NHL. Seeler right now is playing at a 3rd pair level. 2.7M for a 3rd pair defenseman on a 4 year deal when you have other options for depth defenseman. Cheaper and most importantly, young players that can develop, is poor cap management. Demoting Seeler would add 1.55M of dead cap space
- MJL

Agree, Seeler should be the 7th D. Johnson should not have been signed.

Agree, Seeler should be the 7th D. Johnson should not have been signed.
- WhiskeyMan

Seeler as the 7th defenseman at 2.7M would not be good value. He wouldn't have signed for less. The Flyers should have traded him.

The best skaters at their position were drafted by Hextall. Konecny and Sanheim. Sanheim, whom you repeatedly posted SUCKS. Including this season.

Luchanko was not drafted due to his high skill level. He is moderately skilled. He is not a player with a flawed all around game that was drafted because of a high skilled level. He is a rated as a potential 2/3C with a strong all around game. If what you said was true about the Flyers draft philosophy changing. They would've drafted Buium

I'm still waiting for you to post how I was wrong about Konecny.

Every day it's more fantasy. Yesterday it was there is no such thing as a low zone collapse defensive system in hockey. When half the league plays that system. Flyers play the same EXACT system as a Carolina and now more today.
- MJL

If anything TK is doing exactly what I/most expect him to do. Lead the team offensively and be an All Star level player. I like TK as a player. Just do not think agreeing to an 8 year extension was the right move for this team.

The best skaters at their position were drafted by Hextall. Konecny and Sanheim. Sanheim, whom you repeatedly posted SUCKS. Including this season.

Luchanko was not drafted due to his high skill level. He is moderately skilled. He is not a player with a flawed all around game that was drafted because of a high skilled level. He is a rated as a potential 2/3C with a strong all around game. If what you said was true about the Flyers draft philosophy changing. They would've drafted Buium

I'm still waiting for you to post how I was wrong about Konecny.

Every day it's more fantasy. Yesterday it was there is no such thing as a low zone collapse defensive system in hockey. When half the league plays that system. Flyers play the same EXACT system as a Carolina and now more today.
- MJL

bingo. also look at their 2nd round pick. typical flyer traits

Agree, Seeler should be the 7th D. Johnson should not have been signed.
- WhiskeyMan

seeler is a bottom pair dman on every nhl team play wise. never ever in any kind of weather should he have been re-signed.

once again it seems the flyers talent evaluation was off.

Seeler as the 7th defenseman at 2.7M would not be good value. He wouldn't have signed for less. The Flyers should have traded him.
- MJL

yeah, I should have included 7th D at a lesser amount. Do you think there was there really much interest in a trade for him?

The Room is who the Flyers should be focused on moving. He is playing 4th line wing on this team. He is a good PK'er. If teams offer a second or better he should be traded this season.

They have a few players that could take on more PK responsibility and they should be able to cover his 5 on 5 minutes.

You can see that their is development, you can see there is talent in the organization, there has been good drafting, I think Andrae is a good example. I think of someone like him, then I think of TK, Sanheim, it reminds me that there is a reason a player has a prime, both have shown they are more than I thought. Yes, the Flyers need elite talent, but I am also curious to see some of the current team hit their prime. Which also leads to, most of those players are 24-25, still 2 years from prime. Any thought of competing, would have to logically be connected to that group hitting their prime.

You can see that their is development, you can see there is talent in the organization, there has been good drafting, I think Andrae is a good example. I think of someone like him, then I think of TK, Sanheim, it reminds me that there is a reason a player has a prime, both have shown they are more than I thought. Yes, the Flyers need elite talent, but I am also curious to see some of the current team hit their prime. Which also leads to, most of those players are 24-25, still 2 years from prime. Any thought of competing, would have to logically be connected to that group hitting their prime.
- wcorvette

They need the top level talent so they can slot the current group into situations they are capable of excelling in.

Daniil Chayka put on waivers by Vegas. He is apparently returning to the KHL. Should the Flyers take a flyer on him? Second round pick in 2021.

yeah, I should have included 7th D at a lesser amount. Do you think there was there really much interest in a trade for him?
- WhiskeyMan

yes 100%. he was very cheap playing at his best with no future commitment. could have easily got a 3rd minimum imo.

he played well last year before he got hurt

You can see that their is development, you can see there is talent in the organization, there has been good drafting, I think Andrae is a good example. I think of someone like him, then I think of TK, Sanheim, it reminds me that there is a reason a player has a prime, both have shown they are more than I thought. Yes, the Flyers need elite talent, but I am also curious to see some of the current team hit their prime. Which also leads to, most of those players are 24-25, still 2 years from prime. Any thought of competing, would have to logically be connected to that group hitting their prime.
- wcorvette

the younger players on the roster outside of MM will not be anything special in their prime to me. that is the issue. to many passengers and complimentary types. which can always be acquired.

yes 100%. he was very cheap playing at his best with no future commitment. could have easily got a 3rd minimum imo.

he played well last year before he got hurt
- login

Did Walker make him look good? He is not the same this year.

Seeler as the 7th defenseman at 2.7M would not be good value. He wouldn't have signed for less. The Flyers should have traded him.
- MJL

you previously claimed he was too valuable to trade.

Did Walker make him look good? He is not the same this year.
- WhiskeyMan

he hasn't looked good since he came back from his injury. last season. he played well before walker though that could have helped him sure.

IMO when a guy like Seeler starts to regress it goes south fast.

Agree, Seeler should be the 7th D. Johnson should not have been signed.
- WhiskeyMan

Other way around. Seele shouldnt have been signed. EJ should be the 7th D. Seeler is not a 7th D, that is why he should have been moved. Regression from Seeler was always a possibility but it looks as if he is going to be a solid bottom 4 Dman

you previously claimed he was too valuable to trade.
- Peter Richards

I can't see MJL saying that. I think he would trade most players to get the young kids more ice time.

you previously claimed he was too valuable to trade.
- Peter Richards

You beat me to it! Last year, he was totally on board with keeping Seeler. It's public record.

Best forward: TK is the top forward, Michkov is 2nd
Best defenseman: Risto of course The Flyers are building a nice corp of young defenseman lead by York and Andrae, with Bonk coming.

What was the problem drafting Luchanko? The Flyers clearly need centers and Luchanko might turn out to be one the best centers chosen in this draft.
- jd250

Yes…TK is the teams best forward. I also think Risto is playing a steady solid game….but Sanheim has hands down been the best d man this year.
I do agree on Luchanko as well. His ceiling is probably a top Center. Sure he may not reach it but the kid has a ton of skill and also is an elite skater. As well, he just turned 18 at the end of the summer…so much time still to develop.