Sanheim was a solid player before Tortorella arrived. You just didn't realize it due to a clear bias. Even posting that Sanheim SUCKS earlier this season. Your typical narrative is to either downgrade a player in the past or falsely upgrade a player now. All in an attempt to prove the fantasy that Tortorella is some miracle coach. Including propping up Tortorella as the "hands down" winner of the Jack Adams.
- MJL

yes solid not as good as he playing now. big difference.

This is too easy, just look at the coaches Risto had in the NHL before Torts. Where are they now? Ted Nolan, Dan Bylsma, Phil Housley, Ralph Krueger, AV and Yeo. Please already! Dan Bylsma just got a job with Seattle this year after being fired in Buffalo in 2016. Yeo is a career assistant coach.
- jd250

What about the assistants? You routinely credit Shaw for the Flyers defense. Every post you make is full of holes and is easily discredited.

Listen, I get you are trying to troll with this nonsense, but it is getting old.
- MBFlyerfan

It's highly entertaining. I hope it continues.

Listen, I get you are trying to troll with this nonsense, but it is getting old.
- MBFlyerfan

he believes it. 100%. no trolling

Let's summarize. The players you favor aren't doing any good because of who the play with. The players who are doing good is due to the coach.
The players who you don't favor, are doing poorly because they aren't any good and have nothing to do with the coach.

Question for you. Last season, when Tippett scored what, 28 goals. Who was the good center he was playing with?
- MJL

The guy is in a slump, its that simple. You can't dismiss two years of almost 30 goals because he has had a poor start to this season. Tippet has the skills to get back on track and he will. Farabee on the other hand doesn't have the skill Tippet has, so what you see is what you get with him.

None of that is accurate. By your comments, we're to believe that Sanheim completely couldn't play,.couldn't do anything. In the time that Tortorella was here, he went from that to a top pairing defenseman?

Question for you. How did Sanheim win the Barry Ashbee award as the Flyers best defenseman in the 21/22 season. Which was before Tortorella came here?
- MJL

really, that is your defense. that is fn weak. wow won the barry ashbee trophy. no wonder they extended him.

Tippet's only problem is he doesn't have a good center to play with. I think playing with Michkov will help him quite a bit. Frost is doing poorly because he's NOT THAT GOOD! Same with Farabee. I told you about both these players, you didn't listen. You stick by them because they are Hextall draft picks, otherwise you would give them the same treatment as you are apparently giving Tippet now.
- jd250

I think Tippets has been a bit inconsistent and I think he’s a guy that’s kind of in his own head right now. I think both him and Foerster are a bit snake bitten… I see both guy’s figuring it out to be honest….they are still getting their chances. I still think Tippet will get on a heater and produce 25-27 goals this year. He just needs to stay with it and hit the (frank)in net.

The guy is in a slump, its that simple. You can't dismiss two years of almost 30 goals because he has had a poor start to this season. Tippet has the skills to get back on track and he will. Farabee on the other hand doesn't have the skill Tippet has, so what you see is what you get with him.
- jd250

Farabee has been a productive player for more seasons and longer than Tippett. Here is another situation and more of the same. The player you favor, is just in a slump and is proven and will get better. The player you don't favor, is just not any good and won't improve.

The guy is in a slump, its that simple. You can't dismiss two years of almost 30 goals because he has had a poor start to this season. Tippet has the skills to get back on track and he will. Farabee on the other hand doesn't have the skill Tippet has, so what you see is what you get with him.
- jd250

Farabee can still be a 50-60 point winger in this league….he’s the one guy that desperately needs a true # 1 type Center to play with….if he ends up in Ottawa, I could see him as a 60 point winger, because he’ll have that type of C to play with.

I think Tippets has been a bit inconsistent and I think he’s a guy that’s kind of in his own head right now. I think both him and Foerster are a bit snake bitten… I see both guy’s figuring it out to be honest….they are still getting their chances. I still think Tippet will get on a heater and produce 25-27 goals this year. He just needs to stay with it and hit the (frank)in net.
- landros 2

Yes 100% agree. Both have a chance to be snipers if they had good players to set them up more frequently. TK and Michkov are the best playmakers on the team right now.

Farabee can still be a 50-60 point winger in this league….he’s the one guy that desperately needs a true # 1 type Center to play with….if he ends up in Ottawa, I could see him as a 60 point winger, because he’ll have that type of C to play with.
- landros 2

But will his notices/60 go up? That is the real question.

Well, all I can say is open your eyes, because Risto is clearly playing the best defense on the team right now, and is generating offense, frequently joining the rush.
- jd250

If you think Risto is playing better than Sanheim you might need new glasses. Risto has played very well but Sanheim is playing way above Rosto's level. Don't forget the late season Risto injury is coming.

Farabee can still be a 50-60 point winger in this league….he’s the one guy that desperately needs a true # 1 type Center to play with….if he ends up in Ottawa, I could see him as a 60 point winger, because he’ll have that type of C to play with.
- landros 2

so you are thinking he is a 20G, 40A player? Maybe but he would have to be playing with two all star players IMO. I mean Farabee is a solid middle six forward that is smart and puts himself in the right spots. I guess if he played with some top talent he would collect a lot of rebound and tip in goals.

If you think Risto is playing better than Sanheim you might need new glasses. Risto has played very well but Sanheim is playing way above Rosto's level. Don't forget the late season Risto injury is coming.
- Flyfly

Sanheim is playing well, but from what I see Risto is the best on the team at killing plays and is really driving the puck up ice with his skating ability. He needs more touch on his break out passes, since often they are too hot for the forwards to handle, causing turnovers.

Farabee has been a productive player for more seasons and longer than Tippett. Here is another situation and more of the same. The player you favor, is just in a slump and is proven and will get better. The player you don't favor, is just not any good and won't improve.
- MJL

Its how Tippet scores compared to how Farabee scores. Tippet scores off the rush using his skating abilty and shot, that is when he gets it on net. Farabee can't score goals this way. Tell the last time Farabee scored a goal because he blew past 3 defenders and sniped a shot top shelf. You won't find any.

Sanheim is playing well, but from what I see Risto is the best on the team at killing plays and is really driving the puck up ice with his skating ability. He needs more touch on his break out passes, since often they are too hot for the forwards to handle, causing turnovers.
- jd250

You are probable the only person that thinks Risto is the best dman on the team. It is not even a debate at this point. Just b/c you keep telling yourself something does not make it right. (Jk)

This is too easy, just look at the coaches Risto had in the NHL before Torts. Where are they now? Ted Nolan, Dan Bylsma, Phil Housley, Ralph Krueger, AV and Yeo. Please already! Dan Bylsma just got a job with Seattle this year after being fired in Buffalo in 2016. Yeo is a career assistant coach.
- jd250

Major difference. In Buffalo Risto was their offensive d “go to guy” , they overlooked his deficiencies in his own end because they were starved for offence, then they drafted Dahlin….his offence became expendable and they didn’t see his defensive game as adequate enough to keep him. Fast forward to Philly and Torts…as Torts so eloquently put it the other day he was “brutal” in his own end when Torts got here….the focus has been for him to use his size and attributes and develop his game in his own end…yes the offence has dried up. But, he has been very reliable defensively and has bought in to the coaching. I still think he moves the puck very well on exits and the offence seems to be coming around despite his modest stats. What he is is a decent top 4 guy when you consider all the attributes. Good on him as well for taking to the critiques of his game….it’s very noticeable.

Sanheim is playing well, but from what I see Risto is the best on the team at killing plays and is really driving the puck up ice with his skating ability. He needs more touch on his break out passes, since often they are too hot for the forwards to handle, causing turnovers.
- jd250

There is no evidence to support those claims.

Its how Tippet scores compared to how Farabee scores. Tippet scores off the rush using his skating abilty and shot, that is when he gets it on net. Farabee can't score goals this way. Tell the last time Farabee scored a goal because he blew past 3 defenders and sniped a shot top shelf. You won't find any.
- jd250

Are you aware that the overwhelming majority of goals scored in the NHL are scored around the net and in the deep slot? Not by individual rushes and picking a corner. Obviously not.

Are you aware that the overwhelming majority of goals scored in the NHL are scored around the net and in the deep slot? Not by individual rushes and picking a corner. Obviously not.
- MJL

You could also argue the other side…when was the last time Tippets crashed the net for a dirty greasy goal? With his size he should be a fixture there. That’s the main reason I think Foerster will be a consistent 20-25 goal guy…it’s where he he gets his goals from. He ain’t pretty but his stats will always be decent.

You could also argue the other side…when was the last time Tippets crashed the net for a dirty greasy goal? With his size he should be a fixture there. That’s the main reason I think Foerster will be a consistent 20-25 goal guy…it’s where he he gets his goals from. He ain’t pretty but his stats will always be decent.
- landros 2

Tippet's last goal was scored from the dirty area, presented his stick at the side of the crease and Michkov hit him prefectly.

There is no evidence to support those claims.
- MJL

can you supply the evidence to dismiss his claims?

Tippet's last goal was scored from the dirty area, presented his stick at the side of the crease and Michkov hit him prefectly.
- jd250

On a 2 on 1…not exactly going to a tough area.

I was confused. I thought you were talking about TK. Lots of folks wanted to trade Sanheim at the time of that trade proposal though cause he really looked like he was nothing special and had the long term contract, but he has since upped his game dramatically. Just hope he doesn't fall apart like he did last season. Congrats to him for making the team, but I'd rather that he just take a break and chill out.
- Phillywhiteout

He certainly has answered the call since then

Major difference. In Buffalo Risto was their offensive d “go to guy” , they overlooked his deficiencies in his own end because they were starved for offence, then they drafted Dahlin….his offence became expendable and they didn’t see his defensive game as adequate enough to keep him. Fast forward to Philly and Torts…as Torts so eloquently put it the other day he was “brutal” in his own end when Torts got here….the focus has been for him to use his size and attributes and develop his game in his own end…yes the offence has dried up. But, he has been very reliable defensively and has bought in to the coaching. I still think he moves the puck very well on exits and the offence seems to be coming around despite his modest stats. What he is is a decent top 4 guy when you consider all the attributes. Good on him as well for taking to the critiques of his game….it’s very noticeable.
- landros 2

Well said!