Philly has to become a team players want to play for. The team needs to find something they can offer that other teams cant. Vegas and NY have fantastic cities that draw players. Philadelphia is nowhere near as nice, they obviously arent contenders either. Maybe the idea of playing with TK and Michkov might interest some players but outside that I dont see anything that says "I want to play here!"
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

They don't need to do that unless they plan to build through free agency. Which would be a disaster

Don't they all live in Jersey like flyers players do?
- WhiskeyMan

Who NY players? I am not 100% sure though I don't think.

I'm curious what OTT does. Rumors are they are dangling Norris. With his injury history and contract that is going to be a tough sell. Pinto or Greig seem like more viable trade candidates.
- Trox88

any move with the sens has to involve the stiff boucher and Greig.

I doubt the city itself matters much to players. Money, cache/popularity, friends/teammates, and winning are probably what matters most. These guys live in a bubble.
- Dkos

one would think winning is 1A or 1B for the elite level guys. as no matter where they go they will still get paid.

money in NY is not equal to money elsewhere. to me in 2024 the city def matters. though hockey players are not the smartest bunch.

one would think winning is 1A or 1B for the elite level guys. as no matter where they go they will still get paid.

money in NY is not equal to money elsewhere. to me in 2024 the city def matters. though hockey players are not the smartest bunch.
- login

You spend what you can afford for housing. You won’t get as big a place in Manhattan, for your money, as you would in Columbus, but it’s still going to be really nice.

This just in...Torts' system is NOT archaic. They play the up tempo heavy forecheck system that many current teams play. When the Flyers play their system right it works well! Examples this past week. They dominated a very good Vegas team for much of the game and deserved a better fate, and they curb stomped the Rags that were only kept in the game by their world class goalie. The Flyers could have put up double figures on Friday. The fact that some folks on here say that Torts' system is archaic is absolute hogwash. They would be a true Cup contender if they had the talent to play this system as it is being implemented. Thanks!

This just in...Torts' system is NOT archaic. They play the up tempo heavy forecheck system that many current teams play. When the Flyers play their system right it works well! Examples this past week. They dominated a very good Vegas team for much of the game and deserved a better fate, and they curb stomped the Rags that were only kept in the game by their world class goalie. The Flyers could have put up double figures on Friday. The fact that some folks on here say that Torts' system is archaic is absolute hogwash. They would be a true Cup contender if they had the talent to play this system as it is being implemented. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

wouldn't any team be a cup contender IF they had more talent. Or is that just the flyers?

When Ersson went down it seemed that the Flyguys had no goalies and now they seem to have three. I would probably pick Kolosov over Fedotov. That's not really a knock on Fedotov, but Kolosov just seems very athletic now that he is getting more comfortable. Doesn't matter anyway cause the Flyers should tank!
- Phillywhiteout

flyers save % ranks 26th in the league at .892. finished last year at .889. no real difference.

to early to say they have 3. Hope they have 1. Either way one will have to be moved after the season. Having all 3 again next year would not sit well with all 3 is my guess. Neither of them would accept an assignment to LHV at this time.

also seems that save % is down league wide with only 14 having a 90% or better.

wouldn't any team be a cup contender IF they had more talent. Or is that just the flyers?
- login

Of course, but the facts is that there are those on here that don't think Torts could win no matter what cause his system is archaic and that's simply isn't the case.

This just in...Torts' system is NOT archaic. They play the up tempo heavy forecheck system that many current teams play. When the Flyers play their system right it works well! Examples this past week. They dominated a very good Vegas team for much of the game and deserved a better fate, and they curb stomped the Rags that were only kept in the game by their world class goalie. The Flyers could have put up double figures on Friday. The fact that some folks on here say that Torts' system is archaic is absolute hogwash. They would be a true Cup contender if they had the talent to play this system as it is being implemented. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

But here is the issue. They don't have the talent to play the system without going balls out every single game. And when they have to go balls out, they end up wearing out, and fading towards the end of the season. This is why Torts hasn't won anything in 22 years. Its fools gold. Torts coaches this team like they are a win now team.

flyers save % ranks 26th in the league at .892. finished last year at .889. no real difference.

to early to say they have 3. Hope they have 1. Either way one will have to be moved after the season. Having all 3 again next year would not sit well with all 3 is my guess. Neither of them would accept an assignment to LHV at this time.

also seems that save % is down league wide with only 14 having a 90% or better.
- login

Both Fedotov and Kolosov have improved markedly since the beginning of the season. What has their save pct. been in the last 10 games? I'm guessing their save pct. at the beginning of the year was abysmal.

Of course, but the facts is that there are those on here that don't think Torts could win no matter what cause his system is archaic and that's simply isn't the case.
- Phillywhiteout

well he hasn't won in x amount of years. not having the talent is also partly on him.

I do not think he would win even if he had the talent.

what is his system? dump and go get it?

Re the 3 goalie situation and sending one to LHV: I think Fedotov would be unhappy, but he’d report. He’s not walking away from a deal paying 3.25 million per and I doubt anyone would claim him on waivers.

Both Fedotov and Kolosov have improved markedly since the beginning of the season. What has their save pct. been in the last 10 games? I'm guessing their save pct. at the beginning of the year was abysmal.
- Phillywhiteout

Fedotov has improved and if he didn't than that would be sad. he really had nowhere to go but up. Kolosov has been about what I expected.

talk to me in 4 months before anyone starts singing their praises.

keep in mind once team get more film they may be more prepared as well. goes both ways. also when you have 3 goalies that means you have none.

But here is the issue. They don't have the talent to play the system without going balls out every single game. And when they have to go balls out, they end up wearing out, and fading towards the end of the season. This is why Torts hasn't won anything in 22 years. Its fools gold. Torts coaches this team like they are a win now team.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm not even saying that he is the right coach for this team. I'm just saying that the system that he implements is NOT archaic. And yes, they can't play it every night. Just look at the Nashville game. I didn't see much of last night's game, but it sounds like they were tiring last night (although it was their 5th game in 8 nights).

Re the 3 goalie situation and sending one to LHV: I think Fedotov would be unhappy, but he’d report. He’s not walking away from a deal paying 3.25 million per and I doubt anyone would claim him on waivers.
- BiggE

that causes bad optics and may hinder their Russian relations. Who knows what was said to both in the background. All I am saying is it will cause issues as yes, he or kolosov will not be happy at all looking ahead to next season.

I think they role with 3 this year.

well he hasn't won in x amount of years. not having the talent is also partly on him.

I do not think he would win even if he had the talent.

what is his system? dump and go get it?
- login

Ideally, I think they want to send two guys in on the forecheck and keep the third forward up high. The weird part is that this team is actually better off the rush than they are in creating chances from their heavy forecheck. Of course, guys like Poehling are never gonna finish those chances.

I'm not even saying that he is the right coach for this team. I'm just saying that the system that he implements is NOT archaic. And yes, they can't play it every night. Just look at the Nashville game. I didn't see much of last night's game, but it sounds like they were tiring last night (although it was their 5th game in 8 nights).
- Phillywhiteout

so, what happens when torts is gone and another coach comes in then implements their system which may be a lot different?

does the rebuild clock reset with a new coach?

that causes bad optics and may hinder their Russian relations. Who knows what was said to both in the background. All I am saying is it will cause issues as yes, he or kolosov will not be happy at all looking ahead to next season.

I think they role with 3 this year.
- login

I just don't know if it's possible to keep 3 goalies. Unless they literally keep alternating even after Ersson comes back.

Fedotov has improved and if he didn't than that would be sad. he really had nowhere to go but up. Kolosov has been about what I expected.

talk to me in 4 months before anyone starts singing their praises.

keep in mind once team get more film they may be more prepared as well. goes both ways. also when you have 3 goalies that means you have none.
- login

Very small sample size, so yeah, not gonna get carried away with either, but they have held things together with Ersson out and I wasn't expecting that. The thing that impressed me about Kolosov last night was actually when he gave up the tying goal at the end. He really battled there and made two spectacular saves before the third chance ended up in the net.

I just don't know if it's possible to keep 3 goalies. Unless they literally keep alternating even after Ersson comes back.
- Phillywhiteout

Exactly. 3 goalies is never a good situation. The team isn’t contending anytime soon, so if a contender is looking for a low cost solid 1B guy, I’d happily deal Ersson and just roll with the Russians. They have 2 very good prospects in the goalie pipeline as well so they can absolutely afford to make that kind of deal.

so, what happens when torts is gone and another coach comes in then implements their system which may be a lot different?

does the rebuild clock reset with a new coach?
- login

Ha ha, there is no rebuild. I have a fear that Sully may be the next coach if he gets fired and his system probably doesn't differ that much from Torts' system. They would probably look for a coach that runs a similar system to Torts. I mean, look at the Caps. They are supposedly in a rebuild and they brought in a coach that has implemented a system that is working wonders for them. I'm not gonna pretend that I am a systems guru and in the course of games systems break down anyway, but that guy has the Caps at the top of the Metro currently and no one expected that.

I just don't know if it's possible to keep 3 goalies. Unless they literally keep alternating even after Ersson comes back.
- Phillywhiteout

don't know. It will become a bad situation no matter what they do unless one is traded imo. Can't imagine any have any real value.

don't know. It will become a bad situation no matter what they do unless one is traded imo. Can't imagine any have any real value.
- login

Goalies tend not to fetch much in the trade market anyway and the top notch proven goalies rarely get traded, so the return for any of these guys would be minimal like you said.

Exactly. 3 goalies is never a good situation. The team isn’t contending anytime soon, so if a contender is looking for a low cost solid 1B guy, I’d happily deal Ersson and just roll with the Russians. They have 2 very good prospects in the goalie pipeline as well so they can absolutely afford to make that kind of deal.
- BiggE

do the flyers know or believe this?

agree with trading the one who has the most value. though the flyers are not forward thinking and I bet this hasn't even entered their thought process just yet.

outside the avs and oilers. what other team may have interest in Sam?