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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 11 @ 10:08 AM ET
10000%. Let’s also add that after going 0-21 in the playoffs which was ultimately their demise they changed nothing. They are where they should be. The only shocking thing is the standing pat by ownership. They must really believe in Lou, I just don’t see the success on paper.
- kindlyrick


Successful and smart teams would not be trying to live off two ECF trips happening under very unique situations with different coaches and rosters. It's nice the team won two games in a row, but we have seen this before and the plays should not change.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 11 @ 10:17 AM ET
You cannot keep missing these opportunities. Are the owners really going to make enough money on two home playoff games to risk the future? It's time for intelligent decision making.
- ses111


Sadly I don’t think this ownership group is about actually winning. Making the playoffs appears to be the goal, not winning the cup. What started out as being Ledecky and Malkin, turned into 5 owners now, as they sold portions of the team (prob to pay back investors of the original 485 million purchase). I don’t believe they’re serious about winning….i think the real estate is the real game they’re looking to win.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 11 @ 10:26 AM ET
Sadly I don’t think this ownership group is about actually winning. Making the playoffs appears to be the goal, not winning the cup. What started out as being Ledecky and Malkin, turned into 5 owners now, as they sold portions of the team (prob to pay back investors of the original 485 million purchase). I don’t believe they’re serious about winning….i think the real estate is the real game they’re looking to win.
- kindlyrick


It's not looking good with these owners. Islanders cannot get owners that both have the money and the commitment to win. You need owners with an ego that want to be better than the Rangers and every other team.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 11 @ 10:33 AM ET
It's not looking good with these owners. Islanders cannot get owners that both have the money and the commitment to win.
- ses111


Without opening Pandora’s box, it was the Nassau county politicians who really screwed this team. What harm would that lighthouse project have done to that area??? That area was perfectly located for all long islanders to access and the walk to the arena wouldn’t be a mile long.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 11 @ 10:40 AM ET
Without opening Pandora’s box, it was the Nassau county politicians who really screwed this team. What harm would that lighthouse project have done to that area??? That area was perfectly located for all long islanders to access and the walk to the arena wouldn’t be a mile long.
- kindlyrick


no question LI politics did not help. but you cannot have owners being happy with a stale roster and mid team struggling to make the playoffs. Fans will show for a consistent winner and a team with a real chance. The fans have no idea which teams is showing up every night.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 11 @ 10:46 AM ET
no question LI politics did not help. but you cannot have owners being happy with a stale roster and mid team struggling to make the players. Fans will show for a consistent winner and a team with a real chance. The fans have no idea which teams is showing up every night.
- ses111


Yeah I mean I guess it comes down to what’s the magic number of making money. Maybe making the playoffs is the number to break even. No matter what success the isles have the isles will go up in value, much like purchasing a home. It’s going to appreciate over time. If Lou stands pat at the trade deadline I think we see the answer loud and clear.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 11 @ 11:06 AM ET
Yeah I mean I guess it comes down to what’s the magic number of making money. Maybe making the playoffs is the number to break even. No matter what success the isles have the isles will go up in value, much like purchasing a home. It’s going to appreciate over time. If Lou stands pat at the trade deadline I think we see the answer loud and clear.
- kindlyrick


I just think many fans are ready for a younger and more skilled team. Many will support the team if ownership is honest, and the team is headed in the right direction.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 11 @ 11:11 AM ET
I just think many fans are ready for a younger and more skilled team. Many will support the team if the team if ownership is honest and the team is headed in the right direction.
- ses111


I agree. It would be nice to hear something, anything from ownership….and NOT ledecky
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
I agree. It would be nice to hear something, anything from ownership….and NOT ledecky
- kindlyrick


After the team trades off players, ownership can say we went as far as we could with the current team, and we need to make moves to be competitive for the long term.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 11 @ 12:19 PM ET
After the team trades off players, ownership can say we went as far as we could with the current team, and we need to make moves to be competitive for the long term.
- ses111

If he writes off this year and takes the opportunity to grab some assets at the TDL it may not have to a complete tear down. It would take some luck of course hitting on a few prospects and a UFA or two. The team could maintain reasonable competitiveness while building up the farm. Some are harping on Nelson and Eiserman in the WJC. That’s great but if you think that constitutes a strong prospect pool you are in outer space. This team needs a strong prospect pool. We can potentially do that while adding some decent UFA’s with Palmieri and Nelson’s salary off the books. Committing to this roster and extending it would be moronic.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:24 PM ET
If he writes off this year and takes the opportunity to grab some assets at the TDL it may not have to tear it down. It would take some luck of course hitting on a few prospects and a UFA or two. The team could maintain reasonable competitiveness while building up the farm. Some are harping on Nelson and Eiserman in the WJC. That’s great but if you think that constitutes a strong prospect pool you are in outer space. This team needs a strong prospect pool. We can potentially do that while adding some decent UFA’s with Palmieri and Nelson’s salary off the books. Committing to this roster and extending it would be moronic.
- Cptmjl


I agree. Does not have to be a complete tear down. Nelson and Eiserman seem certainly promising, but they need a lot more prospects. Unless this team goes on a huge run and shows they are legit threats, Nelson and Palms need to go even if they are close to the playoffs.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 11 @ 12:26 PM ET
I agree. Does not have to be a complete tear down. Nelson and Eiserman seem certainly promising, but they need a lot more prospects. Unless this team goes on a huge run and shows they are legit threats, Nelson and Palms need to go even if they are close to the playoffs.
- ses111

Rather take risks that potentially promote future success while maintaining some semblance of competitiveness than just taking risks that are more then likely not going to work while handcuffing the teams future. He does this again he’s (frank)ing whoever takes over the team next. If he does it again I really hope it’s his son. When you think about it kind of makes sense that his son could take over a team with no ambition of winning just rebuilding from the ashes his father left him. Easy peasy run for his kid. No pressure on him.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:47 PM ET
Rather take risks that potentially promote future success while maintaining some semblance of competitiveness than just taking risks that are more then likely not going to work while handcuffing the teams future. He does this again he’s (frank)ing whoever takes over the team next. If he does it again I really hope it’s his son. When you think about it kind of makes sense that his son could take over a team with no ambition of winning just rebuilding from the ashes his father left him. Easy peasy run for his kid. No pressure on him.
- Cptmjl


Islanders need to start making room for some of these prospects and that means no more 7 years for everyone and they need to sign stopgap type players to 1 or two years while they draft more young talent. It will not shock me if Chris takes over even though this team needs someone totally on the outside.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 11 @ 1:33 PM ET
Without opening Pandora’s box, it was the Nassau county politicians who really screwed this team. What harm would that lighthouse project have done to that area??? That area was perfectly located for all long islanders to access and the walk to the arena wouldn’t be a mile long.
- kindlyrick


100%
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 11 @ 3:33 PM ET
Islanders need to start making room for some of these prospects and that means no more 7 years for everyone and they need to sign stopgap type players to 1 or two years while they draft more young talent. It will not shock me if Chris takes over even though this team needs someone totally on the outside.
- ses111

Lou passing the baton to his kid will be a face palm moment of astronomical proportions. Ownership will regret that one real quick. Fanbase would make them eat that decision. If they can’t wrap their head around that one then you have your answer if they are in outer space and don’t have their finger on the pulse of anything.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 11 @ 4:12 PM ET
sOrOkin out tonight he’s ill.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:34 PM ET
Lou passing the baton to his kid will be a face palm moment of astronomical proportions. Ownership will regret that one real quick. Fanbase would make them eat that decision. If they can’t wrap their head around that one then you have your answer if they are in outer space and don’t have their finger on the pulse of anything.
- Cptmjl


I just looked up Chris Lamoriello and after graduating providence college he’s been working under his dad for the Devils as a scout, to vice president of hockey operations, to managing the AHL affiliate. I would probably do the same if I could, but having a resume that’s ONLY working under your dad doesn’t bode well. I just cannot see the ownership getting rid of Lou to replace him with Chris “do you know who my father is” Lamoriello.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 11 @ 7:17 PM ET
I just looked up Chris Lamoriello and after graduating providence college he’s been working under his dad for the Devils as a scout, to vice president of hockey operations, to managing the AHL affiliate. I would probably do the same if I could, but having a resume that’s ONLY working under your dad doesn’t bode well. I just cannot see the ownership getting rid of Lou to replace him with Chris “do you know who my father is” Lamoriello.
- kindlyrick

A lot of people are expecting that to happen. I remember reading it somewhere but I’m not sure how much validity was attached to it. Hopefully it isn’t the case.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 11 @ 7:58 PM ET
A lot of people are expecting that to happen. I remember reading it somewhere but I’m not sure how much validity was attached to it. Hopefully it isn’t the case.
- Cptmjl


Let’s hope Chris is not Fredo if he gets the job.
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Jan 11 @ 9:52 PM ET
0 for 22 last PP's. I'm not a pro at managing a team like others on here, nor am I as optimistic, but I don't think that's good.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 12 @ 7:36 AM ET
0 for 22 last PP's. I'm not a pro at managing a team like others on here, nor am I as optimistic, but I don't think that's good.
- streaks

I am a pro at managing teams here on the internet and I can tell you it’s not.
-Internet GM
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 12 @ 9:04 AM ET
3 wins in a row.

kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 12 @ 10:20 AM ET
3 wins in a row.
- ses111


More wins means more likely to trade the first and a prospect to add to the impending first round exit.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 12 @ 10:28 AM ET
More wins means more likely to trade the first and a prospect to add to the impending first round exit.
- kindlyrick




I know this team had injuries, but still now they decide to play the right way?

From the start, Lou should have told the players if they wanted to keep this team together, they need to win on a consistent basis and there would be no coaching change.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 12 @ 10:39 AM ET
More wins means more likely to trade the first and a prospect to add to the impending first round exit.
- kindlyrick

The never know strategy is based in fact. The fact that it almost never works.
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