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aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 1 @ 10:33 PM ET
Then what is it …
- nyrangers9479


Sarcasm.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 1 @ 10:34 PM ET
That’s not a major injury. No surgery required. Missed 12 games last year. He’s missed 17 games over 5 years from injuries. That’s not bad at all.

Has the knee injury affected him? Don’t think it has tbis season. In the PO sure. This season he’s just regressed like everyone on the entire team

- nyrangers2

They have no choice so I get it, but he also plays too much

Idk I love Fox but I’m worried down the road. Getting a better partner is helpful tho. So many things about miller are killing this d corp, that’s the guy that’s needs to be with Fox but he’s not good enough for top pair
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 1 @ 10:37 PM ET
Sarcasm.
- aecliptic

The devils added two defenseman last year. Thats a rebuild? Lol that’s all I’m saying, retooling the defense like that. Get two guys and graduate the wingers from BC/Hartford would do this team wonders
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 1 @ 10:37 PM ET
They have no choice so I get it, but he also plays too much

Idk I love Fox but I’m worried down the road. Getting a better partner is helpful tho. So many things about miller are killing this d corp, that’s the guy that’s needs to be with Fox but he’s not good enough for top pair

- Slimtj100


They need an actual big shutdown dman for Fox. Miller too soft, low IQ to play with him. They should keep Fox and Schneider. Play Mancini on bottom pair next year. Find 3 new dmen for next season.

Center and defense had to be the focal point. Speed, quality skaters play a high motor game. Back end has to play physical. Such a soft defense right now
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 1 @ 10:44 PM ET
They need an actual big shutdown dman for Fox. Miller too soft, low IQ to play with him. They should keep Fox and Schneider. Play Mancini on bottom pair next year. Find 3 new dmen for next season.

Center and defense had to be the focal point. Speed, quality skaters play a high motor game. Back end has to play physical. Such a soft defense right now

- nyrangers2

Yes I agree


For arguments sake:

Provorov Fox
Xxxxx Schneider
Miller Borgen
Mancini

Seems doable.

Miller may have to take a one year deal like Kakko did and work up to top 4 status because he’s a big problem, the regression I mean. IMO the offers won’t be there for him like they weren’t for Kakko

They should probably move on from Housley and start there with the coaching staff
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 1 @ 10:58 PM ET
Yes I agree


For arguments sake:

Provorov Fox
Xxxxx Schneider
Miller Borgen
Mancini

Seems doable.

Miller may have to take a one year deal like Kakko did and work up to top 4 status because he’s a big problem, the regression I mean. IMO the offers won’t be there for him like they weren’t for Kakko

They should probably move on from Housley and start there with the coaching staff

- Slimtj100


This is what I said a couple days ago when people were talking about firing Lavy.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 1 @ 10:59 PM ET
This is what I said a couple days ago when people were talking about firing Lavy.
- aecliptic

Yea I’d get on board with that. I remember when they hired him they were saying he would get the best out of miller and the opposite has happen
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Thursday @ 1:22 AM ET
They need an actual big shutdown dman for Fox. Miller too soft, low IQ to play with him. They should keep Fox and Schneider. Play Mancini on bottom pair next year. Find 3 new dmen for next season.

Center and defense had to be the focal point. Speed, quality skaters play a high motor game. Back end has to play physical. Such a soft defense right now

- nyrangers2

I’ve been beating the soft defense drum for years now ……. I don’t know how they haven’t addressed it. And it can’t just be a physical defense either, has to be a BIG physical defense.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Thursday @ 9:15 AM ET
Is anyone able to post the content for non-subscribers?
- Tonybere



https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/3176558
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Thursday @ 9:29 AM ET
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/3176558
- boilermaker100


Thank you, sir.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Thursday @ 9:31 AM ET
Ok suppose for next summer they are free of money from- Trouba, Kreider (or a portion of it), Lindgren, Miller (I think he gets traded,
Jmo), potentially Zib (or a portion of it)…with that money for arguments sake you sign Provorov and Ekblad on defense…and get a center via trade or UFA. That’s a retool. Point is i don’t think they’re punting the next few seasons. This year yea it’s like a 70 yard punt. But they’ll have money next season to do a pretty big makeover. A rebuild is not signing anyone. They’re looking for new core pieces imo

- Slimtj100



I think with recent events and the fall of this team, the organization has a black eye on it and it will be harder to sign free agents. We are contenders anymore and after what just happened with Goodrow, Trouba and KK I think some players might be hesitant to come here. If you say they will come for the money then once again the organization went about it the wrong way and overpaid for a player who wanted more money.

I dont get your fascination on Provorov but Ekblad isnt going anywhere. You make it sound like getting a first line center will be easy. It isnt
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Thursday @ 9:51 AM ET
I think with recent events and the fall of this team, the organization has a black eye on it and it will be harder to sign free agents. We are contenders anymore and after what just happened with Goodrow, Trouba and KK I think some players might be hesitant to come here. If you say they will come for the money then once again the organization went about it the wrong way and overpaid for a player who wanted more money.

I dont get your fascination on Provorov but Ekblad isnt going anywhere. You make it sound like getting a first line center will be easy. It isnt

- Brukie

It kills me to say it, but the draw of playing in NYC will probably trump whatever damage has been done to the NYR reputation. I don't think they'll have a great deal of trouble continuing to attract big name players. Maybe the top ones push harder for full NMC's, but the interest will probably continue to be there.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Thursday @ 9:56 AM ET
I think with recent events and the fall of this team, the organization has a black eye on it and it will be harder to sign free agents. We are contenders anymore and after what just happened with Goodrow, Trouba and KK I think some players might be hesitant to come here. If you say they will come for the money then once again the organization went about it the wrong way and overpaid for a player who wanted more money.

I dont get your fascination on Provorov but Ekblad isnt going anywhere. You make it sound like getting a first line center will be easy. It isnt

- Brukie

Idk he plays 24 minutes a game and is left handed? Plays good defense. Barely misses any games. 27 years old

But nevermind, all dumb reasons
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Thursday @ 10:05 AM ET
Yes I agree


For arguments sake:

Provorov Fox
Xxxxx Schneider
Miller Borgen
Mancini

Seems doable.

Miller may have to take a one year deal like Kakko did and work up to top 4 status because he’s a big problem, the regression I mean. IMO the offers won’t be there for him like they weren’t for Kakko

They should probably move on from Housley and start there with the coaching staff

- Slimtj100


Don’t think miller borgen or Lindgren are here next year. All want raises that they aren’t worth
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Thursday @ 10:06 AM ET
It kills me to say it, but the draw of playing in NYC will probably trump whatever damage has been done to the NYR reputation. I don't think they'll have a great deal of trouble continuing to attract big name players. Maybe the top ones push harder for full NMC's, but the interest will probably continue to be there.
- eichiefs9

Signing Shesty helps in that regard too.
NYR11
New York Rangers
Joined: 07.24.2021

Thursday @ 10:38 AM ET
If anyone was effected by Optimum cutting MSG...call them and threaten to cancel.

They gave me a $150 credit for the month of January. Waiving my bill & then some until they (hopefully) come to an agreement
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Thursday @ 10:47 AM ET
Idk he plays 24 minutes a game and is left handed? Plays good defense. Barely misses any games. 27 years old

But nevermind, all dumb reasons

- Slimtj100


Because signing a 28yo free agent will work out for us.

Wash, Rinse, Repeat.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Thursday @ 10:51 AM ET
It kills me to say it, but the draw of playing in NYC will probably trump whatever damage has been done to the NYR reputation. I don't think they'll have a great deal of trouble continuing to attract big name players. Maybe the top ones push harder for full NMC's, but the interest will probably continue to be there.
- eichiefs9



We will see, this dumpster fire Drury has created im sure doesnt bode well for the organization until he is removed. This team isnt close to being a contender now.

The Rangers problem is the fascination with big name free agents.

When Glen Sather said years ago that he could win a 100 Cups if he had the Rangers deep pockets, it was funny since he hasnt won one since he got here.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Thursday @ 10:52 AM ET
If anyone was effected by Optimum cutting MSG...call them and threaten to cancel.

They gave me a $150 credit for the month of January. Waiving my bill & then some until they (hopefully) come to an agreement

- NYR11



Thanks, I was going to call them to see what can be done. Im not paying 80 bucks more to Fubo when I have Netflix, Prime and Max already.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Thursday @ 10:54 AM ET
Because signing a 28yo free agent will work out for us.

Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

- Brukie

You must be loving this being this bad all in your glory 🤦
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Thursday @ 11:07 AM ET
At least they picked a good time to not be on my tv so I can watch Jersey Shore reruns and Jwowws tatas
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Thursday @ 11:09 AM ET
Signing Shesty helps in that regard too.
- Slimtj100

Definitely doesn't hurt, but I think the Rangers are pretty much never going to have issues attracting free agents regardless.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Thursday @ 11:27 AM ET
You must be loving this being this bad all in your glory 🤦
- Slimtj100



No, I dont love losing. I never have. What I hate the most is doing things ass backwards, which is what the Rangers always do. When you build something, you start from the ground up, there is no other way.

Sending out the letter, then signing Trouba showed me the Rangers were going to rush this instead of rebuilding it, they just retooled. Signing Mika to a buyout proof contract was just dumb, he had never won anything. Signing Panarin, who is great during the season but just cant get it done in the Playoffs was another mistake. Drury had called him out 2 years ago.

You know I said this team was soft years ago and I didnt think they could win but the team was good and they should have had another shot at it with Goodrow and Trouba. This season should have been the last with this core. Then next year, you blow it up.

This is all on Drury, his heavy handed management style sucks and has backfired.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Thursday @ 11:32 AM ET
No, I dont love losing. I never have. What I hate the most is doing things ass backwards, which is what the Rangers always do. When you build something, you start from the ground up, there is no other way.

Sending out the letter, then signing Trouba showed me the Rangers were going to rush this instead of rebuilding it, they just retooled. Signing Mika to a buyout proof contract was just dumb, he had never won anything. Signing Panarin, who is great during the season but just cant get it done in the Playoffs was another mistake. Drury had called him out 2 years ago.

You know I said this team was soft years ago and I didnt think they could win but the team was good and they should have had another shot at it with Goodrow and Trouba. This season should have been the last with this core. Then next year, you blow it up.

This is all on Drury, his heavy handed management style sucks and has backfired.

- Brukie

He’s literally doing what you would do. You go on and on and on about this core and how bad it is and how it can’t win blah blah blah

All I’d say is wait til all the dust settles with this roster and judge it next season. And if Drury (frank)ed it up or not. Patience. This isn’t even his core for the most part, he inherited most of these guys. If you wanna get on him for one thing lockerrom wise it’s probably giving Trouba the captaincy. That may have backfired this year and they should probably name Trocheck captain, or someone. Not having a captain is probably a bad idea
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Thursday @ 11:57 AM ET
He’s literally doing what you would do. You go on and on and on about this core and how bad it is and how it can’t win blah blah blah

All I’d say is wait til all the dust settles with this roster and judge it next season. And if Drury (frank)ed it up or not. Patience. This isn’t even his core for the most part, he inherited most of these guys. If you wanna get on him for one thing lockerrom wise it’s probably giving Trouba the captaincy. That may have backfired this year and they should probably name Trocheck captain, or someone. Not having a captain is probably a bad idea

- Slimtj100

I think the issue a lot of people have is that this is the last year with Igor and Laf at their current contracts before they get their raises and was an opportunity to compete again.

Drury did what he did with Goodrow and while some people may not have loved it at least it was an offseason move. If he was hellbent on getting rid of Trouba, which I think a lot of people were on board with too, he should have made that happen in the offseason. I know he tried and it was blocked, but he should have pulled the waiver card then rather than wait until 20 games into the year.

Since then, we've gone into a tailspin and have completely sacrificed this season. Drury may have a plan going forward, but IMO it is fair to criticize how he's done this so far. Other teams that shake up their core like Florida recently did do so during the offseason and don't give up an entire season to see how things shake out.
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